Injustice Discussion Thread

prpletrltle said:
And here I thought for a second that it would be completely unreleated, but it's more Black Adam (insert smiley here or don't). Pretty cool video and I even thought the music fit. But if anything that video just makes me wonder how can you say that 1 tank character (Grundy) is enough when Superman, Shazam and Black Adam don't only look quite alike but they have plenty of same powers. In the game they'd "fly", use powerful slams and fire some projectiles.
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The only powers that they share with Superman is super-strength and super-speed and flight.

Black Adam uses his power differently then Captain Marvel. In fact the way cap fought in Mk/DC was more of the way Adam fights then the way Cap fights. Marvel fights more defense and Adam is more the unrelenting offense because he thinks he's one step ahead because of is clairvoyance.

And nothing says that either Adam or Cap. Need to use their ability to fly like superman it could be used as a dash or dodge move. They could even use their super speed in a different way then The Flash and Superman.
 
But with that logic we could argue that they could add Grundy, Bane and Killer Croc and make them all different. We have already seen Grundy, he is slow and brutal tank that has heavy attacks. They could also add Bane who is a lot more technical fighter, he is a bit faster but also a bit less resistant to damage. Bane knows martial arts moves and can do actual grapples instead of just throwing. I Imagine him being like a heavyweight King from Tekken (I know someone would love that :)). Thirdly they could make Killer Croc into the fierce predator he is. He could leap and rush around almost like Venom. The speed is an advantage in pummeling enemy to bits but it can also be a problem because of the slow stopping time.

They would be quite different, but if NRS wants real variety they should look at other characters.

I also remember someone (maybe it wasn't you) saying that Catwoman doesn't need to be in this game because Nightwing is there and they're both agile "ninjas". Really? If there isn't room for both NW and CW then I sure hope there isn't room for 3 gods that fly around pummeling each other and firing magic.

Personally I hope there are 2 similiar characters that complete each other ie Supes and Shazam, but because the roster is only 24 then 2 of each type must be the limit.
 
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prpletrltle said:
I'm just starting to get the impression that Injustice isn't even supposed to have that much effort in it. The fact it looks so much like MK9 reskin with interactive stages just reinforces it. If we use that as base for character speculation I could see they don't give a damn about long term popularity but who is hot right now and who DC plans to push for later. Injustice would be more about advertising than anything else.
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Injustice is a fighting game made by NRS, obviously they will go with mechanics they are familiar with and a formula that worked really well in the past than trying out something entirely new. There is reason why MK9 was the most successful fighting game of 2011 and NRS is just trying to capitalize on that. The only Injustice could have common to MK9 are 3D characters and 2.5D plane. The characters this time around are a lot more detailed and unique along with the environments, plus this game will be running on a modified unreal 3 while MK9 ran on the standard one. It's in no way just a reskin of MK9. Also if NRS never cared about long term popularity, it wouldn't have pushed MK9 to be a tournament worthy fighter and it wouldn't be pushing Injustice to be more competitive than MK9. Mk9 had the best cast of characters any MK fan could ask for and they do check what the fans want through polls and such. I doubt WB/DC/Rocksteady would have much influence on them with regards to the direction NRS wants to take the game.
 
Flying Jinko said:
Also if NRS never cared about long term popularity, it wouldn't have pushed MK9 to be a tournament worthy fighter and it wouldn't be pushing Injustice to be more competitive than MK9.
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Should have been clearer, I meant the character popularity. Sure we doesn't know the roster yet but when Grundy and Cyborg get spots out of 24 I'm getting a bit worried. But if pretty much everyone else is an obvious pick (Green Lantern, Aquaman, Joker...) then sure.

Wish I could be as optimistic. Just seems weird that suddenly WB is releasing DC game this and that. Especially considering what is going over at Rocksteady. Did NRS think of the idea of using DC universe themselves or did WB suggest (or "suggest") it? These days many publishers do have high demands and strict control
 
prpletrltle said:
But with that logic we could argue that they could add Grundy, Bane and Killer Croc and make them all different. We have already seen Grundy, he is slow and brutal tank that has heavy attacks. They could also add Bane who is a lot more technical fighter, he is a bit faster but also a bit less resistant to damage. Bane knows martial arts moves and can do actual grapples instead of just throwing. I Imagine him being like a heavyweight King from Tekken (I know someone would love that :)). Thirdly they could make Killer Croc into the fierce predator he is. He could leap and rush around almost like Venom. The speed is an advantage in pummeling enemy to bits but it can also be a problem because of the slow stopping time.
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That's why I've said just add one as an alt. But play them as separate characters. like with Mk9 and Bi Han and Kuai liang. They don't even have to use their physical abilities. They also have a force like ability as well.
 
AMES32 said:
That's why I've said just add one as an alt. But play them as separate characters. like with Mk9 and Bi Han and Kuai liang. They don't even have to use their physical abilities. They also have a force like ability as well.
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I think your on to something Ames but it's a bad idea for Bane, Croc, and Grundy; however for others this would be great, like all of the "Robin" types .... Capt. Marvel // Dark Adam...so on and so on.
 
AMES32 said:
That's why I've said just add one as an alt. But play them as separate characters. like with Mk9 and Bi Han and Kuai liang.
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No... just no

Bi-Han as an alt for Kuai Liang is different

Beside the obvious, they are literally the exact same and have the exact same powers, so it works for them since there's no reason to have both of them playable at the same time

Bane or Croc as a skin for Grundy, though? Come on now
 
May be a stretch, but what if Croc has burrowing moves to compensate for the lack of water? He quickly digs underground to either smash from under the opponent, appear behind them or escape away from them.
 
Metal Overlord said:
No... just no

Bi-Han as an alt for Kuai Liang is different

Beside the obvious, they are literally the exact same and have the exact same powers, so it works for them since there's no reason to have both of them playable at the same time.
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You do know that both Black Adam and Captain Marvel use the power of shazam? It's just Black Adam has had thousands of years to learn and develop his style and Cap is still learning and developing his style. The only real difference between the two is how they fight.


Metal Overlord said:
Bane or Croc as a skin for Grundy, though? Come on now
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I agree with this.
Crock and Bane are well enough known they deserve their own spot and if that can't happen they should be saved for DLC.
 
For a while I doubted Croc would be in due to his size, but then I was playing MvC3 and remembered just how huge Sentinel & Nemesis are. I still have hope, but not much since there isn't any super jumping.
 
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Killer Croc, King & Venom in the same post
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Well ever since they effed up Yoshimitsu's looks King has been my main. And who doesn't love Venom or Croc.

I overanalyze the character select screen quite a bit but it would be pretty fun if Grundy, Bane and Croc formed tank trio (although that's 2,5 Batman characters). Doomsday is the only other candidate I can think of but he is way out of this league and I think he should be one of the bosses. He'd be the prime candidate for a huge chunk of meat that can withstand lots of punishment and kill the player in a couple of hits.

Burrow moves would be a great way to further differentiate Croc from the rest of cast. I can already see Croc dashing, leaping, biting, clawing and digging his way all over the screen at high speed.

I don't think Croc would have to be that big. Grundy is also quite small compared to what he could be. Croc's upper body would be somewhat bigger while lower body is about the same. Plus he could always hunch like he does in Arkham games.
 
^^Atleast to me that doesn't matter that much. But for some reason I want to say that they should make him look like Curt Connors (classic or Amazing movie one). Just to stir up some more wild speculation and complaining.
 
prpletrltle said:
^^Atleast to me that doesn't matter that much. But for some reason I want to say that they should make him look like Curt Connors (classic or Amazing movie one). Just to stir up some more wild speculation and complaining.
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Why would they even entertain the Idea of using Marvels lizardman look when he looks like a Goomba from the Mario movie? I think they got it right in AC because it wasn't anything like The lizardman.

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