New Characters for MK10

Tarkatan Trash said:
Jerrod had FAR more political power over Edenia than Argus, plus the former's soul is contained within Ermac. On top of that, Rain is an illegitimate child of Argus; historically, illegitimate children were completely excluded from the line of succession. Ermac is the rightful ruler of Edenia.
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Jerrod's soul isn't the controlling soul in Ermac's body, nor is it the ONLY soul in Ermac's body.
There are 999 other souls in there, as well.
Arcade ladder endings are hypothetical until NRS decides which ones will and will not come true for MK10.
If the MK9 ending is anything to go by Ermac more than likely gives less than 2 shits about ruler of Edenia, and is probably just happy to be free of Shao Kahn's power, once and for all.
The main story is what dictates what will happen in MK10, not ladder endings.

If MK9 ladder endings dictate the outcome for MK10 then Sub-Zero is still alive, Liu Kang is a god, Smoke is a demon, Sheeva is the ruler of Australia and all the other bullshit MK9 endings are also true.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
Jerrod's soul isn't the controlling soul in Ermac's body, nor is it the ONLY soul in Ermac's body.
There are 999 other souls in there, as well.
Arcade ladder endings are hypothetical until NRS decides which ones will and will not come true for MK10.
If the MK9 ending is anything to go by Ermac more than likely gives less than 2 shits about ruler of Edenia, and is probably just happy to be free of Shao Kahn's power, once and for all.
The main story is what dictates what will happen in MK10, not ladder endings.

If ladder endings dictated the outcome for MK10 then Sub-Zero is still alive, Liu Kang is a god, Smoke is a demon, Sheeva is the ruler of Australia and all the other bullshit MK9 endings are also true.
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Ladder endings have dictated the story of the next MK for years; why can't that be the case now?

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Tarkatan Trash said:
Ladder endings have dictated the story of the next MK for years; why can't that be the case now?
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Ladder endings dictated the story when there where no actual cut-scenes or story modes in MK (MK1 thru UMK3).
Ever since MK4 and cut-scenes, the visual story mode has dictated the story outcomes for all the games to follow.

Need proof?



The MK4 story went straight into the MK: Deadly Alliance story:
Quan Chi escaped from the Netherrealm after MK4, after Raiden had sent him there.
Quan Chi then unlocked the secret of the ancient Rune Stone, discovered the ancient undefeatable army of the long forgotten Dragon King, and formed an alliance with Shang Tsung.


The MK: Deadly Alliance story went straight into the MK: Deception story.
Raiden's Earthrealm champions had failed to stop the Deadly Alliance from fully resurrecting the mummified army of the Dragon King.
Raiden was then at a point where he tried to align himself with Shang Tsung and Quan Chi to get rid of the dragon king.


The MK: Deception went straight into the MK: Armageddon story.
Armageddon continued Deception's story as all the characters were becoming to powerful and tried to reach the top of Blaze's pyramid.


MKvsDC is a non-canon side-story so the story skips to MK9, from Armageddon.


The MK: Armageddon story goes straight into the MK9 story.
All the fighters were shown to have died in Armageddon with Dark Raiden and Shao Kahn being the only ones left.
Dark Raiden (from the Armageddon time) sends visions to MK1 Raiden, warning himself of all that will go wrong.
Thus, the new rebooted timeline begins.


It's pretty obvious that the MK10 story will pick up from the ending events of MK9, and not the events of individual MK9 ladder endings.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
Ladder endings dictated the story when there where no actual cut-scenes or story modes in MK (MK1 thru UMK3).
Ever since MK4 and cut-scenes, the visual story mode has dictated the story outcomes for all the games to follow.

Need proof?



The MK4 story went straight into the MK: Deadly Alliance story:
Quan Chi escaped from the Netherrealm after MK4, after Raiden had sent him there.
Quan Chi then unlocked the secret of the ancient Rune Stone, discovered the ancient undefeatable army of the long forgotten Dragon King, and formed an alliance with Shang Tsung.


The MK: Deadly Alliance story went straight into the MK: Deception story.
Raiden's Earthrealm champions had failed to stop the Deadly Alliance from fully resurrecting the mummified army of the Dragon King.
Raiden was then at a point where he tried to align himself with Shang Tsung and Quan Chi to get rid of the dragon king.


The MK: Deception went straight into the MK: Armageddon story.
Armageddon continued Deception's story as all the characters were becoming to powerful and tried to reach the top of Blaze's pyramid.


MKvsDC is a non-canon side-story so the story skips to MK9, from Armageddon.


The MK: Armageddon story goes straight into the MK9 story.
All the fighters were shown to have died in Armageddon with Dark Raiden and Shao Kahn being the only ones left.
Dark Raiden (from the Armageddon time) sends visions to MK1 Raiden, warning himself of all that will go wrong.
Thus, the new rebooted timeline begins.


It's pretty obvious that the MK10 story will pick up from the ending events of MK9, and not the events of individual MK9 ladder endings.
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Ladder endings still carry seniority over story modes due to higher establishment rate. If story modes took priority, then Taven was the winner of Armageddon. The fact that it was Shao Kahn obviously dispels that.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
Ladder endings still carry seniority over story modes due to higher establishment rate.
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No, only prior to MK4.


Tarkatan Trash said:
If story modes took priority, then Taven was the winner of Armageddon. The fact that it was Shao Kahn obviously dispels that.
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The fact that it was Shao Kahn and Raiden doesn't dispell that.
Shao Kahn was never dead.
Raiden was never confirmed dead either.
Kahn was taken away by Onaga.
Taken away by Onaga =/= dead.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
No, only prior to MK4.




The fact that it was Shao Kahn and Raiden doesn't dispell that.
Shao Kahn was never dead.
Raiden was never confirmed dead either.
Kahn was taken away by Onaga.
Taken away by Onaga =/= dead.
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Taven still won Armageddon according to Armageddon's own story ending. How does Shao Kahn winning according to MK9's intro coexist with that? It's impossible. Therefore, Armageddon's story mode ending is not canon, which means MK9's story mode ending is vulnerable to being rejected.

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Mortal Kombat Armageddon was also cited as being the last Mortal Kombat game
MK9 is a reboot with a cliffhanger ending.

Logistics or not, smart money is on MK9's story being canon for MK10
 
back said:
Mortal Kombat Armageddon was also cited as being the last Mortal Kombat game
MK9 is a reboot with a cliffhanger ending.

Logistics or not, smart money is on MK9's story being canon for MK10
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The only way I will recognize MK9's story mode as canon for MK10 is if I see it with my own eyes in MK10. The MK team has had a well-documented history of bait-and-switching, and because of that, I can't take very much at face value, but one thing that hasn't been bait-and-switched is ending details that take place pre-game (such as Kabal's former occupation, the authenticity of Shinnok's amulet, Noob Saibot's identity, just to name a few)

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back said:
Mortal Kombat Armageddon was also cited as being the last Mortal Kombat game
MK9 is a reboot with a cliffhanger ending.

Logistics or not, smart money is on MK9's story being canon for MK10
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^^^^
THIS!!!!!
This, all freaking day.

@Tarkatan
A) Midway thought that Armageddon was going to be the last game, hence the name"Armageddon" (as in the end of the world), plus the end of the world scenario where the lines between enemies and friends was blurred.
B) NRS had to revamp the story a bit, to make it fit the reboot scenario.

and finally,

C) As BBBLP mentioned, MK9 ended on a cliffhanger ending, leading up to the new MK4 timeline, with Shinnok and Quan Chi.
It serves them no purpose to end MK9 on a cliffhanger, just to have MK10 begin somewhere else.
That just makes no sense.


Tarkatan Trash said:
The only way I will recognize MK9's story mode as canon for MK10 is if I see it with my own eyes in MK10. The MK team has had a well-documented history of bait-and-switching, and because of that, I can't take very much at face value, but one thing that hasn't been bait-and-switched is ending details that take place pre-game (such as Kabal's former occupation, the authenticity of Shinnok's amulet, Noob Saibot's identity, just to name a few)
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Noob Saibot's identity was never a bait-and-switch.
He was just an unknown warrior, and it wasn't discovered until later that he actually was Bi-Han.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
Noob Saibot's identity was never a bait-and-switch.
He was just an unknown warrior, and it wasn't discovered until later that he actually was Bi-Han.
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Which is exactly what I said; that all pre-game story details mentioned in endings were never bait-and-switched. Each and every time, such details have consistently been recognized as canon, regardless of whether the ending itself was canon.

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MK9 is the new canon, though, and was left on a cliffhanger.
So, to not have MK10 pick up where MK9 left off would be illogical, considering that MK9 didn't really have a finite ending and was more of a "To be continued......"


Tarkatan Trash said:
Which is exactly what I said; that all pre-game story details mentioned in endings were never bait-and-switched. Each and every time, such details have consistently been recognized as canon, regardless of whether the ending itself was canon.
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While those things are true, the general game ending story canon has carried over from game to game.
Again, MK9 had to alter some of those things because MK: A was believed to be the last game at the time, but for the most part, story canon carries over to the next game.
Shinnok and Quan Chi will likely continue on the plan set in MK9 for MK10, to attack Earth now that its defenses are weakened.



Btw, I thought I heard an annoying fly, just now.
Oh, well, I just ignored him.
No need to read anymore of his spewed garbage.
 
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Idk why this is even being argued. Most know by now that the story is usually a mix of story and ladder endings. Some ladder endings are true, some aren't. It's usually a mixed bag. However, sometimes not all things from story are true, just like not all things from endings are true. Like Taven winning Armageddon, that clearly wasn't true. That's just one example. Im sure with some searching some more could be picked out.

I fully believe that not everything which happened in storymode in Mk9 will stick. Things happen off screen or are ambiguous. We are left wondering if Liu Kang is dead or alive at the end. That's one example.

Another good example is that there are clones in Mk. Shinnok, and Shao Kahn have both pulled off the clone thing if Im not mistaken. Honest to god I would not be surprised if this happens again. (Im just saying we didnt see Kuai Liang getting ripped apart. We seen him get abducted, then seen a cyborg sub-zero. Who knows?)

As much as I love Mk's story, it cannot be predicted from one game to the next, and honestly I guess I like it like that. Things don't always add up, but that's how they keep us guessing. Im sure some of you will be pissed if the next story doesn't exactly follow the last, I for one will not be though.

Now guys list characters from Mk9 that you think have an HONEST shot at returning or who could serve some importance. I want the end of Mk10's story to end in a huge civil war with some dying FOR GOOD.
 
People, chill out. Posts were deleted, if anyone else flames, don't participate, you look just as bad as the one who started it.
 
For MK9 returning characters in MK10, my hypothesis is:


Alive:

Scorpion
Ermac
Reptile
Johnny Cage
Mileena
Cyrax
Sektor
Sonya
Kano
Baraka
Raiden
Sheeva
Quan Chi
Skarlet
Kenshi
Rain


Questionable if dead or alive, as of MK9:

Liu Kang
Noob Saibot


Dead:

Kung Lao
Sub-Zero
Sindel
Kitana
Jade
Nightwolf
Smoke
Jax
Stryker
Shang Tsung
Kabal
Cyber Sub-Zero


I'm hoping that Liu Kang and Sub-Zero (preferably human) both come back, as either story unlockables, Krypt unlockables or on the main roster from the start.
I SERIOUSLY hope that NRS doesn't pull some move of charging $5 each to get Sub-Zero and Liu Kang as DLC, given that those 2 are MK icons to begin with, and should be on the main roster.
They don't have to be involved in the story, but at the very least they should be Krypt unlockables, since they ARE dead.
 
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Araknyd_Commander said:
For MK9 returning characters in MK10, my hypothesis is:


Alive:

Scorpion
Ermac
Reptile
Johnny Cage
Mileena
Cyrax
Sektor
Sonya
Kano
Baraka
Raiden
Sheeva
Quan Chi
Skarlet
Kenshi
Rain


Questionable if dead or alive, as of MK9:

Liu Kang
Noob Saibot


Dead:

Kung Lao
Sub-Zero
Sindel
Kitana
Jade
Nightwolf
Smoke
Jax
Stryker
Shang Tsung
Kabal
Cyber Sub-Zero


I'm hoping that Liu Kang and Sub-Zero (preferably human) both come back, as either story unlockables, Krypt unlockables or on the main roster from the start.
I SERIOUSLY hope that NRS doesn't pull some move of charging $5 each to get Sub-Zero and Liu Kang as DLC, given that those 2 are MK icons to begin with, and should be on the main roster.
They don't have to be involved in the story, but at the very least they should be Krypt unlockables, since they ARE dead.
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You're probably gonna hate this but I believe Liu Kang and Noob Saibot can come back. However, Kuai Liang may not but MK10 will have an ice character which is Frost. Noob Saibot will most likely have his dark powers still.

Or

Bi Han and Noob will be separated into 2 leaving Bi Han with ice powers and Noob with dark powers. Still, Frost will most likely be in.
 
Actually i dont even want new characters. Everytime theres new characters, theres something weird new stuff.... Like changin fightin styles or 3d fighting, that isnt what MK is about.

I theres Mk10, i only wish that its MK9 with new graphics, and a little more normal type of bodies. No muscular giant women with weirdly big t*ts. And without X-ray's.
 
Awesome one said:
New character(s) (maybe even combine them into one) e.g.
Female with nature powers like poison ivy. (woman in jade’s ending?)
Female witch doctor
Female samurai
Female humanoid character that is not the exact same height as every other character
Female cyborg (Frost? )
White ninja with lantern powers
Khrome with liquid metal powers like the T-1000 from Terminator 2.
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That's not a new character, that's Smoke!

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck!

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Awesome one said:
New character(s) (maybe even combine them into one) e.g.
Female with nature powers like poison ivy. (woman in jade’s ending?)
Female witch doctor
Female samurai
Female humanoid character that is not the exact same height as every other character
Female cyborg (Frost? )
White ninja with lantern powers
Khrome with liquid metal powers like the T-1000 from Terminator 2.
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I'd rather have a twisted dominatrix chick with a chainsaw. :)

Also, a twisted female nurse who can heal herself during battle would be good.
 
Nasty_Freak said:
You're probably gonna hate this but I believe Liu Kang and Noob Saibot can come back. However, Kuai Liang may not but MK10 will have an ice character which is Frost. Noob Saibot will most likely have his dark powers still.

Or

Bi Han and Noob will be separated into 2 leaving Bi Han with ice powers and Noob with dark powers. Still, Frost will most likely be in.
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If they even try to replace Sub-Zero with Frost then F*** them. I wont even touch that game, even when it goes on sale.

I honestly don't like the soulnaro idea. The more I think about it I don't like it. It will definitely make Bi-Han just like Kuai Liang in character. If it doesn't then that's a huge plothole because he should be purified completely. Im telling you guys the Neutral aligned Sub-Zero you want is dead unless a new character comes along. If you are going to do the soulnado thing then might as well just bring Kuai Liang back from the dead like he will be anyway when everyone is mass resurrected. Im just saying one way or another he's still going to be "Goody two-shoes" Sub-Zero. Which is why you guys want Bi-Han back in the first place to have a neutral or bad Sub-Zero and it ain't happening.

Also for new characters Im still sticking with my character Lillith.

The netherrealm invasion had began and the living forest knew their lives were at stake. Using all of their energy and resources the living forest created Lillith. A walking talking form of the living forest. Her duty is to help stop the netherrealm invasion or watch her creators, her family go up in flames.
 
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