MK11's new hero (protagonist)?

If the main character HAS to be one of the four kids, then the writers need to work on changing one of their personalities a bit before I can really take any of them seriously as a main. Granted, I get it makes sense for Cassie to be snarky like her father, but I felt like ALL four of them had that same snarky, sarcastic, try to crack jokes in every other line said attitude, and that was getting on my nerves a bit.

Hopefully after the events of MKX, these kids realize they are in the real world and can't exactly treat everything as one big joke. Don't get me wrong. It's not like I don't like the characters; it's just that if MKX was supposed to start moving the franchise into a more serious dark tone atmosphere, I can't take the designated "main character" seriously if their attitude doesn't mesh with the more, supposedly, serious dark tone.

Again, if the main character HAS to be from the SF snarky bunch, I would like at least ONE of them to have a personality that shifts towards something a bit more mature.
 
Only Kung Jin and Cassie were really the snarks of the Young Special Forces. Both Jacqui and Takeda were much on the serious side. I honestly think their personalities is fine, but I definitely see where you're coming from. I too am hoping for KM11 to be more on the gritty side of things. Course I don't want characters like Cassie to lose her sense of humor nor Kung Jin to lose his c.o.c.k. - ness

P.S.: I did not know the "C" word was prohibited on this forum
 
p.W said:
You might think so, but you'd be wrong. The only games in the entire franchise to feature a tournament are 1, 2, and the 1 and 2 portions of MK9. That's less than one out of three.

No Mortal Kombat tournament has revolved around a blonde white teen, and statistically speaking, no Mortal Kombat tournament is likely to revolve around one any time soon. If that's all the beef you got with Cassie, you can rest easy.
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Which is my problem. If you're going to do a leap in time story, then why not jump directly to the next tournament. Shinnok was a horrendous villain. His story could have and should have been featured in the comic.
 
I don't see why people have an issue with Cassie's personality.
She's essentially Johnny Cage part 2, and Johnny Cage was 1 of the surviving heroes of MK9.
The only reason why people are hating on her is because she's not 1 of the "Original 7" protagonist, and people need to seriously get the fvck over it.
The torch has now passed to Cassie, and I have no issue with it.
If you want the original MK Trilogy protagonists, go play MK9.
As [MENTION=18661]p.W[/MENTION] said, MK hasn't had anything to do with tournaments since after MKII, and after that it's been "invasion" this and "threat to EarthRealm" that.
Given that Cassie is a Special Forces member who is part of a team that defends EarthRealm from threats, I have no issue with her being a new lead for MK11.
Also, technically speaking, Raiden has always been the ReathRealm protector and he's gone all "dark" and "brutal," so it seems like he will lead the way again in MK11.
 
BBBLP said:
Which is my problem. If you're going to do a leap in time story, then why not jump directly to the next tournament. Shinnok was a horrendous villain. His story could have and should have been featured in the comic.
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I absolutely get the appeal of tournaments, and what's more, I think that we're still waiting on the true MK game tournament experience. MK9 was just a craptastic teaser compared to what we're going to get, one of these years.

That said, all tournaments all the time isn't true to the epic scope that MK has taken on over the last two decades. And even disregarding that, it's simply not easy to keep coming up with new excuses for brand new tournaments featuring the same (or roughly the same) cast of characters over and over.

If NRS decided to do a "one game with tournament, one game without tournament" rotation, I'd be very fine with that.
 
TehPredator said:
Any other special forces brats wouldve been better.
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Not really.
Even if Cassie, Jin, Takeda and Jacqui weren't in ant it was another set of 4 "Special Forces brats," people (not necessarily you, per se) likely would have still complained that "Boo-hoo, a Special Forces kid took out Shinnok."
The problem is that, no matter what, unless it's an "Original 7" character, MKII character or MK3 character that takes the big bad guy out or eliminates the big threat, people will always find a reason to b***** and complain.
The thing with that is, though, that if the same characters are taking out the same bad guys, game after game, then the story goes nowhere and we start to get the same repeated story with the same repeated characters.
People need to learn to move on, hard as that may be for some.
 
Commander said:
Not really.
Even if Cassie, Jin, Takeda and Jacqui weren't in ant it was another set of 4 "Special Forces brats," people (not necessarily you, per se) likely would have still complained that "Boo-hoo, a Special Forces kid took out Shinnok."
The problem is that, no matter what, unless it's an "Original 7" character, MKII character or MK3 character that takes the big bad guy out or eliminates the big threat, people will always find a reason to b***** and complain.
The thing with that is, though, that if the same characters are taking out the same bad guys, game after game, then the story goes nowhere and we start to get the same repeated story with the same repeated characters.
People need to learn to move on, hard as that may be for some.
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No, people need to learn that veterans outprioritize rookies, and that rookies need to EARN their place over a lengthy period of time.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
No, people neex to learn that veterans outprioritize rookies, and that rookies neex to EARN their place over a lengthy period of time.
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How the hell do you propose that those rookies get to earn their place, then, if they don't take down the bad guy or get a chance to shine?

You've proposed an oxymoron.
You want the rookies to earn their spot, but you're not even giving them a chance to do that?
Ok. :bird: :reddy: :shot:
 
Commander said:
How the hell do you propose that those rookies get to earn their place, then, if they don't take down the bad guy or get a chance to shine?

You've proposed an oxymoron.
You want the rookies to earn their spot, but you're not even giving them a chance to do that?
Ok. :bird: :reddy: :shot:
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They need to prove their worth to the fans over at least 2 games, preferably 3.

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Yes, we get it already, Cassie isn't that likable to many. Oh well, boo hoo, get over it. It's the same old discussion, same posts are being brought up and many are too thick to understand that she, with three others, are most likely going to continue their roles as the main protagonists.

Will Netherrealm give them better personalities for the next game? Most likely. They're young adults. Young adults still act bratty and snotty. They gave them matching personalities for this game and it worked. If they're going to continue the route of aging their characters, then their personalities will mature over time. They don't have to completely change entirely, Cassie can still act like the snot, but it's not like she would be constantly acting like that if they decide to "mature" her up a bit.

This constant Cassie whining is starting to get annoying.
 
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Personally, I don't mind the torch being passed down to Cassie. And it makes the most sense for her to have the kind of attitude she has given she's Johnny's kid. Now, I do think that she should had a bit more build up in order to become one with her role as main protagonist. I would have preferred there were more references to her inherited power from warriors that could challenge the gods - like, as the story progressed it would have been nice to see her slowly awakening to the powers in little foreshadowing spurts. But, I do believe one of the reasons why this wasn't fleshed out as much as I personally would have liked is due to the character specific chapter format (different discussion).

In all honestly there was a bit of a cheap feeling with her defeating Shinnok, but whatever, I can live with it.

Anyways, I do still think there needs to be a little bit more maturity in her personality to solidify her main protagonist standing. She doesn't need a complete 180 degree shift in personality; it's part of her charm to be snarky like her Dad. But, just a bit of added maturity will really make her shine as a true heroine in my eyes.
 
Commander said:
Not really.
Even if Cassie, Jin, Takeda and Jacqui weren't in ant it was another set of 4 "Special Forces brats," people (not necessarily you, per se) likely would have still complained that "Boo-hoo, a Special Forces kid took out Shinnok."
The problem is that, no matter what, unless it's an "Original 7" character, MKII character or MK3 character that takes the big bad guy out or eliminates the big threat, people will always find a reason to b***** and complain.
The thing with that is, though, that if the same characters are taking out the same bad guys, game after game, then the story goes nowhere and we start to get the same repeated story with the same repeated characters.
People need to learn to move on, hard as that may be for some.
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I have no complaints with any new characters, not even cassie. What im complaining about is how cassie is the protagonist. I agree with the post above this one. Sorry if you were interpreting my thoughts in the wrong way, my mistake. The post above mine is what my thoughts are on Cassie.
 
TehPredator said:
I have no complaints with any new characters, not even cassie. What im complaining about is how cassie is the protagonist. I agree with the post above this one. Sorry if you were interpreting my thoughts in the wrong way, my mistake. The post above mine is what my thoughts are on Cassie.
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If you don't have any complaints about Cassie, then why do you keep repeating the whole issue of her being a protagonist then? You basically just contradicted yourself.

You clearly have a problem with Cassie as I have yet to see why you dislike her so much that you constantly mention her in a lot of these threads. Why is she such a "terrible protagonist" to you that you think even Shujinko is better than she is?
 
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Tarkatan Trash said:
Remind me again who trained the man who snapped Outworld's winning streak at the last possible opportunity?

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Bo' Rai Cho. What's your point? His role in the story is still tiny.He was mentioned like once or twice in MK9 and had a small cameo in MKX, ending with him getting blasted by Shinnok's amulet. He's not important to the story any more. He was only relevant in that at some point in time, he trained a few characters. He's completely pointless now. He's a fat drunk who was easily bested by Shinnok.
 
Ricochetmatt said:
Bo' Rai Cho. What's your point? His role in the story is still tiny.He was mentioned like once or twice in MK9 and had a small cameo in MKX, ending with him getting blasted by Shinnok's amulet. He's not important to the story any more. He was only relevant in that at some point in time, he trained a few characters. He's completely pointless now. He's a fat drunk who was easily bested by Shinnok.
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He contributed to the outcome of a major tournament. How that is considered "minor" is beyond me.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
He contributed to the outcome of a major tournament. How that is considered "minor" is beyond me.
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Because of this, essentially......

Ricochetmatt said:
had a small cameo in MKX, ending with him getting blasted by Shinnok's amulet. He's not important to the story any more. He was only relevant in that at some point in time, he trained a few characters. He's completely pointless now. He's a fat drunk who was easily bested by Shinnok.
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He may have had a big part in the old timeline, but this is an alternate timeline, and in this timline he's pointless.
MKX further proved that point by how easily NRS decided to dispose of him in story mode.
 
Cassie should be a supporting protagonist. She just isn't interesting enough to take the spotlight, her team included. With the exception of Takeda.

Liu Kang may have had no personality, but what he was is what made him so compelling. He was an unstoppable entity of skill and power. Essentially the Shao Kahn of Earthrealm in terms of noteriety, he was the last dude you wanted to mess with. From MK1-3 he completely rooked anyone that stepped to him.

Whereas Cassie seems like she's nothing but lucky.
 
Cassie hasn't been given that chance, though.
Cassie has literally debuted in only 1 game, whereas Liu Kang got that notoriety over the course of the last 7 MK-canon games in the old timeline.
That's not really a fair comparison.
You can't expect these heroes to really shine if no one gives them a chance.
Quan Chi and Kenshi got the chance over the years to be proven to the fans, and it wasn't until MK9 that I cared for either of them.
Shinnok felt like a non-threatening clown in MK4 - Armageddon, and it wasn't until MKX when he was released from the amulet and became Corrpted Shinnok (essentially Satan) that I was actually like "Wow. EarthRealm is f***ed if this dude isn't stopped."
 
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