Mortal Kombat HD Remix with MUGEN

[Tom]

Uker is freaking awesome man. So is interloko. So is bleed.
I love Cals stages, but he seems too much of the "team leader" type.

If I was Uker, I wouldnt want to be "ART DIRECTOR" either if
1/2 the game was made before I had any real input.

@KOMBAT - Doubtful your the #1 fan bro, Thats all me, all day! (j/k)

 

[RigoHoward]

i have been lmao with the last comments (nice one señor mos3s).

Keep it up the good work fellows!



Enviado con uno de aquellos.

 

[CARZ]

MrMos3s: "Got it, and already made most of those changes yesterday."
MrMos3s: "uKER, if you want to do some of the ending shots that would be great but you’ll need to start from scratch using the 3D model rather than altering my renders."
MrMos3s: "Please explain where I became jealous in this big dramatic looking story everyone is putting together?"

The Following User Says Thank You to MrMos3s For All Of This Useful Posts: Calactyte :knuddel:

 

[Tom]

MrMos3s: "Got it, and already made most of those changes yesterday."
MrMos3s: "uKER, if you want to do some of the ending shots that would be great but you’ll need to start from scratch using the 3D model rather than altering my renders."
MrMos3s: "Please explain where I became jealous in this big dramatic looking story everyone is putting together?"

The Following User Says Thank You to MrMos3s For All Of This Useful Posts: Calactyte :knuddel:

I believe you guys were warned about carz/frozenworm by the MK MUGEN community when he 1st came to this thread.
He wants to move progress along so he can steal assets, not because he wants to support the project.
Also, he is hindering adult conversations to help make the team stronger.

TRMK is a double edged sword, lots of exposure here, but the mk1hdr team has no admin or mod powers in the thread. That should deff change. Since this is the single most important topic.

 

[calactyte]

I do talk quite a bit. You should meet me in person. Your ears would bleed with my stupids points. I'm actually less offended then I am humored by your statement though so please don't worry about that.

I'm actually NOT at all a casual MK fan but I think that depends on your perspective right? Do I own an arcade machine in my home? No. It all depends on what you consider casual. Yes I'd like for the people who have worked hard on this project to make money. Why wouldn't I? Why is that a bad thing? Also what does one have to do with the other? If I were a casual MK fan, should that be an insult?

Honestly, callactyte, you talk so much sometimes. Don ´t care if you are working with ppl in a studio or not........ Is more for your info in the manufactured games by midway and nrs, they are very dumbass, why? cause since mkda game, they have not copied with precision the classic actors´s details on characters....... so mrmos3s is a "photoshoper"........ and nobody or few ppl has done the uker´s work. Also with alot perceptive that practically nobody has in mk fan comunity. Do you know what cal? you seem a casual mk fan and casual mk gamer..... i have the impresion that you have more money in your mind than other things..... sorry if i ´ve ofended you, but your points is very stupids.

 

[calactyte]

CARZ,

Please explain to me how I've impeded uKER from making any changes he wanted to this project? Was it when I granted uKER access to dropbox? Was it when uKER offered crits to my backgrounds and I simply handed him the source files to make those changes himself? Why does me thanking MrMos3s mean I'm his best friend in the universe and not seen as me saying "I agree" with him?

MrMos3s: "Got it, and already made most of those changes yesterday."
MrMos3s: "uKER, if you want to do some of the ending shots that would be great but you’ll need to start from scratch using the 3D model rather than altering my renders."
MrMos3s: "Please explain where I became jealous in this big dramatic looking story everyone is putting together?"

The Following User Says Thank You to MrMos3s For All Of This Useful Posts: Calactyte :knuddel:

 

[CARZ]

Right, now I'm a trouble maker. That's going to work: just deviate attention toward me and make bold accusations and even bann me and that will solve the problem of Interloko NOT PROGRAMING as I said long ago, along with what I'm also saying right now.

A bunch of clone/clandestine accounts can start a mugen war over here an point at me as the cause of all problems, but you know what? I already knew I was going to awaken some hate for telling the truth, and I'm beyond drama... just enjoying vacations with my loved ones and having some fun.

Cheers...!

 

[calactyte]

CARZ,

You are a trouble maker. You've been banned here and on several other MK web sites. I personally haven't had a problem with you. In fact I was the one inquiring where you went when you were first banned. You've absolutely freaked out in the past when people didn't agree with you. As far as I know you and I are cool though. If not lets talk about it offline. Otherwise chill out or I'll just put you on ignore. If you are beyond drama then please show us that.

Right, now I'm a trouble maker. That's going to work: just deviate attention toward me and make bold accusations and even bann me and that will solve the problem of Interloko NOT PROGRAMING as I said long ago, along with what I'm also saying right now.

A bunch of clone/clandestine accounts can start a mugen war over here an point at me as the cause of all problems, but you know what? I already knew I was going to awaken some hate for telling the truth, and I'm beyond drama... just enjoying vacations with my loved ones and having some fun.

Cheers...!

 

[calactyte]

uKER,

Honestly I don't know what else I can do to make you feel more welcome. And I'm not about to waste anymore energy on this. I hope you'll stick around. If you don't, I'm not going to cry about it. You'll be honored in the final game regardless. If you'd like to work on Kano's ending which MrMos3s hasn't had the opportunity to work on yet then I'm sure MrMos3s would be cool with you taking a crack at it. Please give that a shot if you are inspired to do so. Please make all of your critiques public going forward. This is so people stop seeing me as some ruthless dictator who cares only about money. Also it helps when everyone is in agreement that something is done or not done.

As for your comment about me jumping in and saying that something is done way in advance, can I ask why you wouldn't just say, "hold on a minute I'm thinking this still needs work?" Just because *I* think something is done, doesn't mean it is. That is why I asked all final art go through you to begin with. Don't you remember that? I can't help your feeling like people are unappreciative. That kind of comes with the territory. If that isn't appealing to you then I 100% agree, take a break. We will be here when/if you come back to us.

 

[calactyte]

Ok I'm declaring this drama over with. uKER is being provided the opportunity to work on Kano's ending. If he does, great. If not, that's fine too. No pressure and nothing to complain about.

Let's talk about how we will move forward. I'm currently working on the Insert Coin screen for Mortal Kombat 2 while I wait for progress here. I'm also taking the advice of a few members here, *uKER included btw* and going back to improve certain parts of the backgrounds for MK1. For instance, I really need to re-do the Dragon's in the throne room.

Arq, MrMos3s, Bleed, LaLuna, Justin and uKER thanks again for all that you do and have done in the past for this project. Onward we march gentlemen.

 

[CARZ]

I think you're a cool, reflexive, guy Cal. You took your time to answer, but the answer was good. My hat off to you Sr.

Edit: And I apologize for my intromission. Wish you all good luck...!

 

[arq_hawkin]

I'm done with liu tym, now I'll work on something else.. soon I'll let you know.

just to let you guys know

 

[londonhellgate]

ok, is the exact reply that i´ve awaited from you "mister humored proffesional". Suddenly, you are blind if you have only "money" on mind......... a pure fan of mk care the details, include in the extreme cases........ is uselles meet to you, cause if you want money first and then want art on mk......" you have not full knowledge in mk franchaise, neither true pasion, more even if you only worked on stages, or shang tsung/goro desing.... mk is so giant for understand......... so. In mk there is not subjetive points(specially in the jhon tobias ´s path), less how depened the perceptives, cause in Mk gold era, there is an onlyone perceptive, "Jhon Tobias". Also, are you copying to ed boon ´s ideology about how manage a mk game and how make money? when i´ve said that mk team was dumbass in the "perceptives" since mkda game was for this reason. If you have not the enougth mk fanatism into your blood, suddenly you are acting like NRS, that in really dont ears "enought" to the fans and always NRS are making "fails" on mk. Remember mk9 no? ohhhh all the female characters seem very whores, or cryax is a stupid bumbeleee, anyways i don´t want talks something that is
distorting the thread... but is a litle example, have i said to you that you are stupid ? no i´ve said that your point are stupids, in really is a reality that you can agree or not, different is the case if i say that you with your points are an asshole. You talk so much "Mr. hummored professional" stage designer....... "stages a part of mk universe not the whole and entire reality of mk".......... also since that i ´ve seen your first progress on stages, lacks alot details, "thanks to uker for earn this on mk hd remix"........................... mmmmmm let me say to you cal: is uker bothering to anyone or you when him show the mk details? ok, ppl that not followed entire this topic, could to think that you are a superb/arrogant if they see to you in the following way:
"ohhhhh im callactyte, i am proffesional, but i have not uker´s knowlege, don´t care the world is big, sorry sorry if you quit uker". My intentions are not unfair with you cal, but you deserve this critics, and again you have not enought knowledge in mk franchaise. Imo you should to have a humble attitudes. Suddenly It happen cause, Mk universe had borned in Jhon tobias ´s mind and you with your team wants to recreate this "game" wihtout jhon tobias/daniel pesina´s pasion............... only i wish that you meditates about this.

 

[uKER]

CARZ,
Please explain to me how I've impeded uKER from making any changes he wanted to this project? Was it when I granted uKER access to dropbox? Was it when uKER offered crits to my backgrounds and I simply handed him the source files to make those changes himself? Why does me thanking MrMos3s mean I'm his best friend in the universe and not seen as me saying "I agree" with him?

Well, that's not exactly how things went down.
I was given access to dropbox in a time when MrMos3s was MIA, and arq was trying to get Liu Kang's statue done.
Being the only available option, I was allowed to have a hand there, and I also did some color/levels correction to Raiden's statue and I was given access so that I could make the changes myself.

Now, the changes to the Throne Room were an entirely different story. Another user, bbyoshi147 had offered to improve the changes and you pretty much blew him off saying that you found it insulting that someone offered to improve your work. See that here.

I guess that that's the type of thing that CARZ talked about when he mentioned the thing about putting one's ego before the project.
It's like being recognized as "the guy who single handedly did X thing" is more important than that thing being good in the final game, even if 10 people have to lend a hand into it.
And while I'm not calling any names here, you're not the only one that has given off that vibe.

Now, I still was concerned about the stages so as a proof of concept and before talking about it with anyone, I made a bunch of changes to Throne Room and presented them to you.
Now, and as I mentioned before, there was some exchange for a while, until one day I sent you some stuff for you to check and like two months passed without you apparently having the time to double click a file and fire up Photoshop to check it out.

Time passed and without you approving them, up to that point I didn't even know whether my changes were going to be used or my time had been wasted.
During that time of uncertainty I ended up throwing away some changes I had made to Goro's Lair, and ignoring some requests other users made about more changes to Throne Room.
Now that's the kind of exchange I'm trying to avoid here.
Passive agressive resistance to suggestions for improvement.

uKER,
Honestly I don't know what else I can do to make you feel more welcome. And I'm not about to waste anymore energy on this. I hope you'll stick around. If you don't, I'm not going to cry about it. You'll be honored in the final game regardless. If you'd like to work on Kano's ending which MrMos3s hasn't had the opportunity to work on yet then I'm sure MrMos3s would be cool with you taking a crack at it.

Please give that a shot if you are inspired to do so.

Well, that wasn't what you said here after MrMos3s had in fact said he was OK with me taking a shot at some of the endings.

Please make all of your critiques public going forward. This is so people stop seeing me as some ruthless dictator who cares only about money. Also it helps when everyone is in agreement that something is done or not done.

I don't see the relation between me making my critiques public and whatever you're being seen as.
Again, I only made my critiques in private because I wanted to avoid unneeded opposition.
As far as arq was fine with it I'd continue giving him feedback without having to put up with bashing for dragging down the project and whatnot.
That, and obviously Skype is a much more direct means for quick exchange than the forum.

As for your comment about me jumping in and saying that something is done way in advance, can I ask why you wouldn't just say, "hold on a minute I'm thinking this still needs work?"

So you're saying that after I say "this still needs work" and you came immediately afterwards and overruled me saying "I think it's ready, let's move on" I was supposed to go in again and overrule you?
I'm not into that either.

Just because *I* think something is done, doesn't mean it is. That is why I asked all final art go through you to begin with. Don't you remember that?

Well, you may have said I had the last word, but when the time came, it didn't always -feel- that way.

I can't help your feeling like people are unappreciative. That kind of comes with the territory. If that isn't appealing to you then I 100% agree, take a break. We will be here when/if you come back to us.

I do agree that that is not up to you.
No need to feel I'm throwing all the blame on your shoulders.
What's fair is fair.

Once again, I'll try to stick around, but I will only go as far as the point when the responses start feeling like "god, not this guy again".
If I'm not wanted, I don't want to do it either.

 

[calactyte]

I'm going to go easy on you because obviously english isn't your first language and that is totally fine. How you could criticize my knowledge of the MK universe through my designs of the backgrounds, well I'm at a loss to respond to that. As for the "Oh I'm a big professional, greater than though attitude..." Ok you have a point. All I do is speak about my past experiences. Take that for what it is worth. If you respect that, fine. If not, cool.

ok, is the exact reply that i´ve awaited from you "mister humored proffesional". Suddenly, you are blind if you have only "money" on mind......... a pure fan of mk care the details, include in the extreme cases........ is uselles meet to you, cause if you want money first and then want art on mk......" you have not full knowledge in mk franchaise, neither true pasion, more even if you only worked on stages, or shang tsung/goro desing.... mk is so giant for understand......... so. In mk there is not subjetive points(specially in the jhon tobias ´s path), less how depened the perceptives, cause in Mk gold era, there is an onlyone perceptive, "Jhon Tobias". Also, are you copying to ed boon ´s ideology about how manage a mk game and how make money? when i´ve said that mk team was dumbass in the "perceptives" since mkda game was for this reason. If you have not the enougth mk fanatism into your blood, suddenly you are acting like NRS, that in really dont ears "enought" to the fans and always NRS are making "fails" on mk. Remember mk9 no? ohhhh all the female characters seem very whores, or cryax is a stupid bumbeleee, anyways i don´t want talks something that is
distorting the thread... but is a litle example, have i said to you that you are stupid ? no i´ve said that your point are stupids, in really is a reality that you can agree or not, different is the case if i say that you with your points are an asshole. You talk so much "Mr. hummored professional" stage designer....... "stages a part of mk universe not the whole and entire reality of mk".......... also since that i ´ve seen your first progress on stages, lacks alot details, "thanks to uker for earn this on mk hd remix"........................... mmmmmm let me say to you cal: is uker bothering to anyone or you when him show the mk details? ok, ppl that not followed entire this topic, could to think that you are a superb/arrogant if they see to you in the following way:
"ohhhhh im callactyte, i am proffesional, but i have not uker´s knowlege, don´t care the world is big, sorry sorry if you quit uker". My intentions are not unfair with you cal, but you deserve this critics, and again you have not enought knowledge in mk franchaise. Imo you should to have a humble attitudes. Suddenly It happen cause, Mk universe had borned in Jhon tobias ´s mind and you with your team wants to recreate this "game" wihtout jhon tobias/daniel pesina´s pasion............... only i wish that you meditates about this.

 

[londonhellgate]

it´s means that your previous experience is not very related with "mk field", except mk hd remix offcourse. You have learned few about mk cal....... everyone can critic your previous mk desings works, "if they have a deep and wise eye for the details". Is no a mistery from you that you have not a huge knowledge on every Mk ´s branches. Is more, include i see that you and your team wants to be very extreme conservatives with the errors that mk1 from midway team had in the past into mk hd remix.......excuse me, this point from you and your team, is not very proffesional and neither is a very fan sense on mk, cause between in the all mk ´s details, a real fan always want to fix those errors........... and you say uker is cheap or less important.
listen again, few ppl in the mk world have the talent of uker........ "details"yes cal, yes "details" when mk for any reason had rumors and "details"............ thank to in the majorie of the things from Jhon Tobias and Dan Pesina.

 

[CARZ]

londonhellgate: Now that's a completely different subject, so I think you should read what was said before and accept it... because you're not in charge, neither is Cal. It's a team and they decide what to do, so what are you waiting? That after discussing this very subject more than once, suddently they all agree with you and make it the way you want?

Not gonna happen, so... quit complaining.

 

[calactyte]

*Sigh* uKER

You really enjoy arguing I see. Or maybe you'd just like the last word? I'm not sure.

Time passed and without you approving them, up to that point I didn't even know whether my changes were going to be used or my time had been wasted.
During that time of uncertainty I ended up throwing away some changes I had made to Goro's Lair, and ignoring some requests other users made about more changes to Throne Room.
Now that's the kind of exchange I'm trying to avoid here.
Passive aggressive resistance to suggestions for improvement.

Sorry, I just started a new job in real life. I'm under a great deal of pressure to perform. I love this project and try to check in on it everyday but that doesn't mean I have time to work on it everyday. I have 1.5 year old son who has been sick for what seems like 3 months straight now. Life happens outside of this community uKER. I wanted to make sure I gave your change requests the time they deserved. I *SAID* as much to you. You are being *waaaaaaay* too sensitive. Nothing passive aggressive about my response there.
Sorry if you felt I was ignoring you, I wasn't.

I don't see the relation between me making my critiques public and whatever you're being seen as.
Again, I only made my critiques in private because I wanted to avoid unneeded resistance.
As far as arq was fine with it I'd continue giving him feedback without having to put up with bashing for dragging down the project and whatnot.
That, and obviously Skype is a much more direct means for quick exchange than the forum.

What I mean is when our interactions are private, it only adds to the public opinion that I'm the ultimate decision maker here. I may be the most outspoken and I consider myself a leader but the community ultimately makes the decision. A perfect example of this was when everyone complained about how the life bar graphics could be improved. I was totally against it. Almost everyone here supported incorporating Justin Slaughter's design. End result? I capitulated and Interloko has those new life bars in the current build.

I'd rather you made your critiques public because you aren't always right, just like I'm not always right. What you view as resistance I view as publically stating your case for why something should or shouldn't be changed. A perfect for instance of this was your crit on Liu's pants animating not stiff enough. I disagreed with you because you were thinking the original clothing to be like what Bruce Lee wears in Enter the Dragon and I was thinking it was more of a silk light weight cloth such as the video example Arq provided. Ultimately I think Arq found a happy medium. Keep it all public and let the community decide otherwise why even post on this forum at all.

So you're saying that after I say "this still needs work" and you came immediately afterwards and overruled me saying "I think it's ready, let's move on" I was supposed to go in again and overrule you?
I'm not into that either.

Yeah and you could say, "well you know what I think it still needs *insert critique*". See how easy that is? Why on earth you would not say something but then harbor these angry feelings I don't know. Just say, I don't agree give me some time to look at it before calling it done. Also I genuinely did think it was done, just as you genuinely didn't. Problem here is only one of us spoke up. If that is what you are calling resistance then you'll find most of what you say to be frustrating and ineffective here. Everyone will be perceived as passive aggressive.

Well, that wasn't what you said here after MrMos3s had in fact said he was OK with me taking a shot at some of the endings.

Yes this is me listening to what you are saying. Taking into account the feelings of the people on this thread and then changing my mind. Am I allowed to do that? I'm not trying to paint the picture of you being a oversensitive child or whatever you'll twist this into.

Again, this isn't worth the energy. At this point I think I've personally been really accommodating. I've been nothing but honest with you about my reasons for WHY I've shown resistance to you working on the elements of this project that you wanted to work on.

You know the expression, "you have to have a thick skin to do that work?". That applies here. You need a thicker skin. Otherwise sooner or later you will end up feeling like an annoyance rather than an asset to this project. This steps outside the boundaries of this project a bit, but I hope you don't assign your worth to what other people think of you. I'm done convincing you. I hope you'll stay. Sounds like a bunch of people will be disappointed if you don't so that may or may not influence your decision.

Well, that's not exactly how things went down.
I was given access to dropbox in a time when MrMos3s was MIA, and arq was trying to get Liu Kang's statue done.
Being the only available option, I was allowed to have a hand there, and I also did some color/levels correction to Raiden's statue and I was given access so that I could make the changes myself.

Now, the changes to the Throne Room were an entirely different story. Another user, bbyoshi147 had offered to improve the changes and you pretty much blew him off saying that you found it insulting that someone offered to improve your work. See that here.

I guess that that's the type of thing that CARZ talked about when he mentioned the thing about putting one's ego before the project.
It's like being recognized as "the guy who single handedly did X thing" is more important than that thing being good in the final game, even if 10 people have to lend a hand into it.
And while I'm not calling any names here, you're not the only one that has given off that vibe.

Now, I still was concerned about the stages so as a proof of concept I made a bunch of changes to Throne Room and presented them to you, and as I mentioned before, there was some exchange for a while, until one day I sent you some stuff for you to check and like two months passed without you apparently having the time to double click a file and fire up Photoshop to check it out.

Time passed and without you approving them, up to that point I didn't even know whether my changes were going to be used or my time had been wasted.
During that time of uncertainty I ended up throwing away some changes I had made to Goro's Lair, and ignoring some requests other users made about more changes to Throne Room.
Now that's the kind of exchange I'm trying to avoid here.
Passive agressive resistance to suggestions for improvement.


Well, that wasn't what you said here after MrMos3s had in fact said he was OK with me taking a shot at some of the endings.


I don't see the relation between me making my critiques public and whatever you're being seen as.
Again, I only made my critiques in private because I wanted to avoid unneeded opposition.
As far as arq was fine with it I'd continue giving him feedback without having to put up with bashing for dragging down the project and whatnot.
That, and obviously Skype is a much more direct means for quick exchange than the forum.


So you're saying that after I say "this still needs work" and you came immediately afterwards and overruled me saying "I think it's ready, let's move on" I was supposed to go in again and overrule you?
I'm not into that either.


Well, you may have said I had the last word, but when the time came, it didn't always -feel- that way.


I do agree that that is not up to you.
No need to feel I'm throwing all the blame on your shoulders.
What's fair is fair.

Once again, I'll try to stick around, but I will only go as far as the point when the responses start feeling like "god, not this guy again".
If I'm not wanted, I don't want to do it either.

 

[londonhellgate]

carz: say the true is not complaining, mr. drama speciallist. Is a way too to show how far reaches the thread of mk the details......... are examples.........

 

[uKER]

I don't see the need to reply in a "stop trying to win this" tone.
I'm not trying to win anything.

Take it or leave it, that's the way I've been feeling.
I'll do my best to keep providing.
It is up to whoever reads it to see if they care, and whether there's anything they can do to make things work better.