REO's new Tier List

Alright, i've figured out what all the glitches are: Also Reo edited the list, Riaden is now glitch tier, jax is S tier(top tier)

Glitch Tier:

Raiden - Block inf - F2, vicinity blast, repeat. can be avoided by ducking f2 and it doesn't work on low hitbox characters
Reptile- Invisible force ball - heres one way ti do it, anti air EX Forceball, time it late when they land and block it, the glitch happens.
Cyrax - 80% combo potential. Don't know the button sequence, sorry

S tier:
Jax - Block infinate - 1,2, Gotcha Grab, repeat. Apparently its really easy to escape thoughg, according to TB. Duck the grab
 
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Cyrax has undoubtely one of the best sets of enhanced specials in the entire game. Not using them should be a crime! Way worthier than his x-ray, I ADORE characters that you'd prefer to use enchanced specials than just to waste meter bars on a x-ray. Cyrax and Kitana are two of those, specially considering their x-rays are too weak and have barely combo potential. I'd include Nightwolf here but his x-ray still holds the place of one of the most devastating ones after a combo, so...
 
Voncroy said:
Cyrax has undoubtely one of the best sets of enhanced specials in the entire game. Not using them should be a crime! Way worthier than his x-ray, I ADORE characters that you'd prefer to use enchanced specials than just to waste meter bars on a x-ray. Cyrax and Kitana are two of those, specially considering their x-rays are too weak and have barely combo potential. I'd include Nightwolf here but his x-ray still holds the place of one of the most devastating ones after a combo, so...
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Agreed. I usually use all of my meter with Cyrax on EX specials. I only use the X-Ray when I can't seem to land a good EX special or I'm just finishing off the match.
 
Here are the videos for GLITCH tier:

Jax block infinite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVt5wiq7umo&feature=player_embedded


Raiden block infinite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6G0hdQH2nE&feature=player_embedded


Reptile's EN force ball glitch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2hA7ycx2lE&feature=related


Cyrax's 80% combo potential via inescapable resets/bomb traps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeLaczuOegQ&feature=player_embedded


EDIT: We're currently hearing mixed reports about the block infinites.. Still not clear if they are true infs. Problem is practice mode is so damn buggy. What works in practice mode doesn't always work on humans. Go figure.

If only we had frame data then we could easily see what are all the block infinites in the game. But since we don't have frame data and since training mode is so buggy, then we can only test on humans to be 100% sure.
 
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Vulcan Hades said:
Still not clear if Jax's 1, 2 xx gotcha grab is a true infinite. Problem is practice mode is so damn buggy. What works in practice mode doesn't always work on humans. Go figure.

If only we had frame data then we could easily see what are all the block infinites in the game. But since we don't have frame data and since training mode is so buggy, then we can only test on humans to be 100% sure.
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Yeah, the sooner DrDogg gets the frame data posted the better. He's got a bunch of characters down from what I've seen, but not all of them yet. I've recently started digging into frame data and was really glad to see Sub-Zero's get finished up. It's so nice to be able to check that kinda stuff out lol.
 
Regarding the Invisible forceball, I've been playing on the ladder and occaisionally I'll do force ball and the CPU jumps over it and roughly 3-5 seconds later it will randomly hit them. This has happened quite a lot but I do not know how to trigger it.
 
3mag5num7 said:
Yeah, the sooner DrDogg gets the frame data posted the better. He's got a bunch of characters down from what I've seen, but not all of them yet. I've recently started digging into frame data and was really glad to see Sub-Zero's get finished up. It's so nice to be able to check that kinda stuff out lol.
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am i the only one that absolutly LOVES frame data? cant wait for all my mains to get it lol.
 
3mag5num7 said:
Yeah, the sooner DrDogg gets the frame data posted the better. He's got a bunch of characters down from what I've seen, but not all of them yet. I've recently started digging into frame data and was really glad to see Sub-Zero's get finished up. It's so nice to be able to check that kinda stuff out lol.
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The guys at TYM only did execution/start up frames so far though.. Advantage on hit/on block is the most important chunk of frame data but it's harder to calculate.

I wish more people helped DrDogg with this, seems like he's the only one really dedicated on getting this info out. I would certainly help but I'm not sure I understand the calculation method he's using. He has a more complex approach than mine but in the end it gives more accurate numbers so it's cool.
 
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aedanwolfe said:
am i the only one that absolutly LOVES frame data? cant wait for all my mains to get it lol.
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Hell no you're not lol. I'm all over that shit.

Vulcan Hades said:
The guys at TYM only did execution/start up frames so far though..

Advantage on hit/on block is the most important chunk of frame data but it's harder to calculate.

I wish more people helped DrDogg with this, seems like he's the only one really dedicated on getting this info out. I would certainly help but I'm not sure I understand the calculation method he's using. He has a more complex approach than mine but in the end it gives more accurate numbers so it's cool.

So far I used the jump method to calculate Stryker's frame data. It's not entirely accurate but it gives a pretty good estimate. (there's like a 2 frames margin of error at worst)
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Yeah, I'd be way over my head if I tried to help. I'm still learning what it all means, honestly lol. It sucks that so few people on TYM either know how or are willing to help out.

aedanwolfe said:
would be amazing if nrs would just realease the info.../sigh, makes me cry a little.
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Yeah, it's rather disappointing that NRS is holding back. ='(
 
Of course he's right...we obviously don't have to question reptile, cyrax has the biggest damaging combos in the game ( i have more than 10 combos ranging from 58 to 75% with one bar and 71% to 87% with 3, and still working on a 92 to 93% i discovered i while back) and finally to all the idiots who don't realize that jax isn't top tier, he has one of the best close range games, has a infinite death combo and if he has meter and puts you in the corner you're basically dead.
 
WTF Man said:
... and finally to all the idiots who don't realize that jax isn't top tier,....has a infinite death combo.
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but this isn't meant to be in the game. It's an unfortunate bug that will be removed. So, I think that needs to be taken into account. That is actually something that is broken, not intended.
 
Wow, suddenly Jax is a god. A couple a weeks ago he was a damn low tier.

Anyway, I´m really impressed with the Reptile glitch, that works online too? Cause is pure b***shit.

The list? Kano is top (with Reptile, Cyrax and Raiden), Kung Lao is A with a couple of more character. Sonya medium is totally fine (and is my third main!). Jax medium, too.

Mileena high tier? I KNEW IT!! In my opinion, the best female in the cast.
 
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Of course he's right...we obviously don't have to question reptile, cyrax has the biggest damaging combos in the game ( i have more than 10 combos ranging from 58 to 75% with one bar and 71% to 87% with 3, and still working on a 92 to 93% i discovered i while back) and finally to all the idiots who don't realize that jax isn't top tier, he has one of the best close range games, has a infinite death combo and if he has meter and puts you in the corner you're basically dead.
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Cyrax will be nerfed again. He was never supposedto be able to do that much damage. The only question is before or after evo. Also, the list changed again.

Top Tier:
Reptile, Cyrax, Kung Lao, Raiden

Upper Mid Tier:
Kabal, Nightwolf, Johnny Cage, Sub-Zero, Kitana, Sektor, Liu Kang, Jade, Mileena, Skarlet

Mid Tier:
Smoke, Cyber Sub-Zero, Kano, Ermac, Noob, Sonya, Shang Tsung

Lower Tier:
Sindel, Scorpion, Jax, Quan Chi

Bottom Tier:
Sheeva, Baraka, Stryker
 
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Hotaru said:
The list? Kano is top (with Reptile, Cyrax and Raiden), Kung Lao is A with a couple of more character. Sonya medium is totally fine (and is my third main!). Jax medium, too.
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Kano doesn't fit in there with those three because that top level of REO's tier list is pretty much Glitch Tier. Those characters have glitches that can be abused and thus they're in a class all their own. I'm not saying those four can't be your top four strongest characters, just saying that in the context of REO's tier list, those three are ranked so high because of their glitches.

ermacsdshit said:
Cyrax will be nerfed again. He was never supposedto be able to do that much damage. The only question is before or after evo.
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I don't really see them patching him before Evo. Players that are going to Evo have been practicing with characters the way they are now and to make such a drastic change right before the major tournament would seriously shake their shit up and I don't see NRS doing that.
 
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