Mortal Kombat 11 General Discussion Media Thread

That Sub-Zero thing? 8 generations is a pretty good guess, but that actually goes back 5 generations, according to the now defunct MK Mythologies website. Good thing that site is still accessible via web.archive.org, or it would obviously be lost to the sands of time. Of course, I used to remember this by heart, because before Bi-Han and Kuai Liang's names were revealed (and for that matter before Noob Saibot's identity was revealed), I was calling them Sub-Zero V and Sub-Zero VI respectively.

EDIT: Good thing I have a copy of the PS1 version of Mythologies, since I bought a used copy of it at a retro gaming store a few years ago, and it turns out the same text that stated that Bi-Han and Kuai Liang's father was a 4th generation Lin Kuei is in the manual as well (certain details on the website are missing from the manual though, possibly due to space constraints).

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(god of fire pic) - In a DLC we need Kōjin and Suijin



since a famous person with the Cage (fake) surname is Nicholas Cage -, but could also be anybody from South Europe or Northern Africa, a Japanese Shirai Ryu, that Chinese Lin Kuei, and returning Immortals/Long life span characters.

Actually this sounds extremely enjoyable.

Johnny also has a fake surname.
 
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New leak for DLC

https://twitter.com/msxexehq/status/1269388825798807559

It seems more believable than most leaks. I don't think 11's going to have any more guests, other than possibly Ash if he's still in the pipeline after this. I can't see them going past 4 or 5 guests at max because having 8 guest fighters in total is way too much even for NRS. I also don't see anyone from the base roster from MKX being DLC because NRS seems to be focusing on characters that have not been in a game in a while. Havik, and Lei Mei seems more believable as DLC than Quan Chi and Takeda coming back.

Seems to be based on this older leak.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeak...29384e00de&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=frmmgk
 
New leak for DLC

https://twitter.com/msxexehq/status/1269388825798807559

It seems more believable than most leaks. I don't think 11's going to have any more guests, other than possibly Ash if he's still in the pipeline after this. I can't see them going past 4 or 5 guests at max because having 8 guest fighters in total is way too much even for NRS. I also don't see anyone from the base roster from MKX being DLC because NRS seems to be focusing on characters that have not been in a game in a while. Havik, and Lei Mei seems more believable as DLC than Quan Chi and Takeda coming back.

Havik and Takeda seem to be the most likely out of those 4 (imo, according to people being vocal about those 2 on the MK reddit as of more recently), but either way, I also don't think they'll do another 4 guests.

As it is, people are also wanting the 7 of the 8 missing Trilogy characters along with Havik and Takeda.
Mileena, Reptile, Ermac, Smoke, Rain, Cyrax and Sektor are the characters that people seem to want in most, and more recently requests for Stryker have shown up on reddit.

- Mileena has had 0 chance of being in ever since Kitana got a variation similar to the MKX Jade Mournful variation and also has her sai (no matter if her stans are willing to accept that or not) and I think that Kitana's Friendship was the final nail in that coffin for MK11.
- Reptile could make it in if they gave him his MK4 Krawl move which replaced his slide.
- Ermac I personally don't think will be in this one as DLC, despite arguments being made for his costume redesign.
- Smoke is one where it could go either way, because his cybernetic counterpart was in MKX, but his human form hasn't been playable since MK9. (Personally, it would feel like a real kick in the balls for me if human Smoke was DLC, because that was [MENTION=3788]squirrelpion[/MENTION]'s main in MK9. :()
- As for Rain, I highly doubt that NRS will have him sold twice as DLC, but who knows.
- Cyrax and Sektor have been argued to have Brutality and Gear slots in MK11, despite the fact that their movesets are copy-paste from MKX Triborg, Robocop having throwback MK3 skins for them, and lastly Robocop also having Sektor's Flamethrower and bomb projectiles (similar to Cyrax).

Quan Chi is 1 of the more popular post-MK3 / 3D era characters, so him also being DLC wouldn't surprise me, especially since he's now also responsible for Sindel's death.... because, y'know, he's not already responsible for a ton of other shit in the MK lore. /s

As far as story, yeah, I also don't think there will be more story as Boon even said that Aftermath's story was the epilogue / final conclusion to MK11's story.
We'll see what happens from now until the Game Awards, I guess, but yes, I also think a release window for April 2021 for Injustice 3 is about right, and that's part of the other reason that I didn't think there would be more story stuff after Aftermath.
It seems like Aftermath stuff was done possibly prior to the game being released and taken out to be DLC later on, especially given how it perfectly ties the loose ends left from MK11's story mode regarding Shao Kahn, Sindel, Shang Tsung and the original ending for MK11.
It's a better way for them to end it (imo), without having to have it be another MK9 / MK1 all over again for the next game.
 
New leak for DLC

https://twitter.com/msxexehq/status/1269388825798807559

It seems more believable than most leaks. I don't think 11's going to have any more guests, other than possibly Ash if he's still in the pipeline after this. I can't see them going past 4 or 5 guests at max because having 8 guest fighters in total is way too much even for NRS. I also don't see anyone from the base roster from MKX being DLC because NRS seems to be focusing on characters that have not been in a game in a while. Havik, and Lei Mei seems more believable as DLC than Quan Chi and Takeda coming back.

As is the case with all these supposed "leaks", I'll believe it when I see it.

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So, does this mean that NRS considers Aftermath to be KP2, then?
Why skip forward to KP3 and not mention KP2?

As for Mileena, I seriously doubt it, and it sounds like nothing more than another Mileena stan's wishful thinking.

As for 1 of the MK characters being an unfortunate bystander, is that supposed to mean dead Krypt characters like Goro, Ermac and Kenshi?
 
Really wish they added people like Shujinko, Ermac, Ashrah to a side storyline happening in the two years between MKX and MK11 during Dark Raiden's term. Maybe even Mileena, because it could focus on Shang Tsung's resurrection or his island, because it's very unusual the way everybody died there, and his comment about them was...suspicious.

Besides, MKX Cassie ending she kills Shujinko (under Dark Raiden's order) mistaken by Shang Tsung, and the latter absorbed Ermac's souls to return, something teased in the game intros (let's remember Aftermath was teased more than once in the intros a year back). Since Shujinko had small relations with Ashrah and Ermac, he could tie them.

Would love Onaga, but he could make a cameo as Damashi and eventually get his plans spoiled by Cassie. Besides, intros also teased Damashi was deceiving Kung Lao, whose revenant could be important too.
 
Really wish they added people like Shujinko, Ermac, Ashrah to a side storyline happening in the two years between MKX and MK11 during Dark Raiden's term. Maybe even Mileena, because it could focus on Shang Tsung's resurrection or his island, because it's very unusual the way everybody died there, and his comment about them was...suspicious.

Yeah, I also always thought that it was weird as hell how the monks died and Goro died.
Sheeva's intro lines with Jade and Kotal clear things up at least a little bit more in regards to Goro dying at the hands of Kotal.
Maybe after Goro meets up with Daegon in the comics?
That said, Dominic Cianciolo who helped write the MK11 story said that MK11 Shang Tsung is from MK9, between the first and second Tournaments.

https://mobile.twitter.com/domcianciolo/status/1266342734241107969

So, if that's the case, then what the hell was Jacqui's comment about the island dying when Shang Tsung died, if he was actually alive all along and just trapped in the void?
Something doesn't fcking add up / make sense there.
AGAIN, this is why I hate time travel stories when people don't do shit right, because then you end up with all of these plot-holes and things that don't connect.

EDIT -
Jacqui's direct quote from MK11's main story mode: "Guess after Shang Tsung died, this place did, too."
According to Dominic Cianciolo Shang Tsung didn't die, though, because he didn't die in MK9 until AFTER Liu Kang defeats Shao Kahn.
So, Shang Tsung is taken before that and couldn't have been dead during the events of MK11, just locked away in the void by Kronika.
 
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Yeah, I also always thought that it was weird as hell how the monks died and Goro died.
Sheeva's intro lines with Jade and Kotal clear things up at least a little bit more in regards to Goro dying at the hands of Kotal.
Maybe after Goro meets up with Daegon in the comics?
That said, Dominic Cianciolo who helped write the MK11 story said that MK11 Shang Tsung is from MK9, between the first and second Tournaments.

https://mobile.twitter.com/domcianciolo/status/1266342734241107969

So, if that's the case, then what the hell was Jacqui's comment about the island dying when Shang Tsung died, if he was actually alive all along and just trapped in the void?
Something doesn't fcking add up / make sense there.
AGAIN, this is why I hate time travel stories when people don't do shit right, because then you end up with all of these plot-holes and things that don't connect.

EDIT -
Jacqui's direct quote from MK11's main story mode: "Guess after Shang Tsung died, this place did, too."
According to Dominic Cianciolo Shang Tsung didn't die, though, because he didn't die in MK9 until AFTER Liu Kang defeats Shao Kahn.
So, Shang Tsung is taken before that and couldn't have been dead during the events of MK11, just locked away in the void by Kronika.

Why are you trying to make sense out of this pile of vomit? By the next game none of this will matter anyway.

And now...for the Ultimate Mortal Kukold:


:lol:
 
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Why are you trying to make sense out of this pile of vomit? By the next game none of this will matter anyway.

Because, unfortunately, I DO like to keep up with the lore.
And while it may or may not matter in the next game, I tend to follow stories of the franchises that I like the most.
This is the reason that I also had issues with Dishonored 2 and Death Of The Outsider both retconning / fcking up the redemption arc for 1 of the more interesting characters in the entire series (imo): Daud.

It's not just MK.
Lore for me matters for the games that I get into.
While I can excuse Sindel, Fujin, Sheeva, Shang Tsung and Nightwolf because of "Lol, DLC," when it comes to the main story arc it matters more, to me.
Yeah, I like Aftermath, but it felt pretty stupid (imo) for them to
Spoiler:
bring Sindel back only for her to die a few chapters later at the hands of the same person who brought her back to life.
Also, for all of the "Sindel is her own independent woman" stuff that they were trying to force down everyone's throats, she also somehow needs to have a strong man by her side like Shao Kahn who asserts "his privilege." <-Actual words from Aftermath. M'kay.
It was nice to see Shang Tsung not being Shao Kahn's puppet or Quan Chi's side-kick, for once, but that was also short-lived, because the likely ending for MK12 (or whatever the hell it's going to be called) will probably be Liu Kang's ending.


I love MK, but the lore inconsistency is just something that's bothered me ever since MK9.
 
Because, unfortunately, I DO like to keep up with the lore.
And while it may or may not matter in the next game, I tend to follow stories of the franchises that I like the most.
This is the reason that I also had issues with Dishonored 2 and Death Of The Outsider both retconning / fcking up the redemption arc for 1 of the more interesting characters in the entire series (imo): Daud.

It's not just MK.
Lore for me matters for the games that I get into.
While I can excuse Sindel, Fujin, Sheeva, Shang Tsung and Nightwolf because of "Lol, DLC," when it comes to the main story arc it matters more, to me.
Yeah, I like Aftermath, but it felt pretty stupid (imo) for them to
Spoiler:
bring Sindel back only for her to die a few chapters later at the hands of the same person who brought her back to life.
Also, for all of the "Sindel is her own independent woman" stuff that they were trying to force down everyone's throats, she also somehow needs to have a strong man by her side like Shao Kahn who asserts "his privilege." <-Actual words from Aftermath. M'kay.
It was nice to see Shang Tsung not being Shao Kahn's puppet or Quan Chi's side-kick, for once, but that was also short-lived, because the likely ending for MK12 (or whatever the hell it's going to be called) will probably be Liu Kang's ending.


I love MK, but the lore inconsistency is just something that's bothered me ever since MK9.

I know, I know. It's just with NRS track record, isn't it pointless to follow the lore now? Just think about it. 3 games over the span of 9 years. Nothing is consistent, plotlines get introduced only to get Shift+Del'd in the next game instantly. Characters get changed completely on a whim. They bring out a comic book which you know by now how it turned out. I mean, how many red flags do you need? Cherry on top, Kittlesen the one who's responsible for this garbage isn't even working on MK anymore.
 
Yeah, I also always thought that it was weird as hell how the monks died and Goro died.
Sheeva's intro lines with Jade and Kotal clear things up at least a little bit more in regards to Goro dying at the hands of Kotal.
Maybe after Goro meets up with Daegon in the comics?
That said, Dominic Cianciolo who helped write the MK11 story said that MK11 Shang Tsung is from MK9, between the first and second Tournaments.

https://mobile.twitter.com/domcianciolo/status/1266342734241107969

So, if that's the case, then what the hell was Jacqui's comment about the island dying when Shang Tsung died, if he was actually alive all along and just trapped in the void?
Something doesn't fcking add up / make sense there.
AGAIN, this is why I hate time travel stories when people don't do shit right, because then you end up with all of these plot-holes and things that don't connect.

EDIT -
Jacqui's direct quote from MK11's main story mode: "Guess after Shang Tsung died, this place did, too."
According to Dominic Cianciolo Shang Tsung didn't die, though, because he didn't die in MK9 until AFTER Liu Kang defeats Shao Kahn.
So, Shang Tsung is taken before that and couldn't have been dead during the events of MK11, just locked away in the void by Kronika.

But wait, it does make sense. Shang Tsung indeed died by Shao Kahn's hands in MK9, that's what Jacqui was referring to. He was at the least absent from his island.

Now, MK11 Shang Tsung is from before this event, and he is the one who has been trapped in the void when the time merger started.

And that's exactly what Dominic said, MK11 Tsung is the one prior his rejuvenation during MKII/MK9. But in the present, he was killed by Shao Kahn.

I still think by the looks of the monks and Goro they are too similar to Shang Tsung's victims. If he had absorbed Ermac and those people, there would be a younger Shang Tsung too. So apparently those people simply...died.
 
Came here to say this. I hope EA, this disgusting group, doesn't buy.

Seriously, MK under EA would be money for everything, and we all know how they handle gaming quality.
 
I hope they just end it with 11. But now that I think about it...seeing as they just can't get the story right with recent MK games, whoever gets it can hopefully just make it 100% games as a service adding characters, stages, modes, -alities, ect. Atleast we could get some nice gameplay with it at the very least and possibly get everyone including new/side characters in the game. Outside of that, I just hope they reconsider or find another solution.
 
Those who thought that MK was ruined because of WB will bite their tongues if EA/Activision buy them. Holy shit.

Worst news I've ever woken up to.
 
As if WB is any different than the Unholy Trinity over there. This game is proof in the pudding, and you're acting as if when EA comes, it's going to be doom and gloom. Annual MK (one man's trash is another man's treasure Tarkatan_Trash), always online with lootbox microtransactions, one half of the game being behind a paywall with another half being sold as DLC.

That's not too different from MK11, and you're still going to be buying it anyways. The fact that EA has been voted twice as "the worst company in America" and still is doing just fine... Proof is in the pudding :lol:
 
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