No love for Lex?

I thought it was lol. When I went back to read what you said I was like "But Magneto has the easiest infinite in the game"

XD
 
Lex is godlike within range but requires a lot of thinking. AGE FAB has a Lex worth learning from... he barley uses any combos. Lex not as cut and dry as most characters, there alot of strategy involved in his specials, you don't just throw them out there.
 
It's easy to zone with Deathstroke, that doesn't mean he's easy to use. I don't even use him anymore, so I'm not biased. Ares isn't a super simple character if that's what you're implying.
 
Deathstroke is actually extremely complex - Rush down skills, vortex options, zone reads, as well as his meta game... people see ds and automatically think full screen zoner because thats how people play him but when they get rushed down by lets say a Aris DS type of player they cry about his damage.... The poor character got hit in both zoning and damage but was beatable..... people just wanted the easy way out and got it.
 
rikolaw said:
Deathstroke is actually extremely complex - Rush down skills, vortex options, zone reads, as well as his meta game... people see ds and automatically think full screen zoner because thats how people play him but when they get rushed down by lets say a Aris DS type of player they cry about his damage.... The poor character got hit in both zoning and damage but was beatable..... people just wanted the easy way out and got it.
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Are you talking about the chip damage nerf? I actually agreed with that decision. His guns were doing a little too much damage on block.

Even with the low shots nerf, he's still able to zone out a large portion of the roster. The only difference is he's a little less brain dead.
 
rikolaw said:
He is far from braindead - easy tools but hard to master since his high damage combos won't link online. 323, 12 is about a 1 frame link
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He's braindead enough to win against 90% of people who play online which is all 99% of people on this site will care about. Oh look, that's another response to you. Don't forget to try and work your penis into your reply.
 
rikolaw said:
Deathstroke is actually extremely complex - Rush down skills, vortex options, zone reads, as well as his meta game... people see ds and automatically think full screen zoner because thats how people play him but when they get rushed down by lets say a Aris DS type of player they cry about his damage.... The poor character got hit in both zoning and damage but was beatable..... people just wanted the easy way out and got it.
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What a load of rubbish.

DS is an appallingly designed character. Anyone that signs off on a design that allows people to smash out spam over and over doesn't understand game design. It's boring and tedious. Whether or not it's beatable isn't even the issue. It shouldn't have been in the game at all. This is a fighting game, it should be about two players interacting. Not trying to dodge really quick projectiles over and over and over - and beating it is far from easy. These people whining about how he's been ruined have no clue.
 
strangeotron said:
What a load of rubbish.

DS is an appallingly designed character. Anyone that signs off on a design that allows people to smash out spam over and over doesn't understand game design. It's boring and tedious. Whether or not it's beatable isn't even the issue. It shouldn't have been in the game at all. This is a fighting game, it should be about two players interacting. Not trying to dodge really quick projectiles over and over and over - and beating it is far from easy. These people whining about how he's been ruined have no clue.
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Just going to drop this here.. Maybe You'll learn something.

iViTal said:
I respect people who have the balls to lame it out the entire round, it's really fun dodging and slowly working my way into a lame Sagat or Saibot player, One it teaches me how to be patient and how to read my opponent instead of just desperately rushing my way in, in an attempt to get the fight up close.

I also enjoy playing lame, It's a test of patience and space control on the screen. The Sub v Cage match up is my favorite in MK, Chip away with D+4 or Space a jump in just right so He'll whiff a anti air B+3 and punish him for it. People often complain that if you play lame you have no fundamentals but space control is a part of learning the fundamentals of most fighters.
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strangeotron said:
What a load of rubbish.

DS is an appallingly designed character. Anyone that signs off on a design that allows people to smash out spam over and over doesn't understand game design. It's boring and tedious. Whether or not it's beatable isn't even the issue. It shouldn't have been in the game at all. This is a fighting game, it should be about two players interacting. Not trying to dodge really quick projectiles over and over and over - and beating it is far from easy. These people whining about how he's been ruined have no clue.
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zoning is a big part of the game, If you hate DS then you must hate half the cast.

green lantern, superman, raven, black atom, aquaman, nightwing, lex, cyborg, harley, sinestro, hawkgirl.
 
rikolaw said:
zoning is a big part of the game, If you hate DS then you must hate half the cast.

green lantern, superman, raven, black atom, aquaman, nightwing, lex, cyborg, harley, sinestro, hawkgirl.
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Do you know what a straw man argument is?

You keep saying 'zoning is a big part of the game' as if THIS kind of far too excessive zoning is the ONLY way it can and should be done? DS is beyond ridiculous - as are other characters. playing Sinestro just feels cheap. It's lame: spam spam spam. You don't need to do anything else and quickly the game becomes pathetic.

Whoever playtested this ought to be fired.
 
iViTal said:
Just going to drop this here.. Maybe You'll learn something.
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I have no interest in your or anyone else's respect. It means nothing to me. This is a video game, I play for entertainment. I am more than content to learn characters and play the game properly, but I'm not stupid enough to pretend that this game does not have major faults. It was clearly not intended for serious play despite apparently being playtested by serious players (none of whom i bet ever touched an xbox pad in doing so).

This game will be dead by this time next year. Guaranteed.
 
strangeotron said:
I have no interest in your or anyone else's respect. It means nothing to me. This is a video game, I play for entertainment. I am more than content to learn characters and play the game properly, but I'm not stupid enough to pretend that this game does not have major faults. It was clearly not intended for serious play despite apparently being playtested by serious players (none of whom i bet ever touched an xbox pad in doing so).

This game will be dead by this time next year. Guaranteed.
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It's funny how you mentioned the testers and called them braindead, when the people who tested the game are Professional Competitive players, and if you're content to learn the characters and play the game properly You'd adapt and trying to find ways around zoning and train yourself mentally to deal with the "Major Faults" that have been in 2D fighters for the longest.
 
iViTal said:
It's funny how you mentioned the testers and called them braindead, when the people who tested the game are Professional Competitive players, and if you're content to learn the characters and play the game properly You'd adapt and trying to find ways around zoning and train yourself mentally to deal with the "Major Faults" that have been in 2D fighters for the longest.
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You're just not receiving are you.

Why would I want to adapt to something that isn't worth my time? What is the reward? Do it again? Play the same tired ass shit the next time i encounter one of the many zone spammers in this game? You are completely missing the point.

These testers call themselves pro players yet they couldn't do their jobs properly: why didn't they say anything about how useless Lex Luthor is? Why didn't they say anything about how useless Joker's trait is?
 
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