Mortal Kombat 11 General Discussion Media Thread

I saw someone point out in a youtube video the other week, that it looked like Kung Lao might of won the first MK tournament in his time line.

Since he was wearing the same MK champion medallion Liu Kang got from Raiden in MK9, for winning the first tournament.

It's possible that when Kronika went back in time that some things changed up.
Since NRS is a subsidiary of WB it's possible that MK11 could be borrowing from The Flash's version of time travel, wherein going back in time could have consequences that may or may not have been intended by the time traveler.
In 1 of the TV episodes of the Flash, Barry going back in time means that Cisco's (Vibe's) brother dies as a consequence of time travel.
 
It was literally said in Behind the Scenes. She wants to reset everything. Like literally everything. "Rewind time back to the beginning and restart it."

Why would she do that, just for Shinnok?

I still don't believe that she is doing all of this just for Shinnok. Shao Kahn is as much a key player as Shinnok. Hell Shao Kahn is actually a better leader too. He actually acknowledges those who are loyal to him and rewards them properly. Shinnok on other hand... gives you one reward. A right to exist. So if Shinnok couldn't lead to Armageddon, then Shao Kahn could. But guess what? He is dead.

And only Shao Kahn and Shinnok could lead to this outcome. so if both are out of the picture, Kronika comes to interfere. Not to mention rewinding time back to the very beginning. So we are talking MK1 all over again. The original one that is. That means no Raiden's future warning or anything.

So yeah. If it was Shao Kahn who was killed after Shinnok, then she would have come for him.

They said she want to reset time, not go back to the old timeline. To me, they are saying they wanna rewind back to the beginning of time, start EVERYTHING again.

Now, they literally stated they're doing that just for Shinnok. Not exactly for him, but because he was key figure into something we don't know yet. I disagree Shao Kahn was a better leader, I think they were different kinds of leaders. Kahn was a ruthless, all powerful dictator that ruled out of fear, and people respected him due fear. Shinnok's loyalty is a little deeper: they fight for him because they believe in what he believes.

Now that's the question: what does Shinnok believe? They never went deep into that. It was only in MKX that they revealed he did not want to rule Earthrealm, but to poison and kill all life. And in the prologue he mentions Raiden has accepted his truth - of death - and that he cast out not out of pride, but because he mentioned this. We still don't know. Maybe it's something Kronika agrees. Maybe Shinnok has a view on life that she thinks must be the destiny of all life, and Raiden took out the only one that believes in that. Maybe he's right, maybe everything must die. She was probably respecting rules as the Elder Gods - and even Raiden - used to, but enough is enough.

Another thing: Shao Kahn and Shinnok are totally different elements into the Armageddon lore. The Armageddon is (1)kombatants growing so numerous and too powerful that they would tap into the forces that make the realms balanced and lead to its destruction; (2) Shinnok didn't invent the Armageddon, but he was the architect by fulfilling the prophecy when he spread the rumor that the Battle of Armageddon had a glorious prize, without him we still have numerous kombatants, we don't have the conflict the way it was, however; (3) Shao Kahn was merely the winner and killer of Earthrealm. If we take Kitana's ending, he was even defeated after killing Earthrealm. In the end Raiden was only protecting our realm.

In other words: Armageddon = cars/ Shinnok = Enzo Ferrari/ Shao Kahn = Michael Schumacher. Schumacher is unfortunately not a pilot anymore, but Ferrari lives on. Here, someone made something that took Ferrari out, despite having F1 cars of other genres. So, someone wants to put Ferrari back, not exactly to make Schumacher win, but for some reason we still don't know.
 
Looks like Shinnok got leaked? It is on one of Dynasty's videos. I hope it is just a typo

Unfortunately that might be a typo. I wish he was back to battle Raiden, besides, he's a key character. But I would want him to be unlockable in a sekret slot, without taking another one's chances. Specially because having him out is something necessary. I would like him back only if a twist was necessary (like "Raiden, I'm sorry, we'll have to reconnect him again and/ hello grandpa, you will help us fight Kronika/ ok guys unfortunately he will have to stay alive/ did you just say Shinnok founded the Forces of Darkness?).

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https://blog.us.playstation.com/2019/01/30/hands-on-with-mortal-kombat-11/

Something Playstation blog wrote overall about MK. I bring one interesting thing:

Time manipulation bleeds into gameplay, too. Newcomer Geras can tamper with time as part of his move set. Learn him and you’ll be able to undo damage by rewinding a few seconds, resurrect yourself or subtract seconds off the round timer. It’ll be fascinating to witness two pro-players who’ve fully come to grips with his potential.

Imagine what Kronika can make.
 
Bayo would be cool, but I don't really think she gels with MK's core audience. Her having a Sindel shader would be godlike tho
 
Anyone else wondering when they’re going to announce the 6 KP1 / DLC characters?
I’m not 100% sure, at the moment, but I could have sworn that there was a DLC trailer / tease for the MKX KP1 / DLC characters around February / March of 2015.
 
Anyone else wondering when they’re going to announce the 6 KP1 / DLC characters?
I’m not 100% sure, at the moment, but I could have sworn that there was a DLC trailer / tease for the MKX KP1 / DLC characters around February / March of 2015.

It was around mid March. I am actually excited for Dlc. I think Noob and Fujin are part of it. Hopefully we get only 2 guests not 3
 
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...uld_like_to_see_bayonetta_in_mortal_kombat_11

https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/1097832174856720389

Bayonetta's only chance being in MK11 if she is in the Switch version. I doubt WB and NRS want to go through console exclusives again.

Wrong game for her to be in. Her clothing is made of her hair and she isn't SJW friendly. And adding Burka on her won't fly with her fans. Also what kind of gear she will have? Yeah. I really doubt that will happen. Him saying that is like me saying "I would like to see MK X SF". Same effect.
 
They said she want to reset time, not go back to the old timeline. To me, they are saying they wanna rewind back to the beginning of time, start EVERYTHING again.

Now, they literally stated they're doing that just for Shinnok. Not exactly for him, but because he was key figure into something we don't know yet. I disagree Shao Kahn was a better leader, I think they were different kinds of leaders. Kahn was a ruthless, all powerful dictator that ruled out of fear, and people respected him due fear. Shinnok's loyalty is a little deeper: they fight for him because they believe in what he believes.

Now that's the question: what does Shinnok believe? They never went deep into that. It was only in MKX that they revealed he did not want to rule Earthrealm, but to poison and kill all life. And in the prologue he mentions Raiden has accepted his truth - of death - and that he cast out not out of pride, but because he mentioned this. We still don't know. Maybe it's something Kronika agrees. Maybe Shinnok has a view on life that she thinks must be the destiny of all life, and Raiden took out the only one that believes in that. Maybe he's right, maybe everything must die. She was probably respecting rules as the Elder Gods - and even Raiden - used to, but enough is enough.

Another thing: Shao Kahn and Shinnok are totally different elements into the Armageddon lore. The Armageddon is (1)kombatants growing so numerous and too powerful that they would tap into the forces that make the realms balanced and lead to its destruction; (2) Shinnok didn't invent the Armageddon, but he was the architect by fulfilling the prophecy when he spread the rumor that the Battle of Armageddon had a glorious prize, without him we still have numerous kombatants, we don't have the conflict the way it was, however; (3) Shao Kahn was merely the winner and killer of Earthrealm. If we take Kitana's ending, he was even defeated after killing Earthrealm. In the end Raiden was only protecting our realm.

In other words: Armageddon = cars/ Shinnok = Enzo Ferrari/ Shao Kahn = Michael Schumacher. Schumacher is unfortunately not a pilot anymore, but Ferrari lives on. Here, someone made something that took Ferrari out, despite having F1 cars of other genres. So, someone wants to put Ferrari back, not exactly to make Schumacher win, but for some reason we still don't know.

I... said in the very first sentence. "LITERALLY EVERYTHING" myself.

To be honest it is kinda pointless to even argue about this. Because this story has no consistency.

You're writing like everything was planned from the beginning. The story is being made with every new game. They didn't "reveal" shit about Shinnok.

MK4 Shinnok wanted revenge against Raiden for imprisoning him.
MKA Shinnok wasn't even planning the armageddon. He was as blown away by this shit, as everyone else. He just wanted the power on top of the pyramid of Argus. He wanted to rule supreme. Simple. It was cut and clear back in the day. NOW they are trying to make this complicated.
MKX simply CHANGED his goal, to killing all life and shit.

This entire thing with Kronika is nothing more, but a cheap PR stunt, that was done as a "last second thing." (Game franchise wise)
"She was behind everything!" Sounds good, IF MK lore was deep enough for that.

Not in a single Original MK game it was even mentioned that Shinnok was the key to anything or has some sort of hidden agenda. He was literally just another power hungry villain.

So yeah. What they are trying to sell here, only applies to Rebooted universe. Not the original. In Original timeline, the battle of Armageddon happened not, because Shinnok was fullfiling the Prophecy. Prophecy was actually for Daegon and Taven only. That whole pyramid was just for them. But Shinnok wanted the power, so he alerted other kombatants, so they would get in the way of Daegon or Taven (as pyramid only appeared if one of them died). His plan was for all kombatants to kill each other, while he would walk past everyone and get his prize. And his prize was clear. Rule Supreme. Not awaken One Being. Because...

This entire thing with One Being being ressurected started only in Rebooted universe. In Original timeline, One Being only stood for a legend about 6 Kamidogu and a Sacred Amulet that would grant insane power. Those 6 Kamidogu were actually rebooted in MKX as daggers.

In short... Story wise and how the story has flown Shinnok is nowhere even close to being special. But once again. MK never had any consistency so if they decided to claim that Kronika is taking special care of Shinnok (though never seen a claim like that, I only seen claims that could be easily understood as Shinnok being the last straw for Kronika, not some sort of key player) then... ok.
But that just proves my point again. If you don't have a set lore, you get shit like this. They already changed a lot of things from original MK, so this entire "Kronika was behind everything" is the same as revealing Joker's name and origins in DC Comics. Yeah cool. His name is John and he had a wife, but if I go 5 series back, I can show you, that you're full of shit. Same with MK.

So in the end of the day. Let's agree to disagree on everything.

EDIT: Actually there was this one guy trying to pull shit like this with Captain America. Made him into a sleeper Hydra Agent. Writer even tried to defend that shit, by saying that if you look closely in the beginning of Captain America series, you can see the signs. Pretty fast, people showed him that he was full of shit, and Marvel went with "it was an alternate Captain Rogers" road to fix the mess.
 
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Looks like Shinnok got leaked? It is on one of Dynasty's videos. I hope it is just a typo

I saw BruskPoet's video on this, and he said to take it with a pinch of salt.

The image above the Shinnok caption shows Sub-Zero, not Shinnok, and Shinnok looks very much like an NPC rather than a full-quality playable character render (like Raiden) in the intro. I also think it'd be weird having Shinnok in, as he may detract somewhat from Kronika being the main villain - although of course it depends on exactly how the storyline plays out.

I mean he could be playable, but I really don't think he is. No one should get their hopes up over Shinnok being on the roster.
 
It was around mid March. I am actually excited for Dlc. I think Noob and Fujin are part of it. Hopefully we get only 2 guests not 3

Even though all of the main roster isn’t completely revealed and there are 2 or 3 spots left, I still think that Reptile and Noob will either be on the main roster or unlockable characters.
I do think that Fujin will be DLC, though.
 
Wrong game for her to be in. Her clothing is made of her hair and she isn't SJW friendly. And adding Burka on her won't fly with her fans. Also what kind of gear she will have? Yeah. I really doubt that will happen. Him saying that is like me saying "I would like to see MK X SF". Same effect.

You can already say that MK is not SJW friendly given how violent the series. The sterotypical SJWs on the Internet seem to hate anything that is not family friendly.
 
You can already say that MK is not SJW friendly given how violent the series. The sterotypical SJWs on the Internet seem to hate anything that is not family friendly.
You'd be surprised at what kind of frivolous lawsuits were filed as a result of MK. Back in approximately 97, this one soccer mom's son was put in a headlock and stabbed in the chest. She not only blamed Mortal Kombat for it, but also had the audacity to claim that Cyrax had a Fatality identical to what happened to her son. For the record, the only MK games featuring Cyrax at the time were MK3 and its updates, UMK3 and MKT. Do either of these Fatalities look like grabbing someone in a headlock and stabbing him/her in the chest?



No wonder that Cyrax chest stabbing lawsuit was thrown out of court.

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Even though all of the main roster isn’t completely revealed and there are 2 or 3 spots left, I still think that Reptile and Noob will either be on the main roster or unlockable characters.
I do think that Fujin will be DLC, though.

We get a Ninja character for DLC in MK9 and MKX. I feel like MK11 will probably do the same with another Ninja character which could be Reptile assumsing that he is not in the main roster.
 
Even though all of the main roster isn’t completely revealed and there are 2 or 3 spots left, I still think that Reptile and Noob will either be on the main roster or unlockable characters.
I do think that Fujin will be DLC, though.

If you think about it, it makes sense to have Noob as the selling point of the DLC because honestly who isn't gonna buy Noob
 
If you think about it, it makes sense to have Noob as the selling point of the DLC because honestly who isn't gonna buy Noob

Noob won't be DLC. He's almost certainly unlockable - there's even an image of him on a countdown timer on one of the Towers of Time.
 
If you think about it, it makes sense to have Noob as the selling point of the DLC because honestly who isn't gonna buy Noob

In all honesty, I think people would be angry more if Noob was a DLC character over Fujin.
Not many complained that Tanya and Bo Rai Cho were DLC (aside from cosmetic reasons for Tanya), but Triborg was out in and people got Sektor, Cyrax and Smoke in that way, and yet people still complained that “X klassic character wasn’t DLC.”
As much as I think Trilogy characters would sell more than 3D era characters as DLC, by the same token people would also be pissed that their favorite klassic didn’t make it.
I. E. - MKX Baraka, Kabal, Noob, Rain and Sindel.
 
I just want Liu Kang to get some shine again in Story Mode he’s been taking losses since mk9
It would be cool if the human Liu Kang we see is the OG four time MK champion or even the shaolin monks Liu that I’ve heard people mentioning
 
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