Is Ed Boon sure he's doing the right thing?

[londonhellgate]

Where are these bizarre as f*** feelings coming from? How is this game not MK to you? I see Scorpion, Sub Zero, the daughter of Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade... It's a fighting game. It's gory. There's fatalities.

What is your actual problem? Just the fact that it's not MK 1 or 2?

Forgive to me if i am pesimist, i don ´t offend to anyone, but i am not a person who is left mesmerized by boon
you dudes, always are seeing that all is reduced at technology sense or resources sense. But mk9 is shit , beyond if this have good anims, naked girls or modern designs. Also the majorie of fatalies are stupid at mk9, but i regonize that at MKD is Worse.

Too you see if a game sold more copies than others is better, maybe in the financial and economic sense, but not as a mk game if not this going sound to stupid .

Many ppl thinks that mk2 is a overrated game, but this is not true, nobody can fight against the classic games, cause ppl loves more this. Also ed boon can not recreate again the mk2 atmophere and less the secrets and rumors, and for to compensate this, ed boon make many kind trolling everywhere less in game.
(not sound to you this just the stupid kript from mk9? and there is more examples)

Ask question to anyone what is mortal kombat and they shall reply that remember mk1 or mk2, not mk9. why? cause mk1 was simple and complex at same time. Mk9 was complex only ,
Or tarkatan trash and maybe bbblp, now not remember that supposdely wb has fordibben to mk hd remix proyect publish his proyect as a game?
wake up nothing can bash and erase classsic game like mk1 or mk2, except something named as killer instinc 1 and 2, but without forget that killer instinc cannot make the realism of those games.

So, is incredible but real, you could have naked milenna in a ps3 or xb360, or this new stupid assasssin ´s creed scorpion in a playstation 20, but never could bash to thoseclassic games, so could be frustrating.
Also mk still is a 3d cartoon..... i am sure if this mk 10 get again the real and true realism maybe i consider this a mk really superior to mk1 or mk2. Too i add all things that i have explained in posts before......
But mk9 is a stupid reboot, where all the things from mk has dissapeeared.

Also, voguel is the most worse video game writter for a backstory ever, starting specially in mkd at konquest story mode.

 

[Tarkatan Trash]

I hope you're a Yankees fan...

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[londonhellgate]

Ah yes i hope that too you XD

 

[Bruzzrad]

Forgive to me if i am pesimist, i don ´t offend to anyone, but i am not a person that i am not a person who is left mesmerized by boon
you dudes, always are seeing that all is reduced at technology sense or resources sense. But mk9 is shit , beyond if this have good anims, naked girls or modern designs. Also the majorie of fatalies are stupid at mk9, but i regonize that at MKD is Worse.

Too you see if a game sold more copies than others is better, maybe in the financial and economic sense, but not as a mk game if not this going sound to stupid .

Many ppl thinks that mk2 is a overrated game, but this is not true, nobody can fight against the classic games, cause ppl loves more this. Also ed boon can not recreate again the mk2 atmophere and less the secrets and rumors, and for to compensate this, ed boon make many kind trolling everywhere less in game.
(no sound to you the stupid kript from mk9? and there is more examples)

Ask question to anyone what is mortal kombat and they shall reply that remember mk1 or mk2, not mk9. why? cause mk1 was simple and complex at same time. Mk9 was complex only ,
Or tarkatan trash and maybe bbblp, now not remember that supposdely wb has fordibben to mk hd remix proyect publish his proyect as a game?
wake up nothing can bash and erase classsic game like mk1 or mk2, except something named as killer instinc 1 and 2, but without forget that killer instinc cannot make the realism of those games.

So, is incredible but real, you could have naked milenna in a ps3 or xb360, or this new stupid assasssin ´s creed scorpion in a playstation 20, but never could bash to thoseclassic games, so could be frustrating.
Also mk still is a 3d cartoon..... i am sure if this mk 10 get again the real and true realism maybe i consider this a mk really superior to mk1 or mk2. Too i add all things that i have explained in posts before......
But mk9 is a stupid reboot, where all the things from mk has dissapeeared.

Also, voguel is the most worse video game writter for a backstory ever, starting specially in mkd at konquest story mode.

Jeez, and I thought spader was bad.

So you are saying, in a nutshell, that MK isn't MK anymore? Dafuq?

They gave you the arkade kollection so you should have nothing to worry about. If you love MK2 so much, get off this forum and play it. You don't need to look at MKX anymore with that kind of mentality. I understand MK2 was one of the best fighting games, but the AI got cheap as shite on the higher stages.

And the thing about complexity. Its as complex as you want it to be. Boon has made a fighting series that is so much easier to pick up and play compared to Street Fighter or Soul Calibur. MK9 was easy enough for new players, and still deep enough for complex and outrageous combos. MK2 had its time to shine, and its paved the way all the way to MKX.

And your last paragraph confused me. Were you complaining about the scantily clad female ninjas or the story? The story for MK9 was really well executed and great for a fighting game. If you really look at it, the early games didn't really have a story in between fights and we didn't know which endings are canon til the next game.

 

[Ricochetmatt]

Forgive to me if i am pesimist, i don ´t offend to anyone, but i am not a person who is left mesmerized by boon
you dudes, always are seeing that all is reduced at technology sense or resources sense. But mk9 is shit , beyond if this have good anims, naked girls or modern designs. Also the majorie of fatalies are stupid at mk9, but i regonize that at MKD is Worse.

Too you see if a game sold more copies than others is better, maybe in the financial and economic sense, but not as a mk game if not this going sound to stupid .

Many ppl thinks that mk2 is a overrated game, but this is not true, nobody can fight against the classic games, cause ppl loves more this. Also ed boon can not recreate again the mk2 atmophere and less the secrets and rumors, and for to compensate this, ed boon make many kind trolling everywhere less in game.
(not sound to you this just the stupid kript from mk9? and there is more examples)

Ask question to anyone what is mortal kombat and they shall reply that remember mk1 or mk2, not mk9. why? cause mk1 was simple and complex at same time. Mk9 was complex only ,
Or tarkatan trash and maybe bbblp, now not remember that supposdely wb has fordibben to mk hd remix proyect publish his proyect as a game?
wake up nothing can bash and erase classsic game like mk1 or mk2, except something named as killer instinc 1 and 2, but without forget that killer instinc cannot make the realism of those games.

So, is incredible but real, you could have naked milenna in a ps3 or xb360, or this new stupid assasssin ´s creed scorpion in a playstation 20, but never could bash to thoseclassic games, so could be frustrating.
Also mk still is a 3d cartoon..... i am sure if this mk 10 get again the real and true realism maybe i consider this a mk really superior to mk1 or mk2. Too i add all things that i have explained in posts before......
But mk9 is a stupid reboot, where all the things from mk has dissapeeared.

Also, voguel is the most worse video game writter for a backstory ever, starting specially in mkd at konquest story mode.

I couldn't make much sense of this and I mean no offense. But in regard to asking someone what Mortal Kombat is - OF COURSE people are going to talk about the originals. Because that was back when the series was new and causing controversy on every street corner.

The overall response to MK9 was extremely positive. It even brought me back to the series after three dreadful games had come and gone.

To add, the overall response to MKX so far has been mostly positive as well. I wish I could decipher what you were trying to say (again, no offense to you. I understand you're trying), but it seems like you're just some MK purist who wants to relive the originals over and over again.

If you hate modern MK so much and MK9 was such a huge disappointment to you, why are you even here?

Also, your gif doesn't relate to your post in any way.

 

[ErmacX]

MK9 is not as awful as londonhellgate says, neither as good as Bruzzrad explained. MK9 was a good game and that's it. I think what londonhellgate tries to say, is that MK2 is one kind of MK, and MK9, is another kind of MK, and he prefers the first ones, not because gameplay or story, it's because it had more background story and different perspective. MK2 is in the MK, MK2, MKD kind of game, kind of aura, and MK9 it's in the MK3, MK4, MKAr's aura. The first games aimed to be a realistic combat game, in which death was under the spotlight, I mean, the basic idea is, "what if a fight was really serious? I mean, death serious, how would you designed it?". In MK3, MKAr, MK9, the base of the game wasn't death or realism, was to be epic: MKAr, MK9, wanted that God of War, Gears of War epic story, epic designs and stages.

So that's what people think MK is. The first MKs are so John Tobias, and the latest MKs are so Boon/Vogel. When people thinks about what's "MK's essence", they think about one of these two ideas, and that's what ignites every discussion on every forum of MK.

If you ask me, I think MKX is tryin' to find a spot in the middle of these two ideas, and they're heading it correctly. I'm more of the first MKs, so I'm glad they're heading that way. But they are not there yet. And may not ever will.

And I agree with londonhellgate, Vogel IS a real idiot when it comes to tell a story, just look at MK9 story mode, and how limited was the universe of MK after MKD.

 

[londonhellgate]

Jeez, and I thought spader was bad.

So you are saying, in a nutshell, that MK isn't MK anymore? Dafuq?

They gave you the arkade kollection so you should have nothing to worry about. If you love MK2 so much, get off this forum and play it. You don't need to look at MKX anymore with that kind of mentality. I understand MK2 was one of the best fighting games, but the AI got cheap as shite on the higher stages.

And the thing about complexity. Its as complex as you want it to be. Boon has made a fighting series that is so much easier to pick up and play compared to Street Fighter or Soul Calibur. MK9 was easy enough for new players, and still deep enough for complex and outrageous combos. MK2 had its time to shine, and its paved the way all the way to MKX.

And your last paragraph confused me. Were you complaining about the scantily clad female ninjas or the story? The story for MK9 was really well executed and great for a fighting game. If you really look at it, the early games didn't really have a story in between fights and we didn't know which endings are canon til the next game.

by languaje barrier i don ´t be sure you call me bad or anything related, but your post give an impresion to me that you don´t want read negative critics to mk9 and for this you suggest to me play the arkade kollection that was a dirty strategy of marketing from ed boon.

Yes mk is a poor shadow rigthnow, is not purely mk, sorry, from mk it have very few. I'm not saying that actual mk title should to have be complex as I say or like i want, I'm just saying that ed boon has broken the formula of what really mk means. Also other things that bbblp is not saying here that is that mk is will be mixed with the stupid vision of kevin tancharoen, it have mk legacy elements, that sucks even.

About the programming that ed boon has made in mk9, is a easy tekken, anyway i regonize that is more
intuitive gameplay offcourse but nothing of this can erase to mk1 or mk2 without care how many technoology boon rigthnow have or how many money nrs has earned with this.

Is like i have said more above, but now i tell you in other words and sense, the hype that mk9 has gave is alot minor in comparision with the hype that mk2 has gave.

Ed boon can not make the mk2 atmophere, is more neither mk sm have it. Imo the gamplay is not all in life, all is important but more importat is respect the origins of mk, just like other franchises does.

Yes, too i am saying that mk9 female character looks pettry whores. The history of mk9 maybe have good cinematics but it have more giants plotholes in comparision with mk3 timeline, for this reasson boon wants make this mkx with a diffferent history cause him know the error that has made.

Yes mk1 and mk2 have not a full history, cause Jhon tobias wanted keep balance with all character backstory and for not focus all in an onlyone character for any reason nobody know who really won the mk3 invasion.

But the problem started just in mk3 all managed and builded by boon and his crazy and stupid ideas. For him all is about to trolll everything and you know that plotholes are the most stupid ever but not so big like mk9.

Now at mk9 what have? a stupid scorpion and stupid quanchi having a major protagonism cause both characters are the favorites of boon, sucks as hell.

Also do not forget something, ed boon at mk9 had the things very easy cause has managed classic and known characters made by Tobias years ago, specially the bosses(also goro and kintaro at mk9 are dumbass in all the senses), and this is the most hard to get, do not forget that since mk4 all bosses sucks, suddenly and now you can see a character like kotal khan, is.......... how i can tell you? irrational

 

[Marcelino Rodrigues]

Sorry guys, but to me - storyline-wise - Deadly Alliance and Deception were EASILY the best in MK history. Everything there was connected together, had a beginning and a climax end, especially the ressurection of Onaga. The only problem I have there is indeed Deception's Konquest mode (Armageddon's was better in terms of story), because the concept of Shujinko didn't work because it's ridiculous everyone actually trained him. Apart from that, Dead Alliance-Deception stories were VERY well-written for a fighting game and expanded a lot of the mythos of the franchise. I mean, even Scorpion (a character that I find extremely dull) had much more development in those games than in the first four. So, yeah, I don't agree with you there. MK9 story was "okay".

For a fighting game, Mortal Kombat has easily the best and most interesting universe and the best storylines, mixing horror, erotism, drama and even RPG, with Chinese / Japanese / Native-American / and much more modern settings. What are you even complaining about? At least it's not another game about people wanting to fight for no other reason besides becoming the strongest... because that's never been done before.

 

[mcgriffin]

MK2 is in the MK, MK2, MKD kind of game, kind of aura, and MK9 it's in the MK3, MK4, MKAr's aura. The first games aimed to be a realistic combat game, in which death was under the spotlight, I mean, the basic idea is, "what if a fight was really serious? I mean, death serious, how would you designed it?".

I never understood this argument that some Mortal Kombat games are "more realistic" than others. People be throwing fireballs and losing three times their body-weight in blood. At this point, cybernetic bodyparts are the most realistic ideas in the damn games. Y'all spent any time in reality? There's zero four armed dragon people. Not even one. The games are all equally unrealistic. Realism shouldn't even be a unit of measurement here.

ALSO! People keep attributing the MK3 story and characters to Boon and Vogel instead of Tobias. Why?? Tobias was the brainchild on that one as well! He was the creative director until MK4.

 

[buddyboy101]

Gonna have to agree with londonhellsgate on this one. MK has strayed far from its origins - especially the tone of the series and the style of gameplay. Yes, MK2 and MK3 had some silly elements (friendship, babalities, hundreds of bones, etc.), but there was gravitas. Underlying everything was a certain darkness - in the character selection portraits, in the music, in the packaging (e.g. UMK3 skull catacombs). Following MK3, things seemed just...cartoonier, more comicky. Additionally the gameplay became super clunky, less fluid, less responsive. MKDA/MKD were probably the worst offenders - every character felt super lethargic and bulky. Whereas in MK3, everything moves so smoothly and quickly - MKDA/MKD were a huge departure from this. MK9 fell somewhere in the middle. I think Boon realized MK lost its original appeal - so he went for a surface level reboot (old characters/stages) but underneath, the direction was the same - cartoonish, goofy, clunky, and just not that much fun. MKX will see this trend continue, except with the influence of Injustice. It's apparent the original, dark and gritty MK vibe is long gone (possibly but not entirely dude to Tobias's departure), which explains why the HD remake was canned and why MK9 did a half ass job with retro skins (MK2/MK3 exclusive to Vita lol). I think the truth is that while Warner provides more resources, it also allows for less risk and edginess. And also...the developers are old dudes now. Boon and Tobia were in their 20s when they first started out, which is when creativity is at its ripest. Now Boon is in his 40's, he's made MK over and over, he's worn out, he lacks the original inspiration, which happens to a lot of creative people as they age. The magic eventually runs out. But luckily for us, we can continue playing the classics while still supporting the guys who gave us these classic games. To expect them to duplicate the past is a bit unrealistic.

 

[Commander]

MK9 sold better than MK1 & MK2.
MKX will likely sell better than all of the 2d MK's combined.


Mortal Kombat is currently in it's golden age. And it has never looked so good. Stay salty bruh, I'll be enjoying this 2014 ish

^^^
THIS!!!

londonhellgate, if you hate the look and feel of MK X so much, then why the hell do you even bother with it, in the first place?
Just play your MK1 & MKII games, while the rest of us enjoy MK X.
This MK game looks so damn amazing, and I can't remember the last time that I was so psyched for an MK game.

The overall response to MK9 was extremely positive. It even brought me back to the series after three dreadful games had come and gone.

To add, the overall response to MKX so far has been mostly positive as well. I wish I could decipher what you were trying to say (again, no offense to you. I understand you're trying), but it seems like you're just some MK purist who wants to relive the originals over and over again.

If you hate modern MK so much and MK9 was such a huge disappointment to you, why are you even here?

Agreed.
Aside from the online netcode, MK9 was awesome and everything that I could want in an MK1 thru UMK3 reboot.

That being said, MK9 was a great MK1 thru UMK3 fan game and I've been an MK fan since day 1, but I sure as hell don't want the same shit constantly being rehashed.
It's the same reason why I really hope that Scorpion and Sub-Zero settle their shit in MK X too, because that bullshit revenge story has been dragging on since MK1, in 1992.
I want to see something FRESH for the series.
Some of the klassics can come back, but I really want to see a fresh new take on MK, and MK X seems to be doing that the proper way.

 

[londonhellgate]

I never understood this argument that some Mortal Kombat games are "more realistic" than others. People be throwing fireballs and losing three times their body-weight in blood. At this point, cybernetic bodyparts are the most realistic ideas in the damn games. Y'all spent any time in reality? There's zero four armed dragon people. Not even one. The games are all equally unrealistic. Realism shouldn't even be a unit of measurement here.

ALSO! People keep attributing the MK3 story and characters to Boon and Vogel instead of Tobias. Why?? Tobias was the brainchild on that one as well! He was the creative director until MK4.

Beyond of the photo realistic arts, there is something that you are not understanding about "realism".Offcourse that every video-game is pure fantasy. Imo when we tallk about realism is acording to coherence of realism inside in a video game under the fantasy genre.
Is normal that cyber smoke throw many cyrax ´s bomb and the world explode as a finisher? its was generic at mk3 and have no sense as result. Examples like this are whole mk franchise. Otther example is baraka ´s xray move, is irrational is cause this xray move is disguised as a finisher. Other example is the stupid teleport of subzero in mk vs dc and mk9(as intro) no comments is pathetic its was destinewd for smoke this kind of teleport, also explain that subzero is the idiot here between many reasons. It is about the "coherence". Imo the exagerated fatalities should be addded to bosses, for example cage mk2 rip torse fatality is wrong, fit more alot with kintaro than cage. Or too quanchi mk4 leg rip fality fit more in goro than quanchi, also qusanchi is very human not seem a demon for perform this finishers.

About Jhon Tobias, him had not influence in mk3 development excepts few things, if i am not wrong the concepts and ideas of mk3 roster were devised By voguel goskie and boon.

Jhon Tobias only draw them in skechets by order/ask from this pathetic triumvirate.
Also him did not written the mk3 comics cause him never has written mk3 backstory.

So him was not creative director at the practice enought, except the making of sheeva and motaro. Tobias Had a clearly less infuence.

So hard to acept, i know but since mk3, boon has ruined mk franchise gradually, also curious if you read the first interview to midway at mk1 and mk2, boon had a more lower profile, but at same time , seem that him has done some complains or rants. Also so to speak, at 1992/1993 the spootligth were more focused In Jhon Tobias and Daniel Pesina And it is not a surprise to anyone cause ppl watch more the graphics than the programmings, so is not a mistery by boon felt a frustration. It is maybe is the explanation of why boon wants make 1000 kind of trolling.

 

[londonhellgate]

^^^
THIS!!!

londonhellgate, if you hate the look and feel of MK X so much, then why the hell do you even bother with it, in the first place?
Just play your MK1 & MKII games, while the rest of us enjoy MK X.
This MK game looks so damn amazing, and I can't remember the last time that I was so psyched for an MK game.

WHy? Did I should not do negative reviews? Is clearly that you do not want read this and probably you want hide the sun with a hand or bury your head under the floor, and i don´t care what you do think. Also, how is called this topic? lulz for boon?

Ahh this is the trap and is the strategic from boon of why him has try to find a success with mk9 cause many fans could not remember 1992/1993 era. Maybe you are not a fans since those years.
And is sad for you, cause you want "play play and play" without analize what hell you have in the screen before, anyway is clearly that me is going to sucks ed boon ´s balls here.
Sorry seem that you have started to loose arguments


Too i have forgot read to Ricochetmatt
I am not saying that i wanted revive old mk games, but yes that boon should care the mk origins and is not doing this, him is transformating the mk franchise to any thing less a mk game.

 

[Katalina Caine]

It is about the "coherence". Imo the exagerated fatalities should be addded to bosses, for example cage mk2 rip torse fatality is wrong, fit more alot with kintaro than cage. Or too quanchi mk4 leg rip fality fit more in goro than quanchi, also qusanchi is very human not seem a demon for perform this finishers.

You're trolling right ? Do you even know Johnny Cage can rip torso until MK2 ?

 

[Katalina Caine]

Forgot that, I didn't read the "mk2 rip torso fatality"... Sorry.

 

[C-Sword]

At least, he isn't demanding all the characters to have blond hair...

 

[Katalina Caine]

My blondness isn't in cause. I'm just tired cause I went back of work few minutes ago.

 

[TimeofTheChimps]

WHy? Did I should not do negative reviews? Is clearly that you do not want read this and probably you want hide the sun with a hand or bury your head under the floor, and i don´t care what you do think. Also, how is called this topic? lulz for boon?

Ahh this is the trap and is the strategic from boon of why him has try to find a success with mk9 cause many fans could not remember 1992/1993 era. Maybe you are not a fans since those years.
And is sad for you, cause you want "play play and play" without analize what hell you have in the screen before, anyway is clearly that me is going to sucks ed boon ´s balls here.
Sorry seem that you have started to loose arguments

Over half of this makes absolutely no sense. You just stated that you suck Boon's balls. Lolz. And it is you who's been losing all the arguments since the very beginning. Here's a tip: Speak English or don't speak it AT ALL.

 

[Commander]

WHy? Did I should not do negative reviews? Is clearly that you do not want read this and probably you want hide the sun with a hand or bury your head under the floor, and i don´t care what you do think. Also, how is called this topic? lulz for boon?

Ahh this is the trap and is the strategic from boon of why him has try to find a success with mk9 cause many fans could not remember 1992/1993 era. Maybe you are not a fans since those years.
And is sad for you, cause you want "play play and play" without analize what hell you have in the screen before, anyway is clearly that me is going to sucks ed boon ´s balls here.
Sorry seem that you have started to loose arguments

No.
I'm not saying not to have your opinions on it.
It's just that ALL that you say on MK X is ONLY bashing it, with no evidence to back any of it up.
You're just bashing just to bash.

Don't remember the 1992 / 1993 era?
I was probably playing MK1 in the arcade, before you were a speck in your daddy's eye.
The difference is that I can see things with an open mind, and I don't just blindly bash a game that I haven't even played yet, as you do.
You keep implying that MK X is bad without playing it.
Makes NO sense at all.

 

[C-Sword]

My blondness isn't in cause. I'm just tired cause I went back of work few minutes ago.

I was referring to you lol. I think the old members understood what I meant.