Ok we need to talk about the lack of female characters!

Have you guys seen this picture Boon just posted on his twitter to tease about the video he's going to share tomorrow?! It looks like Kitana's fan. I'm really hoping its her, can't wait to see it

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I dont think it a fan.
I looks like it could be Kung Lao's Hat
Damn pretty ruffed up Kano, Hands kut off head sliced and Glasgow smile...
DAMN POOR KANO!!!!
 
I dont think it a fan.
I looks like it could be Kung Lao's Hat
Damn pretty ruffed up Kano, Hands kut off head sliced and Glasgow smile...
DAMN POOR KANO!!!!

someone posted a picture with high brightness levels. It isn't a hat. I also made the same mistake :D. It does actually look like a fan.
 
I apologize for this. I reread your post and can't explain how I found "don't like it, don't play it". Maybe mixed it up with another forum message. Sorry for idiotic slip. I take that one back.



Oh boo hoo. Artists spent countless of hours on making female characters which barely wear anything. That EVIL BASTARD MISUCRA! How DARES he to hurt the feelings of those artists for not liking their designs! HE SHOULD DIE AND BURN IN HELL!
Maybe I should write same shit to all my haters who send me weekly messages to my inbox with messages that I should die or watch my back, as I hate sexy themes and make all my females properly armored or just give them more brutal appearance, instead of giving them bikini and puppy eyes while they sit on a goddamn sunny beach with ice cream dripping from their breasts.

Yeah OK! Guess who bought the game for my PC? ME! Guess who plays it? ME! Guess who watched in pain when he saw his main character become into a stripper? ME!. Did I force my mods on anyone? NO! Do I have the right to DISLIKE other artist work and make my own version for MYSELF? YES. If someone doesn't like other people hating their work, then they shouldn't make it public in the first place. If someone made changes in my game to fit their own style. Ok. It would just show that someone really didn't like it and I would just take it as criticism and use it for improvement.

Can't believe I am talking with artist here.

If those artists got offended by my personal decision to mod their characters to fit my taste a bit more, then they are not artists. Normal artist would take that as an example, not as a goddamn insult.

I work for many hours myself, usually get sleepless nights. Draw and model things all by myself, so if I don't b%tch about shit like that, I don't believe that more mature artists get "offended" by that either.

You don't say! I am a fan of a goddamn game! I am a fan of Mortal Kombat! Of that fictional brutal world!

The very least I am thankful to all artists and other people who make it happen, but I am not gonna be a blind fan who will just nod his head and eat everything he gets.

If I don't like something in game, they won't change it specifically for me as I am a f#$king nobody (nor I wish for them to change things to someone's individual tastes). So I just change things myself if I can.

If you want to be my arch rival then you will have to work in porn industry as they are my only enemies.
So in this case I honestly wish you luck in getting Blizzard to hire you

MK9 was that kind of game. I wouldn't change shit in previous installments. And MKX shows no signs of needing for any modding. It looks awesome as it is. But if they gonna add some half naked oversexualized girl again, then yeah you can bet your ass I will mod that. Hell I might mod game later to make different skins, but not change original model itself. You know just to have more outfits.

Love was never an option for me. Loyalty would be better word to say. And they broke my loyalty few times already. Year long trolling about MK9. Then oversexualized females and mr.universes in game and since then, that just increased the number of ignorant people who tell me that Mortal Kombat fame rises from half naked chicks dancing on poles.

They broke my personal loyalty, so don't expect to see me on my knees thanking them.

I feel like I should just stop arguing with you, if this is the maturity level you're going to talk back to me and basically shit down how I look at things. I find a problem with mods, yes. Does that warrant a 23 year old to act like they're twelve about it? No. Grow up.

You have an obvious problem with sexuality in this game, I don't. That's your opinion, and it's good that you stick to your opinions. I'll stick to mine. Not everyone has a problem with the stuff you have a problem with. And sometimes, responses like these are the reason why I write to people to "suck it up" or "don't like it, don't play it." You're on a damn fan forum that most likely gets ignored by the actual developers. And if they do happen to read any of the complaints on here, man god bless them if they can make it through some times. Some of the complaints I have read these past few months are ridiculous. And quite honestly, I can't figure out how they're fans of the series as long as they claim they have been.

The amount of butthurt that I had read in this thread, that was really supposed to be talking about the lack of females, was a bit too much for something so minuscule. Honestly, is it that big of a problem to be this upset about some fictional character's outfit, who most of the characters are technically aliens, such as Kitana, Quan Chi to name a few? A game that is seriously showcasing fantasized elements... Do the developers really need to sit down and take a class on how to create characters that YOU deem tasteful? How they really need to be created? No. This is their game. If fans really are that touchy, then honestly, I don't know what to say other than either suck it up and deal with it, or just don't play as them. There's really no other answer I can figure out in giving to you or to anyone else for this situation because I don't have a problem with this. It's fantasy, there comes a time where you might have to just go with the flow at times with their choice of outfits and body builders because that's just what it is. A game, a fantasy, something that is never going to be real.

I feel like if I were to make a poll in asking what do you care for, I'd like to see if "having characters wear respectable clothing" would be the top vote. And since this topic hardly comes up a lot on other forums I go on, I can probably assume the answer would be a "no."

Your views on artists should be okay for someone to actually take one's work, have it doodled and sketched and changed, and have it be claimed as "criticism." I find that to be one of the most ridiculous things ever to come from someone who says they're an artist. I've gone to private art universities and I've never once had a professor say that or have done that. And these guys ARE professionals. From animators who have worked in the big industry and done movies like Titanic, Space Jam, hell, even former Midway employees, not a single person has told me that they should be able to draw on my sketches, or remodel my models because it's their way of critiquing. And yeah, I'm going to brag the crap out of what these guys have done, because they're professionals, I have been lectured by professionals. So I think I have some right in saying how I view on what kind of stuff I see that artists should do and be like. Not to mention, I have had someone draw on my own work as a critique and they ruined my piece.

So yeah, I'm not going to agree with you at all on that. Not. One. Bit. So, let's stop arguing about how you view artists and I'll stop arguing as well. I've had a debate about this with another user on a different forum and let's just say, there were things that were said that I don't regret. I don't want to head in that route because I kinda like you as a user because you're a Frost fan.



Basically, in conclusion, you don't want an over sexualized Mortal Kombat. I've never seen them be THAT sexualized other than making that be just Mileena's personality. Their fantisized creations of a 3D Mortal Kombat cast is yeah, a little too much, and I wouldn't mind for some realistic body tones and such. But in the end, I don't see nor do I have a goddamn issue with something so minuscule. Something that is not going to distract the crap out of me when I'm fighting random people online or streaming my game play on Twitch. In the end, I see this as a game, a game that I care about, but not going to cry a river because a few characters have some outfit issues that should be fixed. It is THEIR choice on what they do with THEIR game. A bunch of people complaining on Facebook or Twitter to Boon is most likely not going to raise an eyebrow. In the end, it's their game. They will continue doing what they've been doing. Something they think fans will invest their sixty bucks into. Something I'll definitely be getting into because everything that they have released so far for X has been freaking awesome and I'm fan girling the crap out of it.

The thing I deeply care about are issues that should be fixed, such as Cassie's neck (it's still a bit long) making sure hair animation flows better than what it did in 2011. Cloth animation that doesn't cut into the character's body when moved. Things like that.

I'm just going to say, let's just agree to disagree on this. Because I really don't feel like typing all this stuff again to make points that obviously you're never going to agree with, and vice versa with your points. So yeah.
 
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Guy, breathe.

We all love MK here. I know exactly where you're coming from with your passion, as I was able to be lucky enough to utilize that passion to get a position on the team of one of my favorite games (no, not MK). Passion is great, but there's a point where you need to step back and just accept that some things are out of our control.

Whether we're "just fans", whether we're an elite group of idiots who signed up for a message board to talk about a fictional universe, it's all irrelevant.

What we do know: There's no way that NRS hasn't received the feedback, through playtests or social media, regarding the lack of female characters and/or the way that people would like female characters to be portrayed. It's not just Ed Boon making decisions though, so that's something to keep in mind.

If it's like any other gaming company, multiple people have a stake in the game's art and overall demeanor. Art team, marketing team, designers, etc. all have the ability to shape the product. While your $60 is important, they have to appeal to the audience that will get them the most $60, not just yours. I don't feel like that's necessarily an approach that I like, but it's what I've learned over my time in the industry and as a fan of gaming since I could hold a controller.

I'm saying this as a completely neutral party -- I don't know you, you don't know me. I want the characters to be represented in a realistic, respectful way too, but the definition of realistic and respectful blurs when the topic of discussion is a video game that sells itself on excess in all phases -- not just violence. Doesn't make it right, and there have been a few too many line-crossing moments for me (Challenge Tower reward, etc.), but at the end of the day that's what it is.

I hope that in time, with many character reveals to come, you will be able to feel comfortable enough spending your money and continue supporting the product. I know EXACTLY how you feel regarding seeing your most beloved character turn into a parody, as I've had to sit idly by and watch Reptile become a shell of the potential I feel he has as a character (both image, and importance). It sucks. Hard.

Until then, try to look at things not so personally. I agree and respect that you should absolutely care for something you invest so much time in. You just can't allow it to affect you as much as your post alluded to, because beyond all else it was concerning to read and I care more about the human being behind the screen than the debate in the thread title.

Sorry if off-topic, mods.
 
Eh... this thread has been off-topic for pages now.

But I'd like to bring up a point you made about how "It's not just Ed Boon making decisions."

Users like you I definitely appreciate because I've encountered some users who really are not trolls, who constantly think that Boon is the "I" in Team. Like, he's Trent Reznor in Nine Inch Nails. In this situation, we don't know all of the developers in Netherrealm Studios, just Boon (of course there are others who we have seen, but humor me here and let's just say it's Boon that we've only seen).

With Nine Inch Nails, you have Trent Reznor. You don't know the band mates behind the scenes, just Trent. Basically, Boon is Trent. And that's something that always bothers me. He's not really the guy that makes the decisions, he's got the team to do that. But for some reason, he's the go-to guy when someone needs to be blamed for something.

It's truly sad and silly to see people just blame Boon for everything and not the team. I think there really are people out there that thinks Netherrealm Studios is just Ed Boon and his amazing eyebrows.
 
Eh... this thread has been off-topic for pages now.

But I'd like to bring up a point you made about how "It's not just Ed Boon making decisions."

Users like you I definitely appreciate because I've encountered some users who really are not trolls, who constantly think that Boon is the "I" in Team. Like, he's Trent Reznor in Nine Inch Nails. In this situation, we don't know all of the developers in Netherrealm Studios, just Boon (of course there are others who we have seen, but humor me here and let's just say it's Boon that we've only seen).

With Nine Inch Nails, you have Trent Reznor. You don't know the band mates behind the scenes, just Trent. Basically, Boon is Trent. And that's something that always bothers me. He's not really the guy that makes the decisions, he's got the team to do that. But for some reason, he's the go-to guy when someone needs to be blamed for something.

It's truly sad and silly to see people just blame Boon for everything and not the team. I think there really are people out there that thinks Netherrealm Studios is just Ed Boon and his amazing eyebrows.

Comes with the territory of being the visual leader from an outreach perspective. Sure, Beran and the others do interviews occasionally (and NRS does have a comms team/social media coordinator of their own) but nobody else at NRS has really come out and allowed the interaction to happen (at least not to my knowledge, but I'm not hawking these guys on Twitter) other than that. Hector's long gone.

Though to be fair, if this is how out of hand a topic that could be handled relatively peacefully gets, can you REALLY blame them for not wanting to walk into that fire? We all know that Boon gets thousands of garbage feedback tweets for every one legitimate thing someone brings up.

There's also the more realistic reason, that some people just don't want to talk about their job all day, no less to strange people who judge you for things that there's a good chance you had no involvement in.
 
I feel like I should just stop arguing with you, if this is the maturity level you're going to talk back to me and basically shit down how I look at things. I find a problem with mods, yes. Does that warrant a 23 year old to act like they're twelve about it? No. Grow up.

You have an obvious problem with sexuality in this game, I don't. That's your opinion, and it's good that you stick to your opinions. I'll stick to mine. Not everyone has a problem with the stuff you have a problem with. And sometimes, responses like these are the reason why I write to people to "suck it up" or "don't like it, don't play it." You're on a damn fan forum that most likely gets ignored by the actual developers. And if they do happen to read any of the complaints on here, man god bless them if they can make it through some times. Some of the complaints I have read these past few months are ridiculous. And quite honestly, I can't figure out how they're fans of the series as long as they claim they have been.

The amount of butthurt that I had read in this thread, that was really supposed to be talking about the lack of females, was a bit too much for something so minuscule. Honestly, is it that big of a problem to be this upset about some fictional character's outfit, who most of the characters are technically aliens, such as Kitana, Quan Chi to name a few? A game that is seriously showcasing fantasized elements... Do the developers really need to sit down and take a class on how to create characters that YOU deem tasteful? How they really need to be created?

I feel like if I were to make a poll in asking what do you care for, I'd like to see if "having characters wear respectable clothing" would be the top vote. And since this topic hardly comes up a lot on other forums I go on, I can probably assume the answer would be a "no."

Your views on artists should be okay for someone to actually take one's work, have it doodled and sketched and changed, and have it be claimed as "criticism." I find that to be one of the most ridiculous things ever to come from someone who says they're an artist. I've gone to private art universities and I've never once had a professor say that or have done that. And these guys ARE professionals. From animators who have worked in the big industry and done movies like Titanic, Space Jam, hell, even former Midway employees, not a single person has told me that they should be able to draw on my sketches, or remodel my models because it's their way of critiquing. And yeah, I'm going to brag the crap out of what these guys have done, because they're professionals, I have been lectured by professionals. So I think I have some right in saying how I view on what kind of stuff I see that artists should do and be like. Not to mention, I have had someone draw on my own work as a critique and they ruined my piece.

So yeah, I'm not going to agree with you at all on that. Not. One. Bit.



Basically, in conclusion, you don't want an over sexualized Mortal Kombat. I've never seen them be THAT sexualized other than making that be just Mileena's personality. Their fantisized creations of a 3D Mortal Kombat cast is yeah, a little too much, and I wouldn't mind for some realistic body tones and such. But in the end, I don't see nor do I have a goddamn issue with something so minuscule. Something that is not going to distract the crap out of me when I'm fighting random people online or streaming my game play on Twitch. In the end, I see this as a game, a game that I care about, but not going to cry a river because a few characters have some outfit issues that should be fixed.

The thing I deeply care about are issues that should be fixed, such as Cassie's neck (it's still a bit long) making sure hair animation flows better than what it did in 2011. Cloth animation that doesn't cut into the character's body when moved. Things like that.

I'm just going to say, let's just agree to disagree on this. Because I really don't feel like typing all this stuff again to make points that obviously you're never going to agree with, and vice versa with your points. So yeah.

I will shorten your entire post into this. You have your opinion I have mine. This entire discussion was about that. And only that. Sharing opinions. Did I force my opinion on you? No. Did I say you're 12 years old for a way you were stating your opinion? No. My entire line of post here are just my opinion and counter messages to yours. But does that make your opinion invalid? No. Didn't say that. You don't see a problem in that subject and I see it. I made mistake in one my posts and said sorry. Even so my style of writing is pretty much based on anger as that is just me. I am not angry on you nor I hate you, nor I wish to insult you. (apart that "special" crap you gave me, my opinion is still the same)

Of course I can't agree with your points as they are opposite to mine. What did you expect? If there were things I would agree with you or found a flaw in my opinion then yeah. No problem. I will apologize and just correct my mistake.

As for art pieces. Well good for you I never went to private universities of art (or any university at all) nor had professional teachers giving their wisdom to me. I had few highschool teachers there art lessons weren't even taken seriously, even so they were pretty good teachers.
You simply missed the point of what I was saying. I wouldn't doodle on a picture made by another artist. I wouldn't go to museum and suddenly start changing something, because I didn't like (at least what are you implying) Hell if I don't like some hentai picture I won't cover it with clothes. Most likely I will redraw that hentai character with more proper clothing and fighting off that beast in some badass manner. And of course the way you imply, i would be insulting that artist by making my version of his character. Shit by that logic all fanart is an insult. If someone draws manga character wearing red jacket instead of his blue jacket and kissing some random guy, that would be an insult to original author. If that is not what you meant then please be more precise, because IN MY FREAKING NOT SPECIAL AND BELOW AVERAGE OPINION I think it is bullshit.
Even so I bought a game. I was talking about a video game. It is mine now. I gave a shot for original characters and didn't like it. So what I am supposed to do? I hate high heels insanely it makes me feel sick, make up, and that clothing. I can't just play it like that. So what the f%^k I am supposed to do then? Not play those characters? But I want to play them. Then what? Try to force myself? Yeah I bought the game to force myself to play it. Well if that doesn't work maybe I should just write and whine to developers who made that? Tell them it sucks or something? Cry like a b%tch and direclty insult them? No, I will just modify those characters to suit me better. And if that will insult artists that I didn't like half naked girl design they made. Well so be it. I am sorry I didn't like particular model designs to the point I spent hours modding them. I am sorry I have a different taste. I am sorry I make changes to the game I OWN. I am sorry I have a freaking opinion and different views. I am truly sorry for insulting anyone with my "difference".

The thing I deeply care about are issues that should be fixed, such as Cassie's neck (it's still a bit long) making sure hair animation flows better than what it did in 2011. Cloth animation that doesn't cut into the character's body when moved. Things like that.

Last time I checked this thread wasn't about technical issues. But hey I also hope PC will have proper online, won't have everything unlocked, animations will be more smooth. I have tons of different things I care about MKX. But this thread isn't about that.
 
Guy, breathe.

We all love MK here. I know exactly where you're coming from with your passion, as I was able to be lucky enough to utilize that passion to get a position on the team of one of my favorite games (no, not MK). Passion is great, but there's a point where you need to step back and just accept that some things are out of our control.

Whether we're "just fans", whether we're an elite group of idiots who signed up for a message board to talk about a fictional universe, it's all irrelevant.

What we do know: There's no way that NRS hasn't received the feedback, through playtests or social media, regarding the lack of female characters and/or the way that people would like female characters to be portrayed. It's not just Ed Boon making decisions though, so that's something to keep in mind.

If it's like any other gaming company, multiple people have a stake in the game's art and overall demeanor. Art team, marketing team, designers, etc. all have the ability to shape the product. While your $60 is important, they have to appeal to the audience that will get them the most $60, not just yours. I don't feel like that's necessarily an approach that I like, but it's what I've learned over my time in the industry and as a fan of gaming since I could hold a controller.

I'm saying this as a completely neutral party -- I don't know you, you don't know me. I want the characters to be represented in a realistic, respectful way too, but the definition of realistic and respectful blurs when the topic of discussion is a video game that sells itself on excess in all phases -- not just violence. Doesn't make it right, and there have been a few too many line-crossing moments for me (Challenge Tower reward, etc.), but at the end of the day that's what it is.

I hope that in time, with many character reveals to come, you will be able to feel comfortable enough spending your money and continue supporting the product. I know EXACTLY how you feel regarding seeing your most beloved character turn into a parody, as I've had to sit idly by and watch Reptile become a shell of the potential I feel he has as a character (both image, and importance). It sucks. Hard.

Until then, try to look at things not so personally. I agree and respect that you should absolutely care for something you invest so much time in. You just can't allow it to affect you as much as your post alluded to, because beyond all else it was concerning to read and I care more about the human being behind the screen than the debate in the thread title.

Sorry if off-topic, mods.

Sigh... man. Before I write anything I will just give a warning. I don't think of you bad, nor I hate you, nor I feel angry with you nor I want to be treated as a special fan or anything like that. Just in case as some people don't either read my posts or try to find some ulterior shit I am supposed to have. I just have lots of anger in my writing style. Doesn't mean I hate you.

First of all. Like in many previous posts I wrote here and holy shit that's a lot of them. I don't consider myself as a guy who can control decisions. As I said I WISH, PRAY, HOPE for MKX to be that game I wish for. I only said that A GROUP of fans can influence to CERTAIN DEGREE, CERTAIN GAME DECISIONS. That's all. Again. I am a single guy here who just states his miserable opinion. I am not forcing my point of view on anyone. PLEASE READ.
Kitty_55 wrote that she doesn't care nor sees difference in this matter. I said my opinion that I care. So if someone wants to play victim game here, I am f%cking out.


My stand on this matter.

I wish for characters to look better.
I hope they will look better than they did in MK9.
I am a simple freaking fan who has no power over anything. I just want one proper game (because I want doesn't mean it will happen, yes I know, but I have the right to WANT, WISH, HOPE FOR)

Also I don't take anything personal. Not even someone calling me 12 just because they don't like my style of writing.

Also I am fully aware that Boon and his team aren't the only ones making decisions. Even so i can HOPE, WISH, PRAY ffs.

But you know what whatever. If someone takes an insult that I wish for something so be it.
 
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Please keep in mind, this is just my point of view:

I have expressed this before, about the whole sexualization of female characters. I don't mind that to happen to some of them, as long it is within respectable reason. The Edenian girls, such as Kitana, Jade, Tanya and Sindel have always had that beautiful, sexual and strong aura about them, dressed in leotards and thigh-high boots and shown cleavage etc., so with those it makes sense, however, it can get TOO scantly clad, like in MK9. They can look sexy without being 90% naked.

Then there's the situation with Mileena. She is apparently supposed to be a very hypersexual character, so it would make even more sense for her to show alot more skin than the rest of the female characters. So it makes sense for her to be scantly clad, however, again within reason. This IS still a fighting game, not a porn simulator. I wouldn't want to see Mileena dressed in a thin string of cloth only wrapped around her private parts. It didn't even look cool.

It wouldn't make sense for Sonya to dress up with her boobs out and wearing high heels. She's a US military representant. Her MKDA (both main and alt) and her MKvsDCU outfits looked alot better than her MK9 one. And I think Cassie dress the part as well, so I'm happy with that.

Then there's the monster girls... Sheeva looked alot cooler in MKA than in MK9, imo. She actually looked like a monster, a real Shokan warrior, rather than a skinny b****h with four arms. And she rocked the V-bikini alot better in MK3 than in MK9. D'vorah looks awesome, still scantly clad, but within reason. However, due to her overall looks, she is actually one of the few characters that could be all in the nude without it being offensive, as long you didn't actually see anything. She's an insectoid, so as long there aren't any nipples or vagina showing, there wouldn't actually be a problem. I'm glad she wears a costume though, because I would rather have a cool-looking costumed character than someone just running around naked. It's just boring.

I actually have that attitude overall. Would much rather see a cool-looking costume on a character, than nudity, practicality or realism, to be honest.
I guess that is one of the reasons I like the Edenian girls so much, because they dress to impress rather than to protect themselves or to be as nude as possible without actually being nude. They have cool visuals.


TL;DR: I would rather have the female characters look cool than to dress practical or look as nude as possible.


AND! The recent screenshot of Kano having half his face slit open possibly shows a blue fan-like weapon, so that could mean Kitana is soon going to be confirmed. It may be a completely other character though, so don't get your hopes up just yet, but it's a possibility. ^^
 
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Ugh, that extra Mileena costume was just horrible. It's not because of her being almost naked, it was just that it was unflattering and if I was a guy, I wouldn't find that attractive. Her body type isn't really... girlish. It was too blocky and square.

And of course, I have an issue with Mortal Kombat's logic. But we all know for a fact that if they actually brought actual logic into this game, it would be completely different. (Sub-Zero unable to freeze in mid air, yeah I don't think people would like that it's gone because of logic). Her costume didn't even make any freaking sense logic wise because there's no way in hell those wraps would have stayed on the way that they did. Had they redesigned it to where it looked like it made sense, I probably would have been like, "meh, interesting concept, to say the least."

I feel like whoever came up with that concept took a roll of toilet paper, found a feminine-looking mannequin and tossed it on it and drew where the paper landed (And drew in the parts that it didn't cover). Even I tried to wrap myself in the same way as she did and it did not stay up (I also had a leotard on so I wasn't completely naked).

It would have been a bit... sexier had her body type not look like a steroid-infused woman and logic had some sort of role in it.


I stated it in previous posts, I'd rather see more realistic looking bodies more over the outfits. I can handle with some characters looking a bit out of place with what they wear, but I'd like to see at least some changes with the females. They sort of had it with 2011, but there was hardly a change. I really don't think Mileena and Kitana would be that muscular.
 
Please keep in mind, this is just my point of view:

I have expressed this before, about the whole sexualization of female characters. I don't mind that to happen to some of them, as long it is within respectable reason. The Edenian girls, such as Kitana, Jade, Tanya and Sindel have always had that beautiful, sexual and strong aura about them, dressed in leotards and thigh-high boots and shown cleavage etc., so with those it makes sense, however, it can get TOO scantly clad, like in MK9. They can look sexy without being 90% naked.

Then there's the situation with Mileena. She is apparently supposed to be a very hypersexual character, so it would make even more sense for her to show alot more skin than the rest of the female characters. So it makes sense for her to be scantly clad, however, again within reason. This IS still a fighting game, not a porn simulator. I wouldn't want to see Mileena dressed in a thin string of cloth only wrapped around her private parts. It didn't even look cool.

It wouldn't make sense for Sonya to dress up with her boobs out and wearing high heels. She's a US military representant. Her MKDA (both main and alt) and her MKvsDCU outfits looked alot better than her MK9 one. And I think Cassie dress the part as well, so I'm happy with that.

Then there's the monster girls... Sheeva looked alot cooler in MKA than in MK9, imo. She actually looked like a monster, a real Shokan warrior, rather than a skinny with four arms. And she rocked the V-bikini alot better in MK3 than in MK9. D'vorah looks awesome, still scantly clad, but within reason. However, due to her overall looks, she is actually one of the few characters that could be all in the nude without it being offensive, as long you didn't actually see anything. She's an insectoid, so as long there aren't any nipples or vagina showing, there wouldn't actually be a problem. I'm glad she wears a costume though, because I would rather have a cool-looking costumed character than someone just running around naked. It's just boring.

I actually have that attitude overall. Would much rather see a cool-looking costume on a character, than nudity, practicality or realism, to be honest.
I guess that is one of the reasons I like the Edenian girls so much, because they dress to impress rather than to protect themselves or to be as nude as possible without actually being nude. They have cool visuals.


TL;DR: I would rather have the female characters look cool than to dress practical or look as nude as possible.


AND! The recent screenshot of Kano having half his face slit open possibly shows a blue fan-like weapon, so that could mean Kitana is soon going to be confirmed. It may be a completely other character though, so don't get your hopes up just yet, but it's a possibility. ^^

Before I write this message I would like to give a warning that I respect your opinion, I will be just stating a goddamn opinion Like I always did in this forum, that opinion will not try to force you, change something or abuse you in any way.

Yeah some skin would be ok. I mean Kitana and other Edenian females could have this kinda exotic clothes. You know Edenia is shown like this jungle world, so it would make sense.

As for Mileena it would be cool if she had some also exotic revealing clothing. They could give her similar outfit to Juri Han from Street fighter 4, just with some modifications. This is just my WISH and opinion about this. Please just don't take it the wrong way.
 
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The Edenian girls should have a Third World/natural vibe to them. I like how Jade is going for the Amazon look. Take it a step further and give her a full-on Brazilian vibe. She can have thick thighs, a nice butt, tan lines and be skilled in BJJ. Kitana I think looks more like a traditional Latina, so she should have an hourglass shape with emphasis on the butt as well, but boobs should go to Mileena. Mileena should stick with the Arabian look. Like she just walked out of the harem and bit off the ISIS caliph's junk. Tanya looks like she can do well with a Haitian/voodoo makeover. That would be sick. Just my OPINION, don't kill me for it...
 
One last thing, I really don't see why people try to look for "gender equality" or "proper representation" in something like Mortal Kombat. It's a god damned fantasy fighting tournament filled with stereotypes and parody.

You and a couple others are the only ones who make sense in this forum topic. I'm afraid the others aren't as outspoken and are more afraid of their reputation.
 
The Edenian girls should have a Third World/natural vibe to them. I like how Jade is going for the Amazon look. Take it a step further and give her a full-on Brazilian vibe. She can have thick thighs, a nice butt, tan lines and be skilled in BJJ. Kitana I think looks more like a traditional Latina, so she should have an hourglass shape with emphasis on the butt as well, but boobs should go to Mileena. Mileena should stick with the Arabian look. Like she just walked out of the harem and bit off the ISIS caliph's junk. Tanya looks like she can do well with a Haitian/voodoo makeover. That would be sick. Just my OPINION, don't kill me for it...

Don't worry won't kill you with it. As it seems my opinion is hurting people in some magical way. Ok so be it. MKX should have girls like that. Hell Sonya should have Bikini in Military fashion.
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Cassie Cage should have alternate costume in Johnny Cage style. Just pants and some small string to cover breasts. They shouldn't forget to add big bouncy effect on breasts. Also after fighting for 5 minutes girls should get covered in sweat and maybe do some dramatic moves once in a while too. Hey there should a be secret code which let's you play in water pool. You know to add some sexy effect.

Also bro you there right I was in denial. Sorry for having personal wishes on how females or any character should look like in MKX. I hope this message didn't hurt you.
 
Don't worry won't kill you with it. As it seems my opinion is hurting people in some magical way. Ok so be it. MKX should have girls like that. Hell Sonya should have Bikini in Military fashion.

Cassie Cage should have alternate costume in Johnny Cage style. Just pants and some small string to cover breasts. They shouldn't forget to add big bouncy effect on breasts. Also after fighting for 5 minutes girls should get covered in sweat and maybe do some dramatic moves once in a while too. Hey there should a be secret code which let's you play in water pool. You know to add some sexy effect.

Also bro you there right I was in denial. Sorry for having personal wishes on how females or any character should look like in MKX. I hope this message didn't hurt you.

You forgot ass-jiggling. Jax should have a gotcha-move that he grabs a faceful of ass and slaps the cheeks up like fleshy conga drums.

Did you draw that up just for the purpose of this post? Remarkable.
 
He is being hypocrite, you know? Since when it is manly
to get arroused from fictional Woman out of a video game?
Isn't it more like the contrary? Just my oppinion maybe? Dunno.
 
Before I write this message I would like to give a warning that I respect your opinion, I will be just stating a goddamn opinion Like I always did in this forum, that opinion will not try to force you, change something or abuse you in any way. I write this to avoid another useless discussion which would go over 5 pages.

Yeah some skin would be ok. I mean Kitana and other Edenian females could have this kinda exotic clothes. You know Edenia is shown like this jungle world, so it would make sense.

As for Mileena it would be cool if she had some also exotic revealing clothing. They could give her similar outfit to Juri Han from Street fighter 4, just with some modifications. This is just my WISH and opinion about this. Please just don't take it the wrong way.

lol, all this political correctness is killing me. XD

There's absolutely nothing in your post that is even remotely going to offend me in any way, so the whole "THIS IS JUST MY OPINION" thing you started with was completely unnecessary. :P

The Edenian girls should have a Third World/natural vibe to them. I like how Jade is going for the Amazon look. Take it a step further and give her a full-on Brazilian vibe. She can have thick thighs, a nice butt, tan lines and be skilled in BJJ. Kitana I think looks more like a traditional Latina, so she should have an hourglass shape with emphasis on the butt as well, but boobs should go to Mileena. Mileena should stick with the Arabian look. Like she just walked out of the harem and bit off the ISIS caliph's junk. Tanya looks like she can do well with a Haitian/voodoo makeover. That would be sick. Just my OPINION, don't kill me for it...

I can see where you're going with this, and it's actually not bad. It's just your way of expressing it... it's like your focus is to make the female characters look as fap'able as possible to you, which I personally think shouldn't be your go-to focus, as this is, like I said in an earlier post, a fighting game and not a porn simulator. The goal isn't for you to get a boner, the goal is for you to think it looks cool when the characters are brutally beating the crap out of eachother.

But that said, the inspiration you want these characters to take from, Mileena having this Arabian harem girl feel to her (kinda like she had in MKD), Jade looking like an amazon etc., they're not bad. I would like for them to keep true to the Edenian style, but to take inspiration from these sources you mention as part of their design.
 
lol, all this political correctness is killing me. XD

There's absolutely nothing in your post that is even remotely going to offend me in any way, so the whole "THIS IS JUST MY OPINION" thing you started with was completely unnecessary. :P



I can see where you're going with this, and it's actually not bad. It's just your way of expressing it... it's like your focus is to make the female characters look as fap'able as possible to you, which I personally think shouldn't be your go-to focus, as this is, like I said in an earlier post, a fighting game and not a porn simulator. The goal isn't for you to get a boner, the goal is for you to think it looks cool when the characters are brutally beating the crap out of eachother.

But that said, the inspiration you want these characters to take from, Mileena having this Arabian harem girl feel to her (kinda like she had in MKD), Jade looking like an amazon etc., they're not bad. I would like for them to keep true to the Edenian style, but to take inspiration from these sources you mention as part of their design.

Exactly. I think Mileena was too kitschy in the last game, although I appreciate the direction they took with her. I think her Arabian look (MK Gold, MK Deception, MK9 Alternate) is really fitting. It's devious, it's mysterious, it's dangerous. Edenia isn't inspired by Western civilization. It's a natural environment. Jade's Amazon look came from MK Deception, but I think they should have kept her complexion the way it was in that game, instead of lightening it up in MK9. She should be ass-heavy, and have strong legs due to her fighting style. Definitely can go for the jungle-Brazilian babe look.

What do you think about Li Mei, Tanya, Skarlet?
 
Exactly. I think Mileena was too kitschy in the last game, although I appreciate the direction they took with her. I think her Arabian look (MK Gold, MK Deception, MK9 Alternate) is really fitting. It's devious, it's mysterious, it's dangerous. Edenia isn't inspired by Western civilization. It's a natural environment. Jade's Amazon look came from MK Deception, but I think they should have kept her complexion the way it was in that game, instead of lightening it up in MK9. She should be ass-heavy, and have strong legs due to her fighting style. Definitely can go for the jungle-Brazilian babe look.

What do you think about Li Mei, Tanya, Skarlet?

I don't care about Li Mei. To me, she is just another Asian-inspred girl in another fighting game. Chun Li was the first and the best, imo, the rest, such as Xiaoyu (Tekken), Xianghua and Leixia (Soul Calibur), Sakura (Street Fighter), Kim Wu (Killer Instinct) and Li Mei are just boring carbon copies.

I like the voodoo-inspiration for Tanya. The way I see her, she has the potential to be a sorceress kind of character, instead of being a Kitana/Jade copy. She doesn't necessarily need to do voodoo, but her aesthetic theme could come from that. Her ties to both Edenia and the Netherrealm could easily give her reason to be a dark sorceress.

Skarlet had the inspiration from the get-go in MK9. Kunoichi. Japanese female ninja. None of the Edenian assassins, or the "female MK ninjas" as people like to call them, have ever actually looked like ninjas other than the masks covering their mouths. Skarlet took it a step further with the dogi (traditional ninja garb) looking top and the top half of her boots, as well as her ninja-toh and kunai weapons. So I'd like for Skarlet to keep that inspiration. Shao Kahn has a bit of a "barbaric samurai" style to it, and Skarlet is the only other character from Outworld to actually fit along that style, but of course as a ninja rather than a samurai.
 
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