What happens after MKX: Mortal Kombat 11 character Wish List

So, you guys want MK to degenerate into a grey and repetitive garbage?
Look at Sonic the Hedgehog, is that what you want for MK?
I love MK, i want the best for MK, and the best for MK is to end in its best moment, before it becomes grey and repetitive.
 
brutalscorpion said:
So, you guys want MK to degenerate into a grey and repetitive garbage?
Look at Sonic the Hedgehog, is that what you want for MK?
I love MK, i want the best for MK, and the best for MK is to end in its best moment, before it becomes grey and repetitive.
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Since when did Consistency become a BAD thing?

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^^ Consistency is a good thing, repetitiveness? Not so much. But what I love about the MK games is that each game feels new and different. The reason I say repetitiveness is a bad thing is because of my loss of interest in the Tekken series. Back in the day, I was a bigger Tekken fan than a MK fan, however starting with Tekken 6, each game feels like an add-on rather than a completely new game in the series. They just keep the roster from the previous game, add more characters and moves, keep the same mechanics, voices, etc... This is why Mortal Kombat is so much more exciting, the story, different fighting mechanics, different roster with each game.

So I hope MK11 will be just like MKX was to MK9... Fresh roster, fresh gameplay mechanics, story... As long as they keep their games distinct, I do not wish to see the series come to an end.
 
MKShao_Kahn said:
^^ Consistency is a good thing, repetitiveness? Not so much. But what I love about the MK games is that each game feels new and different. The reason I say repetitiveness is a bad thing is because of my loss of interest in the Tekken series. Back in the day, I was a bigger Tekken fan than a MK fan, however starting with Tekken 6, each game feels like an add-on rather than a completely new game in the series. They just keep the roster from the previous game, add more characters and moves, keep the same mechanics, voices, etc... This is why Mortal Kombat is so much more exciting, the story, different fighting mechanics, different roster with each game.

So I hope MK11 will be just like MKX was to MK9... Fresh roster, fresh gameplay mechanics, story... As long as they keep their games distinct, I do not wish to see the series come to an end.
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Were you complaining about "the same roster as the last game AND THEN SOME" in Tekken 2? Because that's exactly what Tekken 2's roster was.

Would you rather have a Tekken 2/Tekken 6 type of roster, or a Street Fighter 3 roster, where you can literally count on one hand how many of the proven fan favorites come back?

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Tarkatan Trash said:
Were you complaining about "the same roster as the last game AND THEN SOME" in Tekken 2? Because that's exactly what Tekken 2's roster was.

Would you rather have a Tekken 2/Tekken 6 type of roster, or a Street Fighter 3 roster, where you can literally count on one hand how many of the proven fan favorites come back?

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It's fine to have that amount of returning characters at the start of the series, it is a different situation... MK has been around for 20 years and so has Tekken, the difference is that MK has managed to stay fresh while Tekken keeps doing the add-on type of games. Never played Street Fighter but surely you won't argue that Tekken 3 was a successful game even though at least half of the characters on the roster were new ones? Back then Namco was not afraid to take a gamble and it worked out. Of course, I agree with you Tarkatan, consistency is great, by all means have the iconic characters come back for every game - it kind of is the case with MKX anyway because we have the revenant characters. However, this is different from what Tekken is doing. There is no need to have characters like Sindel or Kabal in every single game, it does get repetitive and there is only so much more you can do with these characters. New characters and gameplay mechanics are the best way to keep the series fresh. It should be a healthy mixture of new and old in my opinion.

So consistency by all means, but please no to repetition which halts any sort of development of the series.
 
I still think that the fair thing to do would be to have 8 characters from each era on the main roster (MK1 thru UMK3 / MK9, post-MK3 and MKX), with 2 more characters from each MK9 and post-MK3 being DLC.



* Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Raiden, Liu Kang, Kitana, Kung Lao & Mileena seem to be this timeline's new OG7, with 1 more that maybe didn't make it to MKX (either Kabal, Shang Tsung, Sindel, Sheeva, Stryker or Noob Saibot).

* Post-MK3 could be Kenshi, Tanya, Fujin, Bo Rai Cho and 4 others from that era.

* If it were up to me, the 8 new MKX characters would also come back on the main roster.

* 2 new characters for MK11

***That's 26 characters (8 from each era, including 2 new for MK11).

DLC:
* 2 MK1 thru UMK3 / MK9 characters as DLC
* 2 Post-MK3 characters as DLC
* 2 obligatory guests as DLC


****That's a total of 32 total characters (after DLC), with the game reflecting new new direction that MK is heading towards.


MKX is supposedly the "passing of the torch" game and given that MKX ended with Dark Raiden and on more of a Deception note, then the roster should also reflect that, imo.
 
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Comparing Sonic the Hedgehog to Mortal Kombat... I don't see how that's plausible.

As long as the roster has a variety of new and old, it's fine for me. I just don't want to see the same cast for every single game. You want to include the older characters, then switch them out. Those who returned for X, replace half of those with characters that weren't included.

Those who were new to X, should return. The whole new cast? Would like to see that, but it's doubtful that some are returning.

I want Mortal Kombat to last as long as it can. I don't ever see the next Mortal Kombat game to be the last, especially since this new timeline we're on still has a hell of a lot of unanswered questions going on. I'd like to see what will happen with the whole Dragon King army story and if those from Deadly Alliance-Armageddon will have a chance to return.
 
Commander said:
I still think that the fair thing to do would be to have 8 characters from each era on the main roster (MK1 thru UMK3 / MK9, post-MK3 and MKX), with 2 more characters from each MK9 and post-MK3 being DLC.



* Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Raiden, Liu Kang, Kitana, Kung Lao & Mileena seem to be this timeline's new OG7, with 1 more that maybe didn't make it to MKX (either Kabal, Shang Tsung, Sindel, Sheeva, Stryker or Noob Saibot).

* Post-MK3 could be Kenshi, Tanya, Fujin, Bo Rai Cho and 4 others from that era.

* If it were up to me, the 8 new MKX characters would also come back on the main roster.

* 2 new characters for MK11

***That's 26 characters (8 from each era, including 2 new for MK11).

DLC:
* 2 MK1 thru UMK3 / MK9 characters as DLC
* 2 Post-MK3 characters as DLC
* 2 obligatory guests as DLC


****That's a total of 32 total characters (after DLC), with the game reflecting new new direction that MK is heading towards.


MKX is supposedly the "passing of the torch" game and given that MKX ended with Dark Raiden and on more of a Deception note, then the roster should also reflect that, imo.
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Sounds good but I'll make a few additions.

* Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Raiden (Dark), Liu Kang (Revenant), Kitana (Revenant), Mileena (Revenant), Kung Lao (Revenant), and Sindel (Revenant).

* Kenshi, Tanya, Fujin, Li Mei, Kai, Taven, Daegon, and Sareena. (FORGET Bo Rai Cho.)

* Cassie Cage, Jaqqui Briggs, Takeda, Kung Jin, D'Vorah, Erron Black, Triborg, and Kotal Kahn.

* Kano or Kano's Son or Tremor (One to represent the Black Dragon.) and Reptile

* Goro (Unlockable)

* Final Boss: Onaga (Unlockable)

** I don't think we need new characters anymore.

* DLC:
UMK3/MK9: Noob Saibot, and Jade (Possessed by the Mystery Woman and/or not depending on her variations.)
Post MK3: Hotaru and Nitara (Characters that introduce new realms.)
Guests: Kyle Crane (Dying Light) and Catwoman (DC)
 
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how about instead of returning the same regurgitated garbage in the form of 3D era characters, the new game brings more new characters?

i mean seeing how good the ones turned out to be in mkx, you'd think people would ask for more...but apparently, retards like hsu hao need a revamp and a chance in the next game
 
Xenon said:
how about instead of returning the same regurgitated garbage in the form of 3D era characters, the new game brings more new characters?

i mean seeing how good the ones turned out to be in mkx, you'd think people would ask for more...but apparently, retards like hsu hao need a revamp and a chance in the next game
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Because the ideas behind some of those characters were good, they were just in bad games. However, revamping them into a good game could make those characters alot more worth. It's worked for a good handful of characters already.

It's alright if you don't like the ideas, but such are opinions.
 
Oops. I'm at it again. Lol

1. Scorpion
2. Sub Zero
3. Reptile
4. D'Vorah
5. Kung Lao (Revenant)
6. Liu Kang (Dark Emperor)
7. Kitana (Dark Empress)
8. Dark Raiden
9. Fujin
10. Kano OR Kano's Son
11. Rain
12. Takeda
13. Cassie (Will have Sonya's and Johnny Cage's moves instead in her variations.)
14. Jacqui (Will have Jax's moves instead in one of her variations.)
15. Sareena
16. Tanya
17. Kung Jin
18. Kenshi
19. Li Mei
20. Ermac
21. Triborg
22. Erron Black
23. Kotal Kahn
24. Nitara
25. Goro (Unlocked after beating him in Klassic/Arcade Ladder.)
26. Onaga (Secret Character/Final Boss. Can be unlocked after finishing story mode.)

Mini Boss 1: Dark Empress Kitana
Mini Boss 2: Dark Emperor Liu Kang
Sub-Boss: Dark Raiden
Secret Boss: Goro (Beat the 2 mini bosses and the sub-boss without losing a round to fight him.)
Final Boss: Onaga

DLC:
1. Jade
2. Noob Saibot
3. Hotaru
4. Kai
5. Catwoman (DC) OR Mileena (If no guests.)
6. Kyle Crane (Dying Light) OR Shang Tsung (If no guests.)
7. Taven
8. Daegon
 
theincubuslord said:
Because the ideas behind some of those characters were good, they were just in bad games. However, revamping them into a good game could make those characters alot more worth. It's worked for a good handful of characters already.
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give me some examples here
 
It is hard to know what happens after MKX. Before listing your character wishlist you have to know that the story must go on in MKXI just like what happens after MK9. Therefore there is a character list almost certain in my head..

Classic Warriors; Raiden - Liu Kang - Kitana ( based on story ending ) Sub-Zero and Scorpion ( of course )

Outworld Team; Kotal Kahn - Reptile - Ermac - Erron Black - Ferra Torr - maybe D'vorah ( based on both Kotal Kahn and Raiden endings )

MKX Protagonists; Cassie Cage - Kung Jin - Takeda - Jacqui Briggs ( NRS said that these are the new generation of Mortal Kombat, i don't think they will eliminate them immediately.. same thing goes to Kotal Kahn, Erron Black, Ferra Torr and maybe D'vorah but i am not sure about her status, she is a very popular character in MKX and i absolutely love her. )

Parents; Johnny Cage - Sonya Blade and Major Jackson Briggs ( Can you imagine a mortal kombat game without them? i cannot. are you ready for that, yes i am. new things always keep me interested but the question is what nrs will do about this point? they will eliminate cage or briggs because of their childs will be in MKXI, i don't think so. )

Revenants; Stryker - Kabal - Sindel - Kung Lao - Nightwolf ( i just sure about that Kung Lao will be in MKXI, Sindel's fate at the hand of Kitana i am not sure about her, maybe Kabal because of fan demand but i guess there is no hope for Stryker or Nightwolf )

3D Era; Kenshi - Fujin - Daegon - Quan Chi - Shinnok - Reiko - Drahmin - Havik - Taven - Bo Rai Cho - Tanya - Sareena ( big possibility goes to Kenshi, Daegon and Taven.. impossibility goes to Lord Shinnok but who knows Quan Chi, remember his tricks in MK4 and MKDA, he can easily find a way to come back, besides of his abilities we have to think about his fanbase.. Reiko and Havik) very small chance, maybe Havik but not Reiko.. If there is an alliance for Edenia between Rain and Tanya, Tanya will be in. But i think Kitana will rule Edenia :) Bo Rai Cho could be in because his arcade ladder ending is very reasonable.. Fujin :) well, Kitana and Kung Lao will be in, what do you think? Sareena 50/50 because of fan demand. Drahmin has no chance but i would like to see him again. )

UMK3-Trilogy Characters; Sheeva - Noob Saibot - Rain - Chameleon - Mileena - Baraka - Jade ( I am not sure about any of them. Maybe Mileena because of huge fan demand, Noob Saibot could be in but who knows especially Ed Boon trolling him nowadays. Rain; same thing with Tanya. )

There will be new characters of course.

I don't want to see guest chars, but you know nrs never ask this point to the fans. I hope one of them will be Michael Myers. NOT sweet tooth..

Shang Tsung and Goro; almost certain for me.

Black Dragon; Kano, Tremor, Kano's Son ( Kano or his son is certain but not sure about Tremor )

Triborg's fate at the hand of variation system. , i want my human smoke back again..

No way for Characters like Nitara-Hotaru-Darrius-Dairou-Li Mei-Kira-Moloch-Mokap-Meat-Ashrah etc.. maybe Li Mei..

Onaga - I never want to see him again.. If there will be an unpredictable boss it could be new one. I am happy with Kotal Kahn. I wonder his story, not Onaga's again.
 
Xenon said:
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Sure.
Though not from the 3D era, Stryker was seen as the WORST character of the Trilogy era, and in MK9 he was awesome! Great redesign, great gameplay, overall pretty cool character.
Kenshi was already a somewhat popular character from the 3D era, but in MK9 NRS truly showed us what they could do with a 3D era character in a 2D gameplay environment, improving on every single aspect of him. Personally, I preferred his look in MK9 over MKX, but his gameplay in MKX was only improved upon.
Both Tanya and Bo'Rai Cho were not all that popular, yet NRS did an awesome job with both of them in MKX. They both look good and their gameplay was given the same treatment as Kenshi's was, and improved upon probably ten-fold.

I dare say ALL characters from previous games who were in MK9 and MKX are all heavily improved upon. My personal opinion, MK9 and MKX are the best games in the series to date. And all characters who were in those games heavily benefitted from it.

And because of that, I believe NRS could take any character from the past games and make them into something awesome, because as is proven, they already did so with other characters that weren't all that liked in the community.

My only complaint is how some characters are treated in the Story Mode. Some of them are just cannon fodder, however, it became better in MKX. The only character(s) who weren't really anything more than random henchmen were Ferra/Torr. Though not all that important, Reptile and Ermac still had their roles to fill, mostly in the coup against Mileena. But because of the nature of the Story Mode, the characters weren't all that explored. That said, it is still the best Story Mode of any fighting game so far.
 
Nasty_Freak said:
Sounds good but I'll make a few additions.

* Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Raiden (Dark), Liu Kang (Revenant), Kitana (Revenant), Mileena (Revenant), Kung Lao (Revenant), and Sindel (Revenant).

* Kenshi, Tanya, Fujin, Li Mei, Kai, Taven, Daegon, and Sareena. (FORGET Bo Rai Cho.)

* Cassie Cage, Jaqqui Briggs, Takeda, Kung Jin, D'Vorah, Erron Black, Triborg, and Kotal Kahn.

* Kano or Kano's Son or Tremor (One to represent the Black Dragon.) and Reptile

* Goro (Unlockable)

* Final Boss: Onaga (Unlockable)

** I don't think we need new characters anymore.

* DLC:
UMK3/MK9: Noob Saibot, and Jade (Possessed by the Mystery Woman and/or not depending on her variations.)
Post MK3: Hotaru and Nitara (Characters that introduce new realms.)
Guests: Kyle Crane (Dying Light) and Catwoman (DC)
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If that's what you want then that's fine, but I'll just stick to what I originally wanted in post #189.
You have a right to your opinion as I do mine.

You want Onaga, Taven Daegon and no more new characters.
I want no Onaga, no Taven, no Daegon and more new characters.
I don't care to see Armageddon ever repeated and I hope that NRS will skip it altogether, this time around.
I'll respectfully agree to disagree with you, before some one else tries to twist my words and turn it into some "Herp, derp, but you think only your opinion matters," 'tard debate.


theincubuslord said:
Sure.
Though not from the 3D era, Stryker was seen as the WORST character of the Trilogy era, and in MK9 he was awesome! Great redesign, great gameplay, overall pretty cool character.
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That depends on who you ask.
I know plenty of people who don't care for Baraka, Sindel or Sheeva, either, but yes, I agree that in MK9 and MKX the Trilogy cast and post-MK3 characters got a good revamp.
While I may not care for all the revamped characters, I also believe that NRS can take any character from the past and greatly improve them.
 
Commander said:
That depends on who you ask.
I know plenty of people who don't care for Baraka, Sindel or Sheeva, either, but yes, I agree that in MK9 and MKX the Trilogy cast and post-MK3 characters got a good revamp.
While I may not care for all the revamped characters, I also believe that NRS can take any character from the past and greatly improve them.
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There are characters I don't care for that have been repetitive all the way throughout the series, but as soon the character actually evolves or gets a good redesign, I can appreciate that.

For example, I have no love for Scorpion, but his story in the MKX comic shows that he can indeed evolve as a character, and I think that's cool! Also for Tremor, who was not even a real character imo, got an awesome redesign in MKX! I still don't care about him, but NRS truly did an amazing job with his gameplay.

But sadly, there are people in this community who would rather kill themselves than admit they were wrong about anything. XD
 
theincubuslord said:
Sure.
Though not from the 3D era, Stryker was seen as the WORST character of the Trilogy era, and in MK9 he was awesome! Great redesign, great gameplay, overall pretty cool character.
Kenshi was already a somewhat popular character from the 3D era, but in MK9 NRS truly showed us what they could do with a 3D era character in a 2D gameplay environment, improving on every single aspect of him. Personally, I preferred his look in MK9 over MKX, but his gameplay in MKX was only improved upon.
Both Tanya and Bo'Rai Cho were not all that popular, yet NRS did an awesome job with both of them in MKX. They both look good and their gameplay was given the same treatment as Kenshi's was, and improved upon probably ten-fold.

I dare say ALL characters from previous games who were in MK9 and MKX are all heavily improved upon. My personal opinion, MK9 and MKX are the best games in the series to date. And all characters who were in those games heavily benefitted from it.

And because of that, I believe NRS could take any character from the past games and make them into something awesome, because as is proven, they already did so with other characters that weren't all that liked in the community.

My only complaint is how some characters are treated in the Story Mode. Some of them are just cannon fodder, however, it became better in MKX. The only character(s) who weren't really anything more than random henchmen were Ferra/Torr. Though not all that important, Reptile and Ermac still had their roles to fill, mostly in the coup against Mileena. But because of the nature of the Story Mode, the characters weren't all that explored. That said, it is still the best Story Mode of any fighting game so far.
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stryker is not from 3d era so that point is moot by default

kenshi is boon's favorite and was always rather popular

tanya and bo rai cho are dlc and basically add nothing to the story

if we go by gameplay only then why not create new characters instead? picking some random schmuck and doing a revamp serves no purpose.

3d era character can work if he brings something original on the table already, and something that doesn't conflict with the current set of characters. imo that's why characters like fujin or havik can work. else we're going to have 4 scorpions, 3 sub-zeros, and the other 51 recolours that belong in a mugen compilation game.
 
Xenon said:
stryker is not from 3d era so that point is moot by default

kenshi is boon's favorite and was always rather popular

tanya and bo rai cho are dlc and basically add nothing to the story

if we go by gameplay only then why not create new characters instead? picking some random schmuck and doing a revamp serves no purpose.

3d era character can work if he has something original on the table already, and something that doesn't conflict with the current set of characters. imo that's why characters like fujin or havik can work. else we're going to have 4 scorpions, 3 sub-zeros, and the other 51 recolours that belong in a mugen compilation game.
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The point was to show you how NRS redesigned characters well into the newer games. I did that. Take it as you will.
 
theincubuslord said:
There are characters I don't care for that have been repetitive all the way throughout the series, but as soon the character actually evolves or gets a good redesign, I can appreciate that.

For example, I have no love for Scorpion, but his story in the MKX comic shows that he can indeed evolve as a character, and I think that's cool! Also for Tremor, who was not even a real character imo, got an awesome redesign in MKX! I still don't care about him, but NRS truly did an amazing job with his gameplay.

But sadly, there are people in this community who would rather kill themselves than admit they were wrong about anything. XD
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Agreed.
That said, I can appreciate a good revamp too, but it doesn't mean that I'll like the character any more than I did before.
It just means that I appreciate the effort that went into it.
Baraka, Sindel, Stryker, Sheeva and Kano all got good gameplay revamps, imo, but I still didn't and still don't care for their gameplay or as characters.
NRS gave me no reason to care for them.
Gameplay-wise I got into Kano in MK9 for quite some time and would even do Tag Team battles using him and Rain or using him and Nightwolf.
Then NRS suddenly nerfed the him to death, when he didn't really need it.
Baraka got a good revamp, but I didn't care for his gameplay in MK9, as was the case with Sindel, Sheeva and Stryker.
On top of that, NRS never evolved those 4 characters beyond just being generic hench-men (or hench-women).
Hell, 4 of them are still generic cameo hench-men (and hench-women) in MKX.
Nightwolf, on the other hand, became my 1 of my 3 mains in MK9.
 
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