Mortal Kombat 11 General Discussion Media Thread

[Commander]

I get that people can get attached to a character, but I also am not selfish and I know that NRS doesn’t only cater to what only I want.
I could understand not getting certain DLC, because at the end of the day it’s just an added extra, but I never understood only getting an entire fighting game for just 1 character.
Not every character will be on every roster, especially when there are a limited number of slots.

 

[BBBLP]

Neither would I, but I’ve seen plenty of these people throwing a hissy fit online over 1 character, and it seems that those vocal ones are the ones that NRS is catering to.

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What a strange thought right? That NRS would cater to the largest part of it's fanbase?

You guys are really tripping thinking that people outside of forums want to see characters like Frost, Sareena or Reiko come back. Most of the people who will buy MK11, probably don't even know who they are, or if they do, they don't like them.

 

[BBBLP]

I get that people can get attached to a character, but I also am not selfish and I know that NRS doesn’t only cater to what only I want.
I could understand not getting certain DLC, because at the end of the day it’s just an added extra, but I never understood only getting an entire fighting game for just 1 character.
Not every character will be on every roster, especially when there are a limited number of slots.

But isn't that your classic catchphrase? To vote with your wallet? If Tekken doesn't have King in it, I'll let them know how I feel about it by not purchasing it.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

I'm always in the favored side, since my favorite character is one of the "must" and the others are among them. So I don't know if I'll ever have another chance like MK3 to say "my favorite character wasn't there". Still, MK3 I played with Kung Lao, Liu Kang and sometimes I used to try Shang Tsung. That's why I'm usually wanting those that get not much love. These people are cancer for the gaming industry tho*.

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In other news, I've been thinking how the early games abilities were focused on the boss. You see, MK1 had specials that were used to reduce range, because Shang Tsung had no fighting moves in his original form, so he was always dashing away. It's annoying when you fly kick and he dashes, so you lose the distance. But if you notice, all moves - freeze, spear, flying kick and thunder god, kanoball, shadow kick - are basically useful to a dashing boss.

When it went to MKII/UMK3, while some moves were repated, they improved, since Shao Kahn could be vulnerable on his feet specially - ground pound, low fireball, roll - and some from the air too. Also, his taunt opened a window to punishment.

In other words, the abilities of the common players are also made to shape the boss. Now, I am thinking: what should we expect from an unplayable boss in a game where meter bars are infinite, refilling, you have no breaker, you can mount a ridiculous amount of versions and she's called BOSS OF BOSSES?

I'm totally getting a SNK boss syndrome feeling.

 

[MKLegion]

I think some of the fun of playing a new MK/fighting games in general is discovering new mains and favorites as you start playing, like I went into MKX with Smoke and Kabal gone but I ended finding new favorites like Kung Jin (who I wasn't even interested in when I first saw him).

 

[BBBLP]

I think some of the fun of playing a new MK/fighting games in general is discovering new mains and favorites as you start playing, like I went into MKX with Smoke and Kabal gone but I ended finding new favorites like Kung Jin (who I wasn't even interested in when I first saw him).

I'm the same way. I loathed Tanya, but she ended up being one of the most fun characters in the game for me. But this only happened because I love Mortal Kombat as a series. I'm willing to try out any character, that's why I buy these stupid ass season passes without even knowing who's coming in them.

Not everyone loves Mortal Kombat though. Not everyone wants to be good with anyone, some people only want to be good with Mileena.

 

[Misucra]

What a strange thought right? That NRS would cater to the largest part of it's fanbase?

You guys are really tripping thinking that people outside of forums want to see characters like Frost, Sareena or Reiko come back. Most of the people who will buy MK11, probably don't even know who they are, or if they do, they don't like them.

And on what do you base that? Assumptions? Yeah, I can also say the same about Kabal. It is either Fujin, Mileena, Jade. No one gives a shit about Kabal. But I can only base that upon what I have seen, and it ain't much, as otherwise I would have to sit everyday going through every forum, twitter post to get the data.

The only difference, is that certain communities are more vocal than others. I can very easily prove to you, that there is a big enough community for Frost. (I can't speak for Sareena or Reiko).

Hold my b... Oh wait I don't drink alcohol. Hold my Cola. I'l be back in 2 weeks. If today is 4th, then I will be back on 18th. Unless Frost gets announced before that.

 

[Commander]

What a strange thought right? That NRS would cater to the largest part of it's fanbase?

Largest part? Doubt it.
Most vocal part? Most likely. :laugh:

But isn't that your classic catchphrase? To vote with your wallet? If Tekken doesn't have King in it, I'll let them know how I feel about it by not purchasing it.

I’ve never skipped an entire game over 1 character, and the only times I’ve “voted with my wallet” is for non-MK guests that I don’t give 2 shits for, like Jason, Alien, Predator, etc, etc, etc..... so, no, apples to oranges.
Thanks for trying to twist my words, though.

 

[BBBLP]

And on what do you base that? Assumptions? Yeah, I can also say the same about Kabal. It is either Fujin, Mileena, Jade. No one gives a shit about Kabal. But I can only base that upon what I have seen, and it ain't much, as otherwise I would have to sit everyday going through every forum, twitter post to get the data.

The only difference, is that certain communities are more vocal than others. I can very easily prove to you, that there is a big enough community for Frost. (I can't speak for Sareena or Reiko).

Hold my b... Oh wait I don't drink alcohol. Hold my Cola. I'l be back in 2 weeks. If today is 4th, then I will be back on 18th. Unless Frost gets announced before that.

I've said many times how I couldn't believe they added Kabal. I know how unpopular he is, hence my surprise he came back.

Largest part? Doubt it.
Most vocal part? Most likely. :laugh:

How can you doubt it though? MK1-2 are the pinnacle of Mortal Kombat. Those are the games/characters everybody loves, those are the games/characters everybody remembers. PS2 era is when most people marked the decline of Mortal Kombat.

I’ve never skipped an entire game over 1 character, and the only times I’ve “voted with my wallet” is for non-MK guests that I don’t give 2 shits for, like Jason, Alien, Predator, etc, etc, etc..... so, no, apples to oranges.
Thanks for trying to twist my words, though.

I didn't twist your words, you mentioned how you vote with your wallet. That's all I mentioned that you said. And I said that I would vote with my wallet by not buying a game filled with characters I don't care about. It's the same thing.

 

[Commander]

How can you doubt it though? MK1-2 are the pinnacle of Mortal Kombat. Those are the games/characters everybody loves, those are the games/characters everybody remembers. PS2 era is when most people marked the decline of Mortal Kombat.




I didn't twist your words, you mentioned how you vote with your wallet. That's all I mentioned that you said. And I said that I would vote with my wallet by not buying a game filled with characters I don't care about. It's the same thing.

What I doubt is that the majority consists of people who would skip a game if a few characters aren’t in, not that that wasn’t the era people like most.
Proof of that is with MKX being the top selling game of 2015 for about 4 months straight and even surpassing GTAV sales, despite characters like Baraka, Noob Saibot, Smoke, Sindel, Rain, Kabal and Jade, because at the end of the day the name Mortal Kombat sells itself.

You twist my words because I never mentioned being entitled and skipping a game because 1 character or 2 that I like aren’t in it.
As a matter of fact, I’ve stated dozens of times before how I mained Nightwolf and Rain IN MK9 and found 2 new mains in MKX.
It’s apples to oranges to not get an extra DLC character VS skipping out on an entire game because you feel like that developer revolves around you.
It’s that type of mentality of throwing a hissy fit because 1 character isn’t in that leads to the behavior of the Reiko douche.
Not wanting an extra DLC character means that you were still willing to give the rest of the main roster a shot and get the game.
Again, apples to oranges.

 

[BBBLP]

What I doubt is that the majority consists of people who would skip a game if a few characters aren’t in, not that that wasn’t the era people like most.
Proof of that is with MKX being the top selling game of 2015 for about 4 months straight and even surpassing GTAV sales, despite characters like Baraka, Noob Saibot, Smoke, Sindel, Rain, Kabal and Jade, because at the end of the day the name Mortal Kombat sells itself.

Then I misunderstood you. I wasn't talking about the ravenous fans being the majority. Just the people who really would prefer MK1-2 characters.
But who was in MKX tho? Liu Kang, Kitana, Kung Lao & Jax. Bonafied A-listers All characters who died in the last game.

You twist my words because I never mentioned being entitled and skipping a game because I character or 2 that I like aren’t in it.
As a matter of fact, I’ve stated dozens of times before how I mained Nightwolf and Rain IN MK9 and found 2 new mains in MKX.
It’s apples to oranges to not get an extra DLC character VS skipping out on an entire game because you feel like that developer reveolves around you.
It’s that type of mentality of throwing a hissy fit because 1 character isn’t in that leads to the behavior of the Reiko douche.
Not wanting an extra character means that you were still willing to give the rest of the main roster a shot and get the game.
Again, apples to oranges.

You are blowing that wayyyy out of proportion. First of all, I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about myself. I was only using your phrase. Second, it isn't entitled to skip out on a game because it doesn't have what you want. Why would a buy a product I disagree with? It has nothing to do with the developer revolving around me, they just made a decision that makes the game less appealing to me, so I wont spend my money on it. Classic business. No need to bring up that Reiko psychopath, that has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

BBBLP is right when it comes to the fact 3D era is considered the decline of MK, an unfortunate truth.

There are many reasons for this to not be true, - I personally think 3D era was awesome and the most rich in story, and I praise Vogel for some plots that were incredible - and I'm always greateful when I see someone asking for a Konquest mode, or "bring back Onaga!", and it was a huge victory that some 3D characters actually made to the modern games, and that counts some like Skarlet and Tremor.

On the other hand, I think these people are the most vocal, I'm not sure majority. While yes, many people know nothing about Frost, Reiko, didn't even know who was Tanya or Bo' Rai Cho, specially that kids are growing up and they are being raised in an era where MK/Injustice series is heavy on tournaments and specially MK is everytime breaking barriers that in the past existed.

We live in a reality where Chrome became a joke - I mean, he's a joke, but we cannot ignore the fact that his fanbase turned him into that. He could easily be a Tremor now -, so WB/NRS do give much credit to what they read on the internet, and most people on the social media - outside TRMK, MKO, MKSecrets, Subreddit, etc. - only want to play with THAT character and they are surely not interested on any other thing.

That's why I consider these people cancer. Not BBBLP that if King is out of Tekken he's like "hey, he has always been there, why should I invest money on something that turned its back on me for no reason?", but those who HERP DERP MLEENAN WITHOUT MK ISN'T MILEENA (intentional reversal).

So people like Ed - love him but he gives way too muc credit to social media - are like "wow! The world is asking for Mileena!". I put in the same group competition players who make "Kung Laos" return every damn game, and developers that despite letting their favorite characters take a turn, always find a way to shove them into our throats. I know, it's their game, but we can wish right.

 

[Commander]

Then I misunderstood you. I wasn't talking about the ravenous fans being the majority. Just the people who really would prefer MK1-2 characters.
But who was in MKX tho? Liu Kang, Kitana, Kung Lao & Jax. Bonafied A-listers All characters who died in the last game.



You are blowing that wayyyy out of proportion. First of all, I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about myself. I was only using your phrase. Second, it isn't entitled to skip out on a game because it doesn't have what you want. Why would a buy a product I disagree with? It has nothing to do with the developer revolving around me, they just made a decision that makes the game less appealing to me, so I wont spend my money on it. Classic business. No need to bring up that Reiko psychopath, that has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

Granted that those characters were in, but I’ve been seeing the same thing being said for characters that aren’t as big as those aforementioned characters.
MKX is proof that an MK game can sell well despite Baraka, Sindel, Rain, Noob, Smoke, Cyrax and Sektor being it.
Not all of the Trilogy characters need to be in to sell well, and that’s what I’m getting at, and the sub-reddit was FILLED with people saying that over B-listers like Kano. KANO!

I never meant to imply that you are entitled, and I’m sorry if I inadvertently implied that.
That said, lots of the people online like the ones that I pointed out DO come off as being entitled and it’s that toxic behavior (in general) that leads down that slippery slope.
These are people who DO say dumb shit like “Mileena in or we riot.”
Yeah, it’s the same type of toxic a-holes that feel like NRS owes them something, just for being a fan.

 

[KCJ506]

I'd be satisfied if we can get even just one post trilogy character that wasn't playable in MK9/MKX in the main roster. Preferably Fujin since he's been teased ever since MK9 and it would make sense to have him part of the main story with the whole Dark Raiden thing.

And then after that add 2 or 3 more as DLC. My choices being Havik, Sareena and either Reiko or Frost.

 

[Commander]

but those who HERP DERP MLEENAN WITHOUT MK ISN'T MILEENA (intentional reversal).

So people like Ed - love him but he gives way too muc credit to social media - are like "wow! The world is asking for Mileena!".

This is exactly what I was referring to.

 

[MKLegion]

Whether it be base roster or dlc, I do believe will get altleast 1-2 3D era reps, as the previous two games despite roster complaints did in fact add a few revamped 3D era characters to the roster (I also view those that have been added as ones NRS wants to keep around for the future even if it isn't MK11).

 

[BBBLP]

Random thought, but I think we were supposed to get a Kano reveal last Wednesday. It would explain why his "reveal" at the Brazil event was so underwhelming. Because he was supposed to have already been established the day prior, and then brazil's event was just to show his exclusive costume.

So we could possibly be getting 3+ character trailers this Tuesday. One for Kabal, one for Kano and then whoever they show for the Xbox thing

 

[The Green Bastard]

BBBLP is right when it comes to the fact 3D era is considered the decline of MK, an unfortunate truth.

There are many reasons for this to not be true, - I personally think 3D era was awesome and the most rich in story, and I praise Vogel for some plots that were incredible - and I'm always greateful when I see someone asking for a Konquest mode, or "bring back Onaga!", and it was a huge victory that some 3D characters actually made to the modern games, and that counts some like Skarlet and Tremor.

I never adjusted to the 3D stages, but I 100% agree. Deception especially is still one of my favorite MK games. The tone, the game modes and the Konquest mode were all great! In my opinion it also introduced characters with the most potential to be revamped.
Havik would be sick with the new gameplay mechanics.
Hotaru, Ashrah, Dairou and Darrius I feel were good ideas on paper, but could use a fresh moveset.

 

[JinCA]

I don't think 3D works for a projectile heavy fighting game like MK. I do think some of the characters and the story telling were good but those were the worst games of the series IMO.

 

[BBBLP]

I'm gonna call it now, if NRS ever does that horror themed fighting game, they're gonna make it a 3d fighter.