Is Ed Boon sure he's doing the right thing?

[londonhellgate]

Over half of this makes absolutely no sense. You just stated that you suck Boon's balls. Lolz. And it is you who's been losing all the arguments since the very beginning. Here's a tip: Speak English or don't speak it AT ALL.

Over half of this makes absolutely no sense. You just stated that you suck Boon's balls. Lolz. And it is you who's been losing all the arguments since the very beginning. Here's a tip: Speak English or don't speak it AT ALL.

And i was more impresed by Tobias-Pesina so i have prolly praised more them
than Boon, sorry, but never i was sucked balls to ed, cause again boon had a lower profile at first years

No.
I'm not saying not to have your opinions on it.
It's just that ALL that you say on MK X is ONLY bashing it, with no evidence to back any of it up.
You're just bashing just to bash.

Don't remember the 1992 / 1993 era?
I was probably playing MK1 in the arcade, before you were a speck in your daddy's eye.
The difference is that I can see things with an open mind, and I don't just blindly bash a game that I haven't even played yet, as you do.
You keep implying that MK X is bad without playing it.
Makes NO sense at all.

Sorry but i have started play mk1 at 1992, so i have never been a speck in my daddy ´eye.
Open mind? ok have you a open mind for watch is a ruined mk franchise and then acept this without more? No, clearly you support the ed boon ´s style and probably you support this ideology that means troll to mk is good.
Sorry is not right troll to mk.
I have readed before this kind arguments like "you should not do or you can not do ,negative crictics in anything if you did not played a videogame" and this happened with mk9 in 2011 and it is was my conclusion since the start,mk9 is shit.
Same will be happen with mk10 without care how many copies shall WB to buy, how many money that nrs shall get and how many technology have in the hand. include less how many naked girls it shall have.

Again is called this topic "lulz for boon"? cause this have no sense if you have an open mind.

 

[londonhellgate]

Forgot that, I didn't read the "mk2 rip torso fatality"... Sorry.

It ´s all right.

But too is true that since mk2, the lazzy attitude for not to make antigeneric stuff ,started here.
You can can see that certain finishers were the same sprites from basic moves at certain character, and this prolly one of first examples in that generic stuff makes bad to mk franchise.
But as you can see at mk3 this was 100000% exagerated and was 10000% worse in comparision with mk2.

 

[Katalina Caine]

It ´s all right.

But too is true that since mk2, the lazzy attitude for not to make antigeneric stuff ,started here.
You can can see that certain finishers were the same sprites from basic moves at certain character, and this prolly one of first examples in that generic stuff makes bad to mk franchise.
But as you can see at mk3 this was 100000% exagerated and was 10000% worse in comparision with mk2.

In other hand, use same sprite for two or more moves is perfectly normal in this period. They didn't have the capacity of a blu-ray, lol.

 

[Gabriel Ramirez]

If Mortal Kombat X had been released in the mid 90's, we'd have soiled our trousers, right there.

Really, think about it. We're here, trying to figure out if games that fit in a USB drive are inherently better than games made 2 decades over. We're being silly.

What we should be asking ourselves is "Is Mortal Kombat X an enjoyable experience?" "Would I play this if it had nothing to do with a franchise I am emotionally invested in?" "Are the controls smooth and the graphics reasonably well done?" "Is Batman Forever for Sega Genesis better than Batman Arkham Asylum?"

Because it can't be better in every way and also not be better overall.

 

[londonhellgate]

In other hand, use same sprite for two or more moves is perfectly normal in this period. They didn't have the capacity of a blu-ray, lol.

its the lie that midway team and boon had spread in everywhere. Is not true, in really the arcade memory had a limit, but ed boon has managed very bad the resources that is different. You can see that in arcade memory there is alot uselless things loaded and there is too unused resources, include hector sanchez has said that arcade memory was lazzy, lol not true. Also mk2 is more powerfull engimne in comparision with mk1, and reptile is the proof at mk2.

 

[Katalina Caine]

its the lie that midway team and boon had spread in everywhere. Is not true, in really the arcade memory had a limit, but ed boon has managed very bad the resources that is different. You can see that in arcade memory there is alot uselless things loaded and there is too unused resources, include hector sanchez has said that arcade memory was lazzy, lol not true. Also mk2 is more powerfull engimne in comparision with mk1, and reptile is the proof at mk2.

In this period, many developers thank of future adaptations for console when they created an arcade game. The arcade version was certainly not limited but the snes, for example, certainly was.

 

[londonhellgate]

In this period, many developers thank of future adaptations for console when they created an arcade game. The arcade version was certainly not limited but the snes, for example, certainly was.

the Consoles a is a different history, they are so weaks. You can check many documents that the ppl from mksecrets.net has did about ´that.
Include mk4 revision 3 is more powefull than mk4 from psx or sega dreamcast.

I am not agree, maybe i am wrong, but first was appeared the arcade system, if the first arcade version was a mini console maybe is other history. But the consoles that we know are like from the 8 bits 16 bits, 32 bits and maybe 64 bits era.

The fact here is the arcade games, that suddenly rightnow arcade games are more advanced than consoles in 1992/1996 era, in all kind of sense.

 

[londonhellgate]

If Mortal Kombat X had been released in the mid 90's, we'd have soiled our trousers, right there.

Really, think about it. We're here, trying to figure out if games that fit in a USB drive are inherently better than games made 2 decades over. We're being silly.

What we should be asking ourselves is "Is Mortal Kombat X an enjoyable experience?" "Would I play this if it had nothing to do with a franchise I am emotionally invested in?" "Are the controls smooth and the graphics reasonably well done?" "Is Batman Forever for Sega Genesis better than Batman Arkham Asylum?"

Because it can't be better in every way and also not be better overall.

Imo you are seeing all with the power of technology capicity and the problem happen for other side.

 

[Bruzzrad]

I don't even know what to say anymore. Why do we keep having these people, who despise MKX and MK9, showing up just to say how much they hate them? It defeats the purpose of being a fan of said game. Mr. londonhellgate won't stop complaining that MKX isn't MK2. That spader guy thought he knew what should be done with the games. Jeez, just chill the heck out. If you are not excited about MKX as the rest of us, I really see no point for you to come on here. One guy rants about which 2 decade old game needs to be remade and another thinks he is the master of creativity for MK. I want to talk about MKX and what its bringing to the table with the new kharacters and fatalities. Not try to reason with stubbornness.

 

[ujustgotcaged]

If I knew how to give that a thumbs up I would ^

 

[Dabluprint4]

I don't even know what to say anymore. Why do we keep having these people, who despise MKX and MK9, showing up just to say how much they hate them? It defeats the purpose of being a fan of said game. Mr. londonhellgate won't stop complaining that MKX isn't MK2. That spader guy thought he knew what should be done with the games. Jeez, just chill the heck out. If you are not excited about MKX as the rest of us, I really see no point for you to come on here. One guy rants about which 2 decade old game needs to be remade and another thinks he is the master of creativity for MK. I want to talk about MKX and what its bringing to the table with the new kharacters and fatalities. Not try to reason with stubbornness.

THANK YOU! It's discouraging to people who are actually interested in the game. They should just go elsewhere...

 

[Commander]

If I knew how to give that a thumbs up I would ^

You have to have 100 posts before you can give "Thanks."

 

[londonhellgate]

I don't even know what to say anymore. Why do we keep having these people, who despise MKX and MK9, showing up just to say how much they hate them? It defeats the purpose of being a fan of said game. Mr. londonhellgate won't stop complaining that MKX isn't MK2. That spader guy thought he knew what should be done with the games. Jeez, just chill the heck out. If you are not excited about MKX as the rest of us, I really see no point for you to come on here. One guy rants about which 2 decade old game needs to be remade and another thinks he is the master of creativity for MK. I want to talk about MKX and what its bringing to the table with the new kharacters and fatalities. Not try to reason with stubbornness.

Here we are discusing if ed boon is doing right or not the things, everyone have the rigth for say that whats think, I am not talking in every topic saying mk9 is shit.
You give to me the impresion that if you were administrator, prolly would you erase my posts cause those did not likes to you, honestly this not sound very fair from you.

And seem that several users here does not want read about this or receive bad fair crictics.it seem that Makes look that for you have a bad publicity here , sorry here this not a cloud.

I can say more reasons for show that since mkd until mk9/10 is shit, and my reason are realistic specially if you took time for check those, beyond if i am a hater or not:

-Jhon Tobias influence is oriental/chinese atmosphere, after him left every MK game has less of this, while Tao Feng is composed ONLY from this
-since MKDA. MKD and MKAR as second generation games, have unproportionated 3d models, mk9 by luck has reduced this problem.
-MKX even interface seems less oriental and more Assassins Creed style (lifebars etc)
-new MK games have oversaturated overcomplicated costumes, MK2/MK3 had much more simple yet regal and brutal Shao Kahn costume, while MK9 has Shao Kahn in apron and with what looks like "hair" decorating his helmet. Also Shao Kahn's and Baraka's eyes obscured by darkness felt much more frightening than glowing eyes they have now.
-How can anyone say MK9 story is good when it created a ton of plotholes, uncalled retcons, very foundations/rules of universe changed and making less sense (Shao Kahn couldn't conquer Earthrealm because Sindel stopping him and not the Elder Gods or MK Tournament, and then in the end of storymode Sindel proving herself to be more powerful than the Elder Gods and taking out half of the cast, Quan Chi wearing the amulet in broad daylight and no one giving a , infant mind Mileena, etc etc etc)?.
MK9 story is only good when you compare it to unfinished cluster that was MKA story (unfinished biographices, dumb endings, Taven that just woke up yet was able to whoop ass of whole roster of Kombatants as no big deal. That must be that their special Vogeledenian power shared with Sindel)
-MK9 managed to have some of the most uninspired designs, and managed to have worse alternative costumes for characters compared to MKA.

Sorry dudes several users Imo they stop at nothing to imagine that boonMK is good

 

[Bruzzrad]

Here we are discusing if ed boon is doing right or not the things, everyone have the rigth for say that whats think, I am not talking in every topic saying mk9 is shit.
You give to me the impresion that if you were administrator, prolly would you erase my posts cause those did not likes to you, honestly this not sound very fair from you.

And seem that several users here does not want read about this or receive bad fair crictics.it seem that Makes look that for you have a bad publicity here , sorry here thiis not a cloud.

I can say more reasons for show that since mkd until mk9/10 is shit, and my reason are realistic specially if you took time for check those, beyond if i am a hater or not:

-Jhon Tobias influence is oriental/chinese atmosphere, after him left every MK game has less of this, while Tao Feng is composed ONLY from this
-since MKDA. MKD and MKAR as second generation games, have unproportionated 3d models, mk9 by luck has reduced this problem.
-MKX even interface seems less oriental and more Assassins Creed style (lifebars etc)
-new MK games have oversaturated overcomplicated costumes, MK2/MK3 had much more simple yet regal and brutal Shao Kahn costume, while MK9 has Shao Kahn in apron and with what looks like "hair" decorating his helmet. Also Shao Kahn's and Baraka's eyes obscured by darkness felt much more frightening than glowing eyes they have now.
-How can anyone say MK9 story is good when it created a ton of plotholes, uncalled retcons, very foundations/rules of universe changed and making less sense (Shao Kahn couldn't conquer Earthrealm because Sindel stopping him and not the Elder Gods or MK Tournament, and then in the end of storymode Sindel proving herself to be more powerful than the Elder Gods and taking out half of the cast, Quan Chi wearing the amulet in broad daylight and no one giving a , infant mind Mileena, etc etc etc). MK9 story is only good when you compare it to unfinished cluster that was MKA story (unfinished biographices, dumb endings, Taven that
just woke up yet was able to whoop ass of whole roster of Kombatants as no big deal. That must be that their special Vogeledenian power shared with Sindel)
-MK9 managed to have some of the most uninspired designs, and managed to have worse alternative costumes for characters compared to MKA

The costumes, are you REALLY complaining about the costumes? And the health bars too? Dude, they even gave us a klassic set of costumes to use in MK9. I'm not going to argue with you over opinions but I am going to knock down that bs you just threw at me.

You are complaining about the lifebars? They didn't look that good in MK2.

The costumes were simple back then, but thats all they were. Just color swaps for other kharacters. The costumes in MK9 and MKX are more stylized and give the different ninjas their own visual flair. Personally, if after 20 years, they had Scorpion and Subby fighting in the same outfit but with different colors, I would think they are lazy. Heck, Ermac had one of the best costume designs in MK9 other than being a generic red ninja. I would hate to see a new MK game with everyone stuck in attire from MK1-UMK3. Save those for DLC.

And its MK, the story won't always make sense at first. Half the people won't stay dead. And you mentioned the rules and foundations of the universe? F*** dude! You've got Elder Gods and magic and time travel thrown all over the place. There is no realism. Period. MK9's story won't even f***ing matter since its 25 YEARS in the future.

 

[Marcelino Rodrigues]

Well, MK9 did have very poor alternate costumes. That is true though. Most are basically very similar to their primary costume and some are really God-damn awful. I wish Mortal Kombat was more like Street Fighter when it comes to costumes.

 

[Commander]

Alternate costumes were fine, IMO, especially Dark Raiden, Ermac, Bi-Han, Deception Scorpion, non-Doc Brown Smoke, Human Cyrax and Human Sektor.

My only real complaint in the costume department was that klassic costumes for non-"ninja" characters would have been nice to see.

 

[londonhellgate]

Alternate costumes were fine, IMO, especially Dark Raiden, Ermac, Bi-Han, Deception Scorpion, non-Doc Brown Smoke, Human Cyrax and Human Sektor.

My only real complaint in the costume department was that klassic costumes for non-"ninja" characters would have been nice to see.

i am not agree with dark rayden.

 

[londonhellgate]

The costumes, are you REALLY complaining about the costumes? And the health bars too? Dude, they even gave us a klassic set of costumes to use in MK9. I'm not going to argue with you over opinions but I am going to knock down that bs you just threw at me.

You are complaining about the lifebars? They didn't look that good in MK2.

The costumes were simple back then, but thats all they were. Just color swaps for other kharacters. The costumes in MK9 and MKX are more stylized and give the different ninjas their own visual flair. Personally, if after 20 years, they had Scorpion and Subby fighting in the same outfit but with different colors, I would think they are lazy. Heck, Ermac had one of the best costume designs in MK9 other than being a generic red ninja. I would hate to see a new MK game with everyone stuck in attire from MK1-UMK3. Save those for DLC.

And its MK, the story won't always make sense at first. Half the people won't stay dead. And you mentioned the rules and foundations of the universe? F*** dude! You've got Elder Gods and magic and time travel thrown all over the place. There is no realism. Period. MK9's story won't even f***ing matter since its 25 YEARS in the future.

Look from my side i am not fighthing with you, remember it´s a discusion

is not about, complain or rant, if you ask me, imo i am not support this style
anyways is there more points of discussions asside costumes, but listening to what you mention:

Your points are wrong by bringing MK9 Klassic costumes:
1)are for ninjas only
2)are very limited, smoke has only mk2 costume but not umk3 etc
3)they give it to skarlet and cybersub who were not present in mk2/mk3.
4)they give a mutated costume for sub-zero (head from mk3 unmasked sub-zero and body from umk3 classic sub-zero)
5)they make more of these (again ninjas only) exclusive for Vita version of MK9
6)skarlet even had alternative costume in initial mk9 release found by hacking, but she never received it on full versions of game, only on vita version with crap graphics (same where Kenshi received his alt costume)
7)freddy never got 2nd costume and rain got a palette swapped umk3 costume on Vita only

Too that system was actually very ed up
Injustice too is fvcked up, batman/superman have like 20 or 30 costumes each, while Sinestro has 2?

About simpleness from the costumes at 1992/1994 is the reason of why mk is remembered. IF you don ´t get this point, i can show you other example from real world, and is "jesus christ" why jesus is remembered? cause i am sure that if jesus were has born in napoleon ´s time the whole world would not reminds to jesus. And why? cause jesus christ have a robe, long hair and beard. Well rightnow is that happening with classic mk games, cause they are simple and is easy to remind. For this reason neither a mk title with a playstation 40 system can not bash or erase games like mk1 or mk2.

And for finish i am not agree with you, mk need an history like or not, all the factors are importants, for you if any work of fiction is unrealistic
it's storyline does not matter and and that you may ignore it.

 

[Taj Gill]

The Jesus part literally made me burst out laughing at work. Thanks for allowing me to let my office know that I'm not JUST working at my desk.

 

[Dabluprint4]

The costumes, are you REALLY complaining about the costumes? And the health bars too? Dude, they even gave us a klassic set of costumes to use in MK9. I'm not going to argue with you over opinions but I am going to knock down that bs you just threw at me.

You are complaining about the lifebars? They didn't look that good in MK2.

The costumes were simple back then, but thats all they were. Just color swaps for other kharacters. The costumes in MK9 and MKX are more stylized and give the different ninjas their own visual flair. Personally, if after 20 years, they had Scorpion and Subby fighting in the same outfit but with different colors, I would think they are lazy. Heck, Ermac had one of the best costume designs in MK9 other than being a generic red ninja. I would hate to see a new MK game with everyone stuck in attire from MK1-UMK3. Save those for DLC.

And its MK, the story won't always make sense at first. Half the people won't stay dead. And you mentioned the rules and foundations of the universe? F*** dude! You've got Elder Gods and magic and time travel thrown all over the place. There is no realism. Period. MK9's story won't even f***ing matter since its 25 YEARS in the future.

Lmaoo!! You are awesome for this... He is really annoying