Goro will defeat Liu Kang

[TJHooker]

Some of you are letting emotions and your attachment to the character get the better of you. He'll still be on the select screen, still be playable, this discussion is just for story purposes, and the possibility of such an event. The same goes for every other character, such as Kung Lao who has been brought up.

Personally, I'm all for my favourite characters getting killed off, it it makes for an interesting and epic MK story. Besides, stories are meant to take advantage of your emotions, so Aldo, if killing him off would have a big impact on you, that would be evidence of an effective story IMO.

nonsense...so lets kill all the MK characters because of that and leave only one - Shao Kahn for example and play as him against him on ten-fifteen different stages...now that would make up good story isn't it jarvis653? oh and emotions have nothing to do with personal favorites...i used to like characters first of all because of great designs, cool movesets and other gameplay wise stuff, their story is second thing that interests me to tell you honestly...

 

[UncleRuckus]

wow you guys i have got a different point of view. One Yes Kang was the hero of mk, but this is NRS chance to change the story and i am all for it what ever happens. If sub zero and scorpion team up to kill quan chi rather than fight each other cool. If Kang died at the start Cool. Its there story and it will be good no matter what. Just if a character dies like Kang there is always dlc for f sakes. They are not gonna get rid of that character if thats what your thinking. I personally thought it was amazing seeing dead Kang because no one would expect that he would die. They can always invent new characters and if you guys have not noticed yet, every character almost dies and comes back to life some how or eventually is in a later game.

You make an absolutely good point. I can't believe how so many people are against a character like Kang dying. I mean it seems that lot of you guys are scared of any change, I mean it is a new game after all. Everything should not remain the same. The series could go on with a new hero(more cooler and interesting) in Liu Kangs place. Liu Kang is just a very boring and unoriginal character to me. I don't hate him but, I just think he is just so unoriginal. People seem to freak out when things change, Kang has been the hero in four games straight, it was time for something new to happen by the fifth game. What kind of plot development would have occured if he was the Hero for 6 games straight? Thats just dumb. He has to at least take some kind of loss. That is also what makes a hero stronger and a better character. All the best hero characters face a serious defeat: Batman, Wolverine, Spiderman etc.. I just hope you guys get my point. Wanting Kang in the game is cool but, please realize how wack it is to want every game to hold on to somethings with little or no creative changes.

 

[TJHooker]

You make an absolutely good point. I can't believe how so many people are against a character like Kang dying. I mean it seems that lot of you guys are scared of any change, I mean it is a new game after all. Everything should not remain the same. The series could go on with a new hero(more cooler and interesting) in Liu Kangs place. Liu Kang is just a very boring and unoriginal character to me. I don't hate him but, I just think he is just so unoriginal. People seem to freak out when things change, Kang has been the hero in four games straight, it was time for something new to happen by the fifth game. What kind of plot development would have occured if he was the Hero for 6 games straight? Thats just dumb. He has to at least take some kind of loss. That is also what makes a hero stronger and a better character. All the best hero characters face a serious defeat: Batman, Wolverine, Spiderman etc.. I just hope you guys get my point. Wanting Kang in the game is cool but, please realize how wack it is to want every game to hold on to somethings with little or no creative changes.

...yet another nonsense...everyone have characters, that they think is NOT ORGINAl and not CREATIVE...for you its Kang, for me its Noob Saibot, for someone its Sheeva etc...its merely subjective if you'd ask me...but its hardly a reason for changes, why you need change something, why not just ADD something to already existing stuff?

 

[Taj Gill]

I doubt its gonna happen, but if it does, he better not die again lol. Who knows where that will lead to... *rolls eyes*

 

[jarvis653]

nonsense...so lets kill all the MK characters because of that and leave only one - Shao Kahn for example and play as him against him on ten-fifteen different stages...now that would make up good story isn't it jarvis653? oh and emotions have nothing to do with personal favorites...i used to like characters first of all because of great designs, cool movesets and other gameplay wise stuff, their story is second thing that interests me to tell you honestly...

You clearly missed the point of my post. I never said that killing off all the characters would make a good story. I said that I'm fine with any of my favourite characters dying if it will make for a good story. Obviously they'll still be playable in this game!
I suggest you lay off the sarcasm and spend more time reading.

 

[TJHooker]

You clearly missed the point of my post. I never said that killing off all the characters would make a good story. I said that I'm fine with any of my favourite characters dying if it will make for a good story. Obviously they'll still be playable in this game!
I suggest you lay off the sarcasm and spend more time reading.

wait...you mean killing you personal favorite in the story of current game or making him/her disappear from the series?

 

[Aldo Moreno]

I think the only reason why you guys are saying he should die and all that and yall dont care cause you guys ARENT LIU KANG FANS!!!

wow you guys i have got a different point of view. One Yes Kang was the hero of mk, but this is NRS chance to change the story and i am all for it what ever happens. If sub zero and scorpion team up to kill quan chi rather than fight each other cool. If Kang died at the start Cool. Its there story and it will be good no matter what. Just if a character dies like Kang there is always dlc for f sakes. They are not gonna get rid of that character if thats what your thinking. I personally thought it was amazing seeing dead Kang because no one would expect that he would die. They can always invent new characters and if you guys have not noticed yet, every character almost dies and comes back to life some how or eventually is in a later game.

Yeah, that will dumb and freaking ruin thier rivarly and sub zero and scorpion fans will be mad
Yeah but this is Liu Kang, he doesnt need to die again! He is the freaking hero! And when they came back they were normal but Liu Kang was a zombie!
And it pissed off a lot of us Liu Kang fans.
And they tried to fix it by making it a zombie but just made matters wroser!

You make an absolutely good point. I can't believe how so many people are against a character like Kang dying. I mean it seems that lot of you guys are scared of any change, I mean it is a new game after all. Everything should not remain the same. The series could go on with a new hero(more cooler and interesting) in Liu Kangs place. Liu Kang is just a very boring and unoriginal character to me. I don't hate him but, I just think he is just so unoriginal. People seem to freak out when things change, Kang has been the hero in four games straight, it was time for something new to happen by the fifth game. What kind of plot development would have occured if he was the Hero for 6 games straight? Thats just dumb. He has to at least take some kind of loss. That is also what makes a hero stronger and a better character. All the best hero characters face a serious defeat: Batman, Wolverine, Spiderman etc.. I just hope you guys get my point. Wanting Kang in the game is cool but, please realize how wack it is to want every game to hold on to somethings with little or no creative changes.

Oh he isn't orignal? Hmmm who in mortal kombat turns into a mother ****ing dragon? Who in mortal kombat throws fireballs that are shape of a dragon and can do it in the damn ****ing air? Who in mortal kombat sounds like a damn turkey? Who in Mortal Kombat did the 1st biclyce kick and flying kick in mortal kombat?
LIU KANG!!!

If you think he isnt orginal cause he is just a bruce lee clone, then think again! He started the Bruce Lee clones!!!!

And this is MORTAL KOMBAT not DC or Marvel!

 

[Viking_Poodle]

Oh he isn't orignal? Hmmm who in mortal kombat turns into a mother ****ing dragon? Who in mortal kombat throws fireballs that are shape of a dragon and can do it in the damn ****ing air? Who in mortal kombat sounds like a damn turkey? Who in Mortal Kombat did the 1st biclyce kick and flying kick in mortal kombat?
LIU KANG!!!

If you think he isnt orginal cause he is just a bruce lee clone, then think again! He started the Bruce Lee clones!!!!

And this is MORTAL KOMBAT not DC or Marvel!

He is original? Last time I checked he was just some asian guy in sweat pants and slippers. Yeah he throws fireballs.. SO DO OTHER CHARACTERS! Flying kick? Really? I don't even think I need to argue that. He's unoriginal and cheap as **** to have to play against most of the time. I honestly would not mind him being missing from the series. Obviously.

 

[Liu Kang93]

I want to knw why people want to see someone else become champion of mk. If this is the case then i want to see Subzero become a hellspawn

 

[jarvis653]

Yep, another thread turning to shit because some people can't hold a mature, respectful discussion.

This is not a love/hate Liu Kang topic! If you can't see past that then please stop posting, there's enough threads like that already.

 

[BAC05]

I think the only reason why you guys are saying he should die and all that and yall dont care cause you guys ARENT LIU KANG FANS!!!



Yeah, that will dumb and freaking ruin thier rivarly and sub zero and scorpion fans will be mad
Yeah but this is Liu Kang, he doesnt need to die again! He is the freaking hero! And when they came back they were normal but Liu Kang was a zombie!
And it pissed off a lot of us Liu Kang fans.
And they tried to fix it by making it a zombie but just made matters wroser!



Oh he isn't orignal? Hmmm who in mortal kombat turns into a mother ****ing dragon? Who in mortal kombat throws fireballs that are shape of a dragon and can do it in the damn ****ing air? Who in mortal kombat sounds like a damn turkey? Who in Mortal Kombat did the 1st biclyce kick and flying kick in mortal kombat?
LIU KANG!!!

If you think he isnt orginal cause he is just a bruce lee clone, then think again! He started the Bruce Lee clones!!!!

And this is MORTAL KOMBAT not DC or Marvel!

Please stop flaming man. Your being a little B*^#% about this. It hasn't even happened yet and your pissing all over yourself. Grow up! It's a game.

The only thing your accomplishing right now is making me want Kang to die even more now. He can be "A" hero without being the main draw of the story. I for one think that Goro Kills Kang, Tsung gets his soul and outworld takes over completely. After collecting his soul Tsung uses Kangs image to set traps for the other earthrealm fighters knocking them off one by one. Kung Lao tries to avenge Kangs death but is killed, and shao kahns invasion continues leaving raiden to step in himself.

 

[jarvis653]

I for one think that Goro Kills Kang, Tsung gets his soul and outworld takes over completely. After collecting his soul Tsung uses Kangs image to set traps for the other earthrealm fighters knocking them off one by one. Kung Lao tries to avenge Kangs death but is killed, and shao kahns invasion continues leaving raiden to step in himself.

I like this idea, at least in some respects. I have also thought it could be Raiden who is left to defeat Shao Kahn. Explanation:

Present Raiden who sends the telepathic message dies. He sends it just before he receives the final, fatal blow from Shao Kahn. This message results in an alternate timeline where Raiden has the potential to defeat Kahn with the knowledge he has received. Having them face each other again for the final battle, presumably under advantageous circumstances this time, would bring closure to the story and make for a very climactic ending IMO.

 

[mortalkombat]

I never expected to get this many replies in one day. Hmm...

My idea was that basically: Earth Realm will lose to Outworld in the first tournament to Goro.

In the original time line, the tournament was a single elimination competition, presumably with Liu Kang and Goro fighting in the finals and then Kang winning. However, Raiden's tampering with the time might worry the Elder Gods. They may fear the corruption of Dark Raiden's tampering more than Shao Kahn conquering Earth Realm, so they'll not only continue rewarding Goro with eternal youth (the gift to MK champions), they will increase his strength in an attempt to counteract Raiden's distortion of reality.

Goro will defeat Liu Kang in the finals because of the actions of the Elder Gods and he will try to fatality Liu Kang until Raiden illegally intervenes.

Normally, this would result in serious consequences, but being cocky with their victory, Shang Tsung and Goro let Liu Kang live out of humility. Additionally, according to the rules of Mortal Kombat, the losing realm can declare a re-match tournament. Shang Tsung, being the Grand Master host, will allow Raiden's interference with preventing Liu Kang's fatality because he is confident Goro will win the next tournament, which will be in Outworld, just like MK2.

I think people don't realize that Mortal Kombat 2 was Outworld demanding a rematch in Mortal Kombat against Earth Realm. I think it will be the case again, except Earth Realm will demand it.

In the Outworld tournament, everything will still be the same except the stakes are even higher for Earth Realm. They have no hero or champion to rely on... Liu Kang is full of self-doubt and Outworld has even more of an advantage having the tournament in Outworld now.

I also think it will be a plot device to eliminate Kintaro and expand the role of Goro and Shang Tsung. It would also make Liu Kang's ascension to Mortal Kombat champion be more dramatic and dark. He may lose but he will have a shot at redemption and becoming champion through Mortal Kombat hosted by Grand Master Shang Tsung in Outworld.

I seriously believe they might do something like this because it has been said by Ed Boon and Hector Sanchez numerous times that Liu Kang winning will be one of the things in the story that will be "twisted" and "changed around". Not necessarily erased, but will happen in "a way you might not expect" (and exact quote from somewhere).

Thoughts?

 

[Blackcyborg]

I like that idea. Whatever does happen, hopefully it's fleshed out and interesting, and makes the new canon story better told.

 

[jarvis653]

@mortalkombat Great post, enjoyed reading your idea. I especially like that Shang Tsung and Goro would have more focus through such events, as they are an iconic duo who I always felt deserved more attention. I also thought similarly in the way that Liu Kang would be cut down somehow in the story. A dark path to his redemption sounds promising.

Although I must say, there isn't much reason for you to believe this will happen. Again, it's a great idea, but I can't justify it as much more. Anything's possible though, and I'd like to see something like that come to fruition.

PS: I noticed you were concerned about whether your topic would generate much interest. No need for that, there are always people on here who are keen on some creative discussions. Keep them coming.

 

[Inmorbium]

Mortal Kombat is one of the rarest series where I don't actually hate the main character. That said, I hope Liu Kang doesn't die, because his zombie form was stupid.

@mortalkombat: Outstanding, deserved +1 Rep. However, you forgot to mention one thing: Goro might be killed/defeated by Johnny Cage, just like in the movies. It IS a possibility, just saying...
Also, if the Earthrealm warriors are to fail against the Tournament, then Outworld will have 10 consecutive victories, and thus Shao Kahn will be able to konquer Earth.

This is kinda off-topic: I simply don't get it... Raiden is a ****ing god (as far as I can tell, gods can't be killed), and even Liu Kang managed to defeat the Emperor. TWICE. So how the hell he gets killed by Kahn after the Armageddon? Meh...

 

[Taj Gill]

@mortalkombat - Probably the illest story ive ever read about MK, honestly that was brilliant.

 

[COLBYA]

I never expected to get this many replies in one day. Hmm...

My idea was that basically: Earth Realm will lose to Outworld in the first tournament to Goro.

In the original time line, the tournament was a single elimination competition, presumably with Liu Kang and Goro fighting in the finals and then Kang winning. However, Raiden's tampering with the time might worry the Elder Gods. They may fear the corruption of Dark Raiden's tampering more than Shao Kahn conquering Earth Realm, so they'll not only continue rewarding Goro with eternal youth (the gift to MK champions), they will increase his strength in an attempt to counteract Raiden's distortion of reality.

Goro will defeat Liu Kang in the finals because of the actions of the Elder Gods and he will try to fatality Liu Kang until Raiden illegally intervenes.

Normally, this would result in serious consequences, but being cocky with their victory, Shang Tsung and Goro let Liu Kang live out of humility. Additionally, according to the rules of Mortal Kombat, the losing realm can declare a re-match tournament. Shang Tsung, being the Grand Master host, will allow Raiden's interference with preventing Liu Kang's fatality because he is confident Goro will win the next tournament, which will be in Outworld, just like MK2.

I think people don't realize that Mortal Kombat 2 was Outworld demanding a rematch in Mortal Kombat against Earth Realm. I think it will be the case again, except Earth Realm will demand it.

In the Outworld tournament, everything will still be the same except the stakes are even higher for Earth Realm. They have no hero or champion to rely on... Liu Kang is full of self-doubt and Outworld has even more of an advantage having the tournament in Outworld now.

I also think it will be a plot device to eliminate Kintaro and expand the role of Goro and Shang Tsung. It would also make Liu Kang's ascension to Mortal Kombat champion be more dramatic and dark. He may lose but he will have a shot at redemption and becoming champion through Mortal Kombat hosted by Grand Master Shang Tsung in Outworld.

I seriously believe they might do something like this because it has been said by Ed Boon and Hector Sanchez numerous times that Liu Kang winning will be one of the things in the story that will be "twisted" and "changed around". Not necessarily erased, but will happen in "a way you might not expect" (and exact quote from somewhere).

Thoughts?

I love this awesome story. I really hope they do have something as cool as this.

And as for the kang fans i understand that you like your hero and dont want him changed. But for me I just dont want the same boring story over and over. If you ever played the Megamanx games from capcom i love megaman too like a hero. But i really hate fighting sigma, that is so fricking boring as hell. Its the same boss 10 games in a row. how stupid is that. that series needs a change and so does mortal kombats story line. Kang can still be a hero, like this story above me. But if people need to die or change in order to have a good story so be it.

As for the scorpion vs sub zero fans, I would feel the same way about this as i would the kang story. I would not care if they joined forces and there rival is done. Ya maybe some fans would get mad, but like a said if it changes the story to entertain me im all for it. Better seeing something change every once in a while then have the same boring stuff over and over.

And as for people if they do die in the series and not come back. Like i said almost every character died if you ever watched mk endings. But you really think if scorpion killed quan chi and freed his soul that he would not return in the next mortal kombat. That would be insane. Of course they would still put them in the next game dlc or what ever. Because there iconic. Mk would not be the same without Kang.

 

[mortalkombat]

Well, I am glad people have taken the time to read my "educated guess" on the plot (hehehe). Many forums I have been on are terrible about walls of text.

Anyway, I hope nobody gets offended by the fact that I have not attempted to respond and honor their contributions to this thread.

I have read most of them. Many I don't agree with, but I won't try to argue with them here because it's not what I intended for this topic to be for and it would carry away from what I wanted to be discussed. I will say though that a lot of these ideas seem not to consider the probability that the first and second tournament will be organized, single-elimination tournaments that are highly regulated by sacred edicts. So, for instance, people teaming up on Liu Kang would never happen. It would result in sever punishment by the Elder Gods. This also means that allies will sometimes fight other allies, so it is very unlikely for LIu Kang to die and be avenged by Kung Lao, for example.

As for comments anyone that has raised doubts about this hypothesized story, please consider what Ed Boon and Hector Sanchez have said about Liu Kang role in the story. There has been numerous quotes (unfortunately, I cannot remember the specific articles they were quoted) that have gone out to say that Liu Kang's victory in Mortal Kombat will be "changed around". I remember there was even a specific, random example of a story line change said by Hector Sanchez that said that perhaps we could be surprised with something as unexpected as "Liu Kang losing to Goro" (paraphrased).

Also, if the Earthrealm warriors are to fail against the Tournament, then Outworld will have 10 consecutive victories, and thus Shao Kahn will be able to konquer Earth.

This is kinda off-topic: I simply don't get it... Raiden is a ****ing god (as far as I can tell, gods can't be killed), and even Liu Kang managed to defeat the Emperor. TWICE. So how the hell he gets killed by Kahn after the Armageddon? Meh...

If Earth Realm were to fail in the first Mortal Kombat on Earth, it may be possible to declare a rematch tournament, according to the rules of Mortal Kombat. This is was why there was a second tournament in Outworld that would "decide the fate of Earth Realm" in Mortal Kombat 2; because Shao Kahn demanded a rematch tournament after Goro lost.

Shao Kahn and Raiden are possibly close in power, if not equal. In any case, all confrontations with Raiden were in Outworld, thus the possibility that Raiden's Godlike powers were limited. Also, during Armageddon, I think it was because he already absorbed the power of Blaze.

 

[Commander]

@mortalkombat - Love your idea for Liu Kang's involvement in MK 9

As for the scorpion vs sub zero fans, I would feel the same way about this as i would the kang story. I would not care if they joined forces and there rival is done. Ya maybe some fans would get mad, but like a said if it changes the story to entertain me im all for it. Better seeing something change every once in a while then have the same boring stuff over and over.

I like this idea a lot.
I would love to see Scorpion and Sub Zero uniting to kill Quan Chi, after they discover that he screwed both of them over.
If they did unite in story mode, then this statment made by Ed Boon would make sense for them in 2-on-2 mode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PND3qSIKZEU&feature=fvsr (go to the 3:18 mark in the video)