I only see two ways of him being playable: Kronika reunites him/brings him from the past (unlikely, this looks like a simple solution for her problem) or some very important flashback (like Raiden vs Shinnok in the first war). But I totally see him as a boss like MKII Shang Tsung, would make sense.
Ok, here I go. Now that you seem a little bit calmer than before, even though you are still sad, I must ask.
Let us leave those very obvious reasons to be mad: WB's disregard for PC players, their ridiculous treatment with MKX's launch, no beta for PC, stuttering online, no fixes for all of this, etc. All of this has no excuse.
Let me ask about Frost. Don't you think you should wait a little bit to actually see what's gonna be of her? I mean, it was just a leak and a select screen. I do agree that's final product visual, but isn't it too early to make a judgement? Everyone, even the dead, have past and present versions. Skarlet doesn't have a hair element, but she has a costume that makes her hair being shown. Kano too. Maybe that's just an outfit for Frost. Isn't it too early to assume she's a cyborg like Sektor? Maybe she's got only a few enchancements. I mean, isn't it too early to actually judge from a very small picture from a smuggled picture?
You see, I'm not judging you, ok? Personally or anything. But I get the feeling that you always get frustrated (once again, we're talking about Frost, and now about characters, outfits, designs, etc.) because as an artist you project your likes into theirs. This is a recipe for disaster. I think you expect something, at the least from what I read of you since before MKX, you build something about it, and as these are creations of another one, they have a slight chance of meeting your expectations, specially if you are so specific.
Because in the end, these characters we like are Tobias', Vogel's, Boon's, Beran's, etc. (now Kittelsen's) children. Even though they are very real for us, what we really admire is their job and their minds.
Mate, you seem like a nice guy and all, but... what in the f%ck are you talking about?
I will split my response in separata parts, so maybe you guys can finally stop with this ridiculous profiling
1. Sad? I was sad, when it was lazily announced that KP2 won't come for MKX on PC, which meant that no future support was also coming for PC. I did feel sad, back then. Getting shit thrown in my face, in exchange for my money and my loyalty.
To be honest I rarely feel sad at all. Gotta be something really special. 90% of the time I feel is anger. But in this case, I am feeling indifferent about MK11. Except that recent one I used to vent about how stagnant MK became.
2. Yes. Let's leave the reasons to be mad, and find nothing remaining.
3. Guys... sigh. What is this obsession with Frost now? I like her, yeah. And? One character doesn't make entire game for me. Unless the game is so boring that I can only look forward to one thing.
4. The reason I assume is that since, MK11 reveal, I have been bombarded by insider info. Ironic, really. When MKX was revealed, I dug for any kind of info I could find. I would spend hours in Reddit or other places trying to find leaks or contact someone. Now? I couldn't care less about entire roster, but like on purpose I got my eyes on rumours and leaks, that made sense (I am not talking those fake full roster leaks, but chips of info that I connected over period of time)
Since official reveal I got some whispers stating, that Frost got a full revamp. Then there were new mentions about "Ice Construct" Frost, then later on I got even more specific info from other places that she is having cybernetic implants/is fully Cyborg.
Once I shut off my brain and stopped expecting some deep story with deep lore and whatever, and just started looking at this as another inconsistent cheap Hollywood style junk story, I saw how predictable it is. Hence why I managed to guess Kronika's role in the story. And so far nothing has surprised me. So I realized that Frost being Cyborg isn't so far fetched. They already made her generic in MKX, so I knew that in MK11, she will definitely be evil and if Kittelsen is part of story, then it is very likely that Frost will see Cassie as her rival and will want to get revenge. And she will be once again a one dimensional power hungry villain, which made me do a prophecy. She will be working with Kronika, in exchange for more power.
But I thought... Just wait and see. No way they would BE this generic. THEN got the final tip. Which meantioned that Frost actually got a full revamp and she got made into a Cyborg by Kronika. ONCE AGAIN. I said. Eh. Just wait and see.
So I had multiple sources claiming same thing, since the reveal. And then finally came out Roster leak pic. So at this point... I would have to be seriously f%cking stupid, to claim that NO NO NO. She is deifnitely not a Cyborg.
NRS got a fetish on bald females. She shares this look with Kronika. Both Kronika and Geras look like high tech robots. So seeing you guys "NO NO, they still could be making changes" is just funny. This is how she will look like. Gear or no gear, it doesn't f%cking matter to me. This is her default look. Of course I am not gonna be naive like some people here and give 100% guarantees as that is a recipe for getting crushed in the most embarassing way. But I am pretty positive about it.
5. Sigh... this is the big W.T.F.
To be honest I can't blame you that much, cause I can't expect you to read all of my posts, but THAT IS PRECISELY why you don't make such assumptions unless you have enough evidence to support it.
because as an artist you project your likes into theirs. This is a recipe for disaster. I think you expect something, at the least from what I read of you since before MKX, you build something about it, and as these are creations of another one, they have a slight chance of meeting your expectations, specially if you are so specific.
That's what a third rate artist does. Not once, did I ask them/or expect them to make Frost look similar to what I have in mind. Or entire MK. I am just one guy, who like an idiot, bought their games full price.
On the contrary, I actually kept most of my MK art hidden, as after I posted some of the Frost unfinished art, it started blowing up so fast, that I actually got scared, that remaining stuff might get noticed by NRS and inspire them to take certain elements (like Tremor fanart). THAT would suck. I don't wanna see my fan fic get butchered by censorship, plain designs and Hollywood B level shit writing. (I mean to be honest my art isn't Mona Lisa pieces, so possibility is extremely low, but better be safe than sorry. Also I am very protective of what I create, so another reason why I wouldn't even think of seeing my stuff on MK)
But of course, I was wrong. Since MKX I saw that they play safe and wouldn't have the nerve to go as brutal and deep. After all. They got WB overlords on their asses. MK that pushed the limits is already dead.
My expectations are very open actually. If "HUMAN Frost" is specific to you... then I don't think you understand the sheer amount of shit you can do with that demand. I only asked for human looking Frost with her own identity. Not my version of Frost. Hell no. I would actually be mad if I saw them put my designed Frost in MK11. Put your own shit, don't ruin what is mine with your censorship and lack of understanding.
Overall, here are the things I expected from MK11.
1. New advancements, push the tech forward. (Instead got Injustice with gore)
2. Exotic character designs (Instead got the most boring plain designs, that are a mess and make no sense)
3. Interesting environments/stages. (They look pretty. But that is all. Zero creativity)
3. HUMAN Frost. How she looks, how she plays is up to NRS. (Got a Cyborg instead. Ok)
4. Working game.
I can pretty much expect it to suck technically (ON PC). Some people try to sell me this idea "But DUDE! It is on UE4! It will be easier. They won't have to deal with custom engine like UE3!". Oh yeah? Then please explain how come Injustice 2 managed to suck even more than MKX? MKX is still having online issues, while Injustice 2 is unplayable online. Not to mention. No fixes, no updates. Game is dead.
MK11 PC once again is outsourced to QLOC. They will make the port, they will add some early updates and after that you're on your own. So if something will be still f%cked up, we can forget any future updates. They dropped MKX, they dropped Injustice 2, hell even MK9 finally received a much needed patch only a WHOLE year later. It has nothing to do with game engine. It is the support that sucks balls.
Because in the end, these characters we like are Tobias', Vogel's, Boon's, Beran's, etc. (now Kittelsen's) children. Even though they are very real for us, what we really admire is their job and their minds.
In the end tell that shit to someone that applies. I have my fanfic and NRS have their "Lore" (that changes with every game). I keep them separate. I never wanna see my fanfic take part in Canon universe of MK. Ever.
I only asked for something new. Instead got MK that is stagnant. I don't care about "additional content". I play fighting games to fight, not sit in the towers and walk around Krypts. They are nice addons, but they don't make the game for me. And I don't expect anything from the story since, that childish shit in MKX. To be honest I expect nothing at this point. Hence why I am not buying. I am just observing.
In short. Just stop pestering me about Frost or why I don't like MK11. You guys talk to me, like I sit here and tell you that everything sucks and you shouldn't buy the game, cause I don't like something. No. I literally said. You like it? Awesome! Just stop selling it to me. It sucks for me personally. I (as in I. ME. One f%cking individual) don't like art direction, mechanics, and feel that game f%cking boring and stagnant. My opinion doesn't decide if game will suck for you.
For them to change my mind, MK11 has to work perfectly, no CTD's, no framedrops, GOOD servers (I mean holy shit. SFV has way better netcode, than MKX.), people would have to be able to play the game Day 1. NO EXCUSES.
As for Frost... To be honest I can't even imagine what the f$ck they would have to do, to make me even remotely interested in that abomination. I don't care about her moveset at this point. I am seriously just desinsitized from numerous disappointments, that I just don't give a shit. I was looking forward to their Frost, and... well got uninspired twist.
Also [MENTION=1754]Kandy_Man[/MENTION] (Don't wanna spam thread with numerous messages)
January... that's like nothing. Seriously? A lot of time? For a project this size?
January is like yesterday. Not to mention that leak was showing Assembly of the roster.
They don't put entire roster for "early builds". That's not how game dev works (would be massive waste of time too). The fact that most of the roster was already filled, means that the build is actually being finalized and assets are being brought together. Remember those grey placeholders with names on them? If the game is made in UE4, then it is very likely that those grey placeholders are actually trigger buttons. Once they finish setting them up, they add the pictures on top of them, so they would become interactable. They weren't there, because they were still working on characters.
But seriously enough about this entire shit. Don't worry, I am not gonna sit in this forum and whisper time from time "Oh no this game sucks". I just want to observe and drop info time from time (cause for some F%cked up reason, I get all the info in the world, yet I am not even asking for it). Even if MK11 launch were to crash and burn, I am not gonna celebrate and scream "TOLD YA". Just gonna move on.