Who is the strongest zoner in MK 2011 ?

Who is the strongest zoner in MK 2011 ?

  • Noob Saibot

    Votes: 24 45.3%

  • Reptile

    Votes: 2 3.8%

  • Sub-Zero

    Votes: 8 15.1%

  • Nightwolf

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Cyrax

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Shang Tsung

    Votes: 4 7.5%

  • CSZ

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Ermac

    Votes: 9 17.0%

  • Sindel

    Votes: 4 7.5%
  • Total voters
    53
Wouldn't Kano qualify as a good zoner as well? Most of the Kanos I encounter do nothing but spam knife and upball.
 
kano would at best be light zoner. his knives are fast and very little recovery so he can trade with some zoners, i think hes more mixupish
 
I think it's interesting to see that S and A+ are currently dominated by RC and ZC type characters. So the best characters are those that have either great offense or great defense, but that also have responses / counters to their weakness.
 
BrokenJanders said:
You just said most of the Kano's you have faced spam knives, and then said that he is a good zoner (because of...) *le sigh*
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Reread your post.

And I'm not implying he's a good zoner simply because he has a projectile, I was watching a stream with a Kano player and noticed how fast his recover is on his knife throw, as pointed out by aedanwolfe. He could potentially distance some people with the knife and then use his ball moves when someone attempts to close in. But after thinking about it, aedanwolfe is right, he is more of a mixup, he doesn't have as many tools as other zoners.
 
I only put Nightwolf in the list, because, some dudes online try to zone use him, using the following pattern : trading arrows , use lighbolt, if the enemy advance or jump, use timing with shoulder charge, or, if too close, the up axe ..... and, some players, have extreme dificulty to get away of this tactic ...... and Nightwolf can replace some arrows disputes using his reflect aura, being more or less protected ......

But he is not a pure zoner, he is a could be consider a "zoner according oportunities that shows up, sometimes" .....
 
I see. I say Noob, Sindel and Sub-Zero are the most dangerous zoners I've known so far.

And Vulcan, you forgot to take into account on Pressure type characters as some characters can ruin the opponent's gameplay once caught in the corner, they can just constantly attack without letting you breathe at all.

Anyways, back to zoning, it is mainly a defensive playstyle for those who like to take their time and pace their rhytmn on players who want to end their fights quickly. Mostly the best way of dealing against Zoners is using characters that have moves that can counter and make them come to you so you can deal with them up close and in person.
 
my vote goes for csz lol. he uses his iceball strictly in combo or trade wars, his teleport allows him to do full combo on freeze even from full screen. obviously tele gets around zoning.

ex bombs force them to move

dive kicks were practically made to punish fireballs
 
I main Sub-Zero, so if any of you on XBL want to experience a solid SZ, thinker, and someone who can adapt, by all means give me a friendly challenge.

Sub-Zero is all about zoning, period. I get all my combos off on people jumping in my ice clones, trading projectiles, and the other half is me mixing them up. If you never learn to stop jumping in, then you'll lose. I also "condition" my oppenents to be ready for the same move, and change it up.
Playing quality fighting games against a high rated opponent is like real-time chess. It's all in your thinking, planning ahead, and adapting your style.

Fox17, it's very clear you don't understand either the terminology of fighting games, or simply MK9. Your definitions are cross along with your logic (not to stay it'll never work) with how you probably SHOULD play sub-zero. You can do whatever you please, but if you wanna roll with the big dogs, do more research, work in the lab, and play higher ranked players. This is in no way an insult, just attempting to clarify. I play a ton of Street Fighter, thus my knowledge of fighting game terminology, analysis, and game mechanics are quite extensive with many others here who are obviously on the same page. I don't consider myself a pro, but I understand what it takes to recognize one, and be one.

Volcan Hades and AedanWolfe pretty much nailed it on the head throughout this thread imo.

Best 3 Zoners:
Noob, Sub-Zero, Ermac

Best 3 Anti-Zoners (almost anyone with a decent teleport)
Raiden, Smoke, Scorpion (although I can't remember the last time I lost to a scorpion. Most teleporters are VERY predictable, least the ones online are)
 
It's a shame you aren't on PS3, I'd love to practice against a great Sub-Zero.

Any takers, feel free to add me on PSN.
 
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