Mortal Kombat 11 General Discussion Media Thread

"Nobody watches Batman for realism. They're watching it for escapism."

> TDK is widely considered a masterpiece and beloved by the vast majority of critics and fans alike

Just because you can't see any potential in the MK franchise to rise above the genre-schlock it used to be, doesn't mean there isn't any.

It has nothing to do with realism. It had a good writing. DC animated universe is having positive feedback, thought it goes full crazy. That's writing is good.

People like then the world has set rules. For Nolan's batman series rules were pretty simple, so people could relate more. But let's say Avatar. 3 bil. Realism? Hah. Yeah, sure.
No it was because the world felt alive. There was an established eco system, beautiful world to show, rules were clear, reasoning was clear, and the message was clear. Humans weren't made evil for the sake of being evil. They had their own motivations, and we were seeing everything from native's point of view. For them it was evil. For humans, it was just business.

Also to answer your previous post. MK last versions are anything but realism. The moment they introduced X Ray's any semblence of realism went POOF. Like a smoke.
 
I think that cosplayer also did MK9 Sonya and MK9 Jade. Ed retweets a lot of these chicks.

Agreed.
She also never said that her cosplay would be specifically MK11-related, just that it was an MK costume.
If I had a Kotal Kahn costume and said I'm wearing that tomorrow, it doesn't mean that he's automatically confirmed.
Could Skarlet be in? Sure, just like any character they decide on, but people sure do love running with random shit and calling it "confirmed."
 
Jesus... Women love showing off, it's not that hard to figure out. It's only nerds on video games that scream about "TOO MUCH!!! TOO MUCHHHH!!11".

So what, they should ignore that playerbase now, even if it's tiny? That's so sexist and misogynistic! :lol: Don't you see the hypocrisy?

I am just pointing out the "women like MK9 designs part" as it is a funny statement for me. It has too many flaws not to point it out :D

They can cosplay all they want. I don't care. If I don't like something myself I can always create my own version. Hence why I became an artist. Don't like it? Just draw my own stuff or mod the game.

I really don't like repeating myself. I am just digigng up anything to talk while looking at the clock. I am already pushing my time, by just drawing Mileena sketch right now.
 
I thought TDK is considered a masterpiece simply because it's a good movie. But you do you, friendo.

Lol, "simply because it's a good movie"? There's nothing simple about a movie being good. WHY is it a good movie? It's good because it allowed Batman to rise above the camp and cheese he was previously condemned to, and told a story worth telling, that explored issues that people want to see explored in fiction (crime, justice, vigilantism, love, loss, the cost of heroism), and did it well.

There's absolutely no reason why Mortal Kombat can't (or shouldn't) tell an amazing story by doing all of the above. And to do that it would probably have to be a little more realistic than Mileena parading around in a bandage thong.
 
I am just pointing out the "women like MK9 designs part" as it is a funny statement for me. It has too many flaws not to point it out :D

They can cosplay all they want. I don't care. If I don't like something myself I can always create my own version. Hence why I became an artist. Don't like it? Just draw my own stuff or mod the game.

I really don't like repeating myself. I am just digigng up anything to talk while looking at the clock. I am already pushing my time, by just drawing Mileena sketch right now.

There are obviously people who enjoy MK9, who happen to be female. Why are you arguing against this?...

See, the reverse can be applied here as well. You don't like what you see? Fine. Go mod your own version or draw it. Stop telling others what they can or cannot have. :)
 
Lol, "simply because it's a good movie"? There's nothing simple about a movie being good. WHY is it a good movie? It's good because it allowed Batman to rise above the camp and cheese he was previously condemned to, and told a story worth telling, that explored issues that people want to see explored in fiction (crime, justice, vigilantism, love, loss, the cost of heroism), and did it well.

There's absolutely no reason why Mortal Kombat can't (or shouldn't) tell an amazing story by doing all of the above. And to do that it would probably have to be a little more realistic than Mileena parading around in a bandage thong.

A good writer could make a damn good story even if everyone was naked.
 
Agreed.
She also never said that her cosplay would be specifically MK11-related, just that it was an MK costume.
If I had a Kotal Kahn costume and said I'm wearing that tomorrow, it doesn't mean that he's automatically confirmed.
Could Skarlet be in? Sure, just like any character they decide on, but people sure do love running with random shit and calling it "confirmed."

I know. People complain about leaks and their validity, but then go right ahead and jump on any retweet as if it's 100% concrete proof. It's 2k19 everyone.
 
There are obviously people who enjoy MK9, who happen to be female. Why are you arguing against this?...

See, the reverse can be applied here as well. You don't like what you see? Fine. Go mod your own version or draw it. Stop telling others what they can or cannot have. :)

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Dude... are you trying to start an argument just for the sake of having argument. I literally just said.

They can cosplay all they want. I don't care. If I don't like something myself I can always create my own version. Hence why I became an artist. Don't like it? Just draw my own stuff or mod the game.

So how is that me telling what others can have or cannot have?

And yes I know that there are females who enjoy MK9... which I also mentioned. Dude I think you just skimmed over my messages.
 
Always annoyed me how people would dismiss fans of guest characters as "not real mk fans".

If anything I would say they are not the real fans, especially if they feel entitled enough to boast this shit. Doesn't matter the reason, any time I hear some guy starting the sentence "Only the real fans..." makes me immediately ignore that person's opinion.
 
It has nothing to do with realism. It had a good writing.

Which is exactly why I said:

> There's nothing wrong with saying "MK should be more realistic than it is," as long as you're using the word realistic as short-hand for what that realism actually allows you to do with your franchise. Realism is a storytelling tool, a means to an end, not an end unto itself.

Answer me this simple question: if Mileena had worn her stripper outfit in MKX's story mode, would that have made the story mode better?

Like Avatar, MK is a world, and it needs to be a convincing one for us to remember it after we turn off the console. In this case, that means making Mileena's outfit more realistic. If you want to use another word instead of realistic, like "original" or "tonally appropriate" or "representative of her personality," you can, and all three of those would be closer to the truth. But if you've been reading my posts closely, I think I made it very clear what my position actually is.

Also to answer your previous post. MK last versions are anything but realism. The moment they introduced X Ray's any semblence of realism went POOF. Like a smoke.

OK so if I have 5 apples, then you give me 5 more apples, and take away 1 apple, do I have more apples or less apples than when I started?

How seriously MK takes itself doesn't come down to any one particular thing, it comes down to thousands of design decisions, from graphical improvements and visual style, to character concepts, to character designs, to animations, to voice acting, environment design, dialogue, plot, themes, presentation, blah blah blah. A million different things. The OVERWHELMING majority of which have become more cinematic and more "realistic" over the years. Pointing to a single gameplay mechanic as some sort of trump card in this argument is beyond silly.
 
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A good writer could make a damn good story even if everyone was naked.

But we're not talking about a writer making up a story completely out of his or her own imagination, we're talking about writers adapting EXISTING characters in an EXISTING world.

I have no doubt that William Shakespeare would have been able to write an amazing play where all of the characters are naked. What I doubt is that William Shakespeare would have been able to write an amazing stage adaptation of, say, Lord of the Rings... with all of the characters being naked for some reason that he has to not only justify, but use to his advantage.

And that's before we even get to the point that there's a chance the MK writers are not quite as talented as Mr. Shakespeare, so they should probably not be making their job of creating a compelling universe any harder than it already is.
 
But we're not talking about a writer making up a story completely out of his or her own imagination, we're talking about writers adapting EXISTING characters in an EXISTING world.

I have no doubt that William Shakespeare would have been able to write an amazing play where all of the characters are naked. What I doubt is that William Shakespeare would have been able to write an amazing stage adaptation of, say, Lord of the Rings... with all of the characters being naked for some reason that he has to not only justify, but use to his advantage.

And that's before we even get to the point that there's a chance the MK writers are not quite as talented as Mr. Shakespeare, so they should probably not be making their job of creating a compelling universe any harder than it already is.

So you answered your own question.

Lord of the Rings has its own set of rules. Down to clothing. So no matter how good the writer is, he can't justify making naked characters in a world, that has already a set rule. Elves wear this, Dwarves wear this, Humans have this traditional clothing, etc.

In MK case. A writer could make everyone wear a freaking underwear or swimming suits and make it work. Because the rules are not set. There is no realism in MK. There are no rules, then it comes to appearances. Appearance wise MK can be anything. Just because they have a military similar to that of our Earth doesn't mean it has to follow the same rules.

MK over years actually leaned more to sexy theme if anything. It is only MKX that decided to go all brooding and realistic. The original timeline and MK9 didn't go anywhere in that direction.

That's why I said. The moment they introduced X-ray's, it made any remaining elements of set rules or realism fly away. Them introducing X-ray meant one thing. "We can do whatever the hell we want."

If they decided now to make all Females wear sexed up costumes again in MK11 (we haven't even seen MK females after all) then, they would be just going back to their original theme.

My entire problem was, that you compared (or so it seemed) MK writing with Dark Knight Rises. It has completely different set of rules. Nolan decided to play along real life rules, and he did good. He made Batman actually believable. So movie was well received. MK on other hand. It has no rules. And now with Timelines, they got rid of any chains they had. They can do whatever they want. There is no realism in MK and it never went towards that direction.

And trying to introduce it, would just ruin MK lore.
 
This thread has gone ridiculously off topic again. SJW, comparing the Mk world to other FICTIONAL worlds. It's just silly

I get we are all passionate about Mk, but.. it's a bit much
 
This thread has gone ridiculously off topic again. SJW, comparing the Mk world to other FICTIONAL worlds. It's just silly

I get we are all passionate about Mk, but.. it's a bit much

Give a better topic to kill time? Dude I would happily post sketches of different timeline variations for MK characters (cause that's all I do right now), but it ain't a picture thread, so gotta talk about something.
 
Sub Zero cover for the people who didn't want Scorpion (made by u/sylgrio from reddit). I think it looks pretty cool.
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Ermac, Rain, Reptile and Noob versions by other people on reddit:
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So, which character looks better on the cover?
 
The Noob one looks pretty sick, man I can't wait for tommorrow, fears aside I really want to see what the game looks like in motion.
 
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