Who is Scorpion?

sub-one said:
Now unlike honorable ninjas, who understand that death is a very real possibility in their particular line of work, Scorpion chooses to p*ss and moan about his death. His incessant b-ching catches the attention of Quan-chi who offers him a proposition....
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100% not true. If you do what's considered evil deeds in the MK Universe, and your soul is tainted enough, once you die, your spirit gets sent to the Netherrealm (hell). Quan Chi revived Scorpion's soul as a Spectre because it wasn't at rest due to the treachery Scorpion experienced.

sub-one said:
Back on Earth, the "Lin kuei" have killed Scorpion's clan, because they were enemy clans of killers so naturally they would try to kill each other. (Kinda like Crips and Latin kings only with kung-fu and swords and stuff).
So, Quan-chi, tired of hearing all his b-ching, decides to give the whiniest ninja in hell a chance to avenge his family clan blah blah blah and finally STFU!
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Also wrong, don't know if you were being sarcastic here, but Quan Chi eliminated the Shirai Ryu and framed Sub-Zero and the Lin Kuei in an effort to get Scorpion to do his bidding, falsely leading him to seek revenge.

sub-one said:
Now it's also important to note that sub-zero dies and is also consequently transformed into an undead servant of Quan-chi. However the big difference here is....

1.He doesn't b-ich about it

2.He doesn't come back on some stupid ass vendetta.

Instead, he makes the best of it. He replaces Scorpion as Quan-chi's bodyguard (implying that even in death he is scorpion's superior and the only reason scorpion exists is to recruit Sub-zero! He embraces the fact that he is dead and in hell, and is so badass plots to overthrow Quan-chi. yet again real ninja shit

So basically. Scorpion is not that important. just a yellow cry bag.
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Lol, so because of your hatred for a video game character, you twist his story? Right... And I'm not even saying this because I'm a Scorpion fan (Sub-Zero and Noob are my 2nd and 3rd favourite MK characters, respectively).
 
Taj Gill said:
100% not true. If you do what's considered evil deeds in the MK Universe, and your soul is tainted enough, once you die, your spirit gets sent to the Netherrealm (hell). Quan Chi revived Scorpion's soul as a Spectre because it wasn't at rest due to the treachery Scorpion experienced.
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Ironically, the same circumstances led to Bi-Han's fall into the Netherrealm, especially considering the fact that he came dangerously close to bringing Earthrealm to its knees when he defeated the 4 elemental guardians of the Temple and allowed Quan Chi to claim the amulet (his ignorance of the situation notwithstanding).

Also wrong, don't know if you were being sarcastic here, but Quan Chi eliminated the Shirai Ryu and framed Sub-Zero and the Lin Kuei in an effort to get Scorpion to do his bidding, falsely leading him to seek revenge.
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Given what I know about Quan Chi's treachery, and the treachery MK villains in general are capable of, I have been led to believe that the fear of betrayal was one of Quan Chi's motives for framing the Lin Kuei as a whole, and both Sub-Zeros in particular, for the Shirai Ryu Massacre (which later came to fruition, as Bi-Han eventually did betray him after stern convincing from Raiden), but you are right that this was what he needed to convince Scorpion to do his bidding in the first place.

Lol, so because of your hatred for a video game character, you twist his story? Right... And I'm not even saying this because I'm a Scorpion fan (Sub-Zero and Noob are my 2nd and 3rd favourite MK characters, respectively).
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I hate Mileena (which I have been consistently on record here as saying time and time again), and the only type of character assassination I have done to her was labeling her as a slut, which is warranted given her appearance and her demeanor. At least I can legitimately back up my opinion of Mileena. The way sub one is trashing Scorpion reminds me of a 5-year-old kid who thinks everything he sees on television is real. Whether anyone likes Scorpion or not is irrelevant. No one can deny that Scorpion is to Mortal Kombat what Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are to the New England Patriots. Hell, Scorpion's silhouette is on NRS's logo, so what does that tell you about his star power?
 
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Taj Gill said:
100% not true. If you do what's considered evil deeds in the MK Universe, and your soul is tainted enough, once you die, your spirit gets sent to the Netherrealm (hell). Quan Chi revived Scorpion's soul as a Spectre because it wasn't at rest due to the treachery Scorpion experienced.



Also wrong, don't know if you were being sarcastic here, but Quan Chi eliminated the Shirai Ryu and framed Sub-Zero and the Lin Kuei in an effort to get Scorpion to do his bidding, falsely leading him to seek revenge.



Lol, so because of your hatred for a video game character, you twist his story? Right... And I'm not even saying this because I'm a Scorpion fan (Sub-Zero and Noob are my 2nd and 3rd favourite MK characters, respectively).
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actually in Sub-zero's MK9 ending it clearly states that the lin kuei were responsible for the deaths of both sub-0 and scorpions families. All of my statements were rife with facetious statements. Additionally I'm taking swipes at scorpion because both Sub-0s were defecated on in MK9, immensly so! Every piece of memorabilia aside from one resin statue, has sub being impaled, uppercutted or other wise punked by scorpion. I don't particularly "hate" scorpion (he was actually my favorite character in UMK3) I just hate how the entire promotion scheme shits all over sub-zero in an effort to shove scorpion down our throats. More like me just venting about my dislike of blatant scorpion over-saturation in in recent years.
 
Tarkatan Trash said:
Ironically, the same circumstances led to Bi-Han's fall into the Netherrealm, especially considering the fact that he came dangerously close to bringing Earthrealm to its knees when he defeated the 4 elemental guardians of the Temple and allowed Quan Chi to claim the amulet (his ignorance of the situation notwithstanding).



Given what I know about Quan Chi's treachery, and the treachery MK villains in general are capable of, I have been led to believe that the fear of betrayal was one of Quan Chi's motives for framing the Lin Kuei as a whole, and both Sub-Zeros in particular, for the Shirai Ryu Massacre (which later came to fruition, as Bi-Han eventually did betray him after stern convincing from Raiden), but you are right that this was what he needed to convince Scorpion to do his bidding in the first place.



I hate Mileena (which I have been consistently on record here as saying time and time again), and the only type of character assassination I have done to her was labeling her as a slut, which is warranted given her appearance and her demeanor. At least I can legitimately back up my opinion of Mileena. The way sub one is trashing Scorpion reminds me of a 5-year-old kid who thinks everything he sees on television is real. Whether anyone likes Scorpion or not is irrelevant. No one can deny that Scorpion is to Mortal Kombat what Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are to the New England Patriots. Hell, Scorpion's silhouette is on NRS's logo, so what does that tell you about his star power?
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if scorpion is "Tom Brady" then sub-zero is "Gronk".

childish huh? Well I'll be just that sugar bush.
 
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sub-one said:
actually in Sub-zero's MK9 ending it clearly states that the lin kuei were responsible for the deaths of both sub-0 and scorpions families. All of my statements were rife with facetious statements. Additionally I'm taking swipes at scorpion because both Sub-0s were defecated on in MK9, immensly so! Every piece of memorabilia aside from one resin statue, has sub being impaled, uppercutted or other wise punked by scorpion. I don't particularly "hate" scorpion (he was actually my favorite character in UMK3) I just hate how the entire promotion scheme shits all over sub-zero in an effort to shove scorpion down our throats. More like me just venting about my dislike of blatant scorpion over-saturation in in recent years.
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The Lin Kuei wanted the clan eliminated yes, but they themselves did not do it, Quan Chi did. And he did it, not for the purpose of serving the Lin Kuei, but for his own purposes.

Not gonna lie, Scorpion is the mascot, and probably is the most mainstream character outside of hardcore MK gamers. You are right about him being shoved down our throats, but that's not my problem with your post lol, it was you giving the members a false and biased view of Scorpion's story.
 
Scorpion is the posterboy of Mortal Kombat. He is the face, the heart and the embodiment. Of course he's going to get shoved down our throats. When a new Street Fighter comes out, who do you see? Ryu. Tekken? The Mishimas. It's just marketing.
 
So many replies, and it seems no one mentioned this aspect of Scorpion's character yet: that he is one of the biggest fools in the series. Easily convinced by Quan Chi that the Lin Kuei, and Bi-Han in particular, was responsible for the massacre of his family and clan. Quan Chi himself had to tell Scorpion the truth in his (Scorpion's) MK4 ending for the twit to know it. Now, he's right back to being Quan Chi's most loyal lackey. Just what did Quan Chi do to make Scorpion trust him anyway? Is it that hard for him to imagine Quan Chi slaughtering his family and clan, and using Bi-Han as a scapegoat? He knows Quan Chi is evil, but apparently not so evil that he'd manipulate Scorpion for his own ends.

Sorry if it's already been said. His foolishness is easily one of his most important traits as a character. He's such a bonehead. And hot-headed. Guess even Sub-Zero couldn't help him cool off.
 
Taj Gill said:
The Lin Kuei wanted the clan eliminated yes, but they themselves did not do it, Quan Chi did. And he did it, not for the purpose of serving the Lin Kuei, but for his own purposes.

Not gonna lie, Scorpion is the mascot, and probably is the most mainstream character outside of hardcore MK gamers. You are right about him being shoved down our throats, but that's not my problem with your post lol, it was you giving the members a false and biased view of Scorpion's story.
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right here: http://youtu.be/_PaMtcx_JPY
 
sub-one said:
right here: http://youtu.be/_PaMtcx_JPY
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Okay but like I said, Quan Chi offered that as incentive to the Lin Kuei, but in reality, HE did it to serve his own purpose. The Lin Kuei wanted the clan eliminated, it just happened that Quan Chi went a bit further to serve his own purposes by killing Scorpion's family.

And we already know that MK9 ladder endings aren't canon, if you want to take an extra step.
 
Critical-Limit said:
Essentially, Quan Chi tricked Scorpion into thinking Subzero killed his wife and child. while the lin Kuei wiped out his clan.

When it was actually Quan chi who did it, to acquire scorpion as a fighter for him.

So essentially Scorpion agree's to Quan Chi's terms in order to get a shot at getting revenge against Subzero, not realizing he's a puppet to the guy who actually killed his family.

his story is pretty tragic and his motives are purely for self satisfaction of delivering vengeance to those that did him wrong.

He only sides with people if they have something to offer him that has anything to do with his motives, he isn't purely evil or purely good. He just wants revenge.
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Since he was a cutthroat ninja before he died, and vengeance is in itself an evil. I kinda think it's safe to say that he's evil.
 
Taj Gill said:
Okay but like I said, Quan Chi offered that as incentive to the Lin Kuei, but in reality, HE did it to serve his own purpose. The Lin Kuei wanted the clan eliminated, it just happened that Quan Chi went a bit further to serve his own purposes by killing Scorpion's family.

And we already know that MK9 ladder endings aren't canon, if you want to take an extra step.
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Granted. However until mk10 comes out, which may or may not follow the MK4 story arch. We don't know that for sure. It wasn't mentioned in MK9 who was truly responsible during the only canon part of the game, story mode. the only other place it was mentioned was in scorpion's ending which isn't canon either. Seeing as how MK9 "rewrote" MK history in a number of ways anything is possible at this point.
 
sub-one said:
Granted. However until mk10 comes out, which may or may not follow the MK4 story arch. We don't know that for sure. It wasn't mentioned in MK9 who was truly responsible during the only canon part of the game, story mode. the only other place it was mentioned was in scorpion's ending which isn't canon either. Seeing as how MK9 "rewrote" MK history in a number of ways anything is possible at this point.
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Mythologies and MK4 already established, in retcon-proof fashion, who was responsible for the Shirai Ryu massacre.
 
Raiden didn't receive his future altering visions until the MK1 tournament. So nothing before the MK1 tournament (like the Shirai Ryu massacre) was changed
 
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