Mortal Kombat 1 General Discussion Media Thread

IDK but it wouldn't surprise me if NRS are just rushing a poorly balanced buggy game out the door just to meet some impossible release date that WB's CEO set. WBs are in desperation mode still. We all know the drill by now.

1. Rush it out to make mad bank yo!
2. Pretend to care about the negative backlash
3. Half ass patch it while advertising DLC for later
4. Abruptly end all future support for the game and go radio silent for another year.
5. Wait for things to cool down
6. Tease another game.
7. Rinse and repeat.
 
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Well... it is pretty much Injustice after all. They just added gore to it. Just like MK11.
I doubt anyone here has played the MK1 beta but all the YouTubers who aren't licking NRS's boots like the mainman who's obviously from the Tekken scene seem to compare it more to MK11 than Injustice. IMO Injustice 2 and MK11 are polar opposites of each other. He goes into his opinion about the game at 18 mins in.
 
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IDK but it wouldn't surprise me if NRS are just rushing a poorly balanced buggy game out the door just to meet some impossible release date that WB's CEO set. WBs are in desperation mode still. We all know the drill by now.

1. Rush it out to make mad bank yo!
2. Pretend to care about the negative backlash
3. Half ass patch it while advertising DLC for later
4. Abruptly end all future support for the game and go radio silent for another year.
5. Wait for things to cool down
6. Tease another game.
7. Rinse and repeat.

Awww, sounds like Midway in the 1990s when they rushed Mortal Kombat II and Mortal Kombat 3 to compete with Capcom and SNK and such.
 
Awww, sounds like Midway in the 1990s when they rushed Mortal Kombat II and Mortal Kombat 3 to compete with Capcom and SNK and such.
Apples to oranges comparison. It was very common for Arcade fighters to go through several revisions back than before there was a console release. I'm not saying it was a better way of doing things it was just different. That and the fact there was no Internet so less people could bitch about it lol.
 
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I doubt anyone here has played the MK1 beta but all the YouTubers who aren't licking NRS's boots like the mainman who's obviously from the Tekken scene seem to compare it more to MK11 than Injustice. IMO Injustice 2 and MK11 are polar opposites of each other. He goes into his opinion about the game at 18 mins in.
So basically, this is back to square one. AGAIN.

They are reinventing the wheel. AGAIN.

People will have to deal with broken shit. AGAIN.

And after few minor fixes, that won't address hidden problems, that only will come out after extensive playthrough, NRS will stop balancing the game. AGAIN

They had perfect system in 3D Era. Something that made them stand on their own. Kept the system consistent for 3 goddamn games. And then instead of improving on it. Committing to it. They just... nope. Let's remake gameplay with each iteration. Cause why not? Why we should refine and perfect one system, if we can produce a thousand of flawed ones? Genius idea.

I can guarantee you, that once Beta rolls in and more characters get introduced, there will be a fuck ton of new problems discovered. And they won't be solved by the time game launches. And once it launches, you can forget major updates, aside DLC.
 
Betas are older builds of the game so there's no way to know how bad things are until the final game releases. Everyone with a working brain cell knows MK1 will be a broken pile of unbalanced shit at launch. It basically boils down to how fast NRS addresses these issues and if MK11 is anything to go by......oh boy. Let's hope that's not the case.
 
Well, to be fair, back then in the 1990s Midway did decide to push updated to arcades by T-1 lines but then it was too expensive so that never got traction. Regarding Mortal Kombat 1's storyline: based on the intro videos, this timeline has Shao "the one and only true kahn" be the biological father of Kitana and Mileena and Kitana and Mileena are biological sisters and not clones? And Shao Kahn didn't consume Outworld like in the OG timeline that John Tobias was talking about. Also, does this mean that not just 2 timelines are clashing but more than 2 timelines? Sounds like flashpoint in The Flash or Crisis on Infinite Earths or something.
 
You might as well ask them to remove ads from the main menu.

Not gonna happen. Them being in the tower = advertisement. If people had an option to turn them off, it would go against their aggressive marketing policy.
Wouldn't that have more to do with the being "always online" bullshit?

MKX wasn't always online and that was the exact scenario for that game.
They had trial Towers to try out the DLC characters, but the characters that you didn't purchase wouldn't show up in your game at all, yet you could still fight online against someone who did purchase them. Win-win and the best case scenario for both parties, imo.
I know this for a fact because I've never fought a Bo Rai Cho, Triborg, Jason, Leatherface, Alien or Predator in any of the SP Towers in MKX.

It wasn't until MK11 when they started with that always online horseshit, where if you didn't connect to the internet then the fucking game wouldn't recognize DLC characters, unlocked costumes or shitty default variations that you replaced with Tournament versions.
If you didn't connect once the game would be like "fuck you, here's vanilla MK11."
 
Wouldn't that have more to do with the being "always online" bullshit?

MKX wasn't always online and that was the exact scenario for that game.
They had trial Towers to try out the DLC characters, but the characters that you didn't purchase wouldn't show up in your game at all, yet you could still fight online against someone who did purchase them. Win-win and the best case scenario for both parties, imo.
I know this for a fact because I've never fought a Bo Rai Cho, Triborg, Jason, Leatherface, Alien or Predator in any of the SP Towers in MKX.

It wasn't until MK11 when they started with that always online horseshit, where if you didn't connect to the internet then the fucking game wouldn't recognize DLC characters, unlocked costumes or shitty default variations that you replaced with Tournament versions.
If you didn't connect once the game would be like "fuck you, here's vanilla MK11."
Aye. It started with MK11 (I think, not sure if Injustice 2 has that too). But that's the thing. Companies are pushing for online only and I can bet anything, that MK1 will be even more "online only service".

Again. Even if it is online only, they could just make an option for people not to see guest characters. But they also could make it so that you can turn off ads in the main menu.
But will they do that? Fuck no. WB DESPERATELY needs money right now. Especially after they big great movie "The Flash" bombed so hard, you could hear the drop from the motherfucking Andromeda galaxy.
And that will cause them to double down on monetization. So ads, ads and more ads everywhere. Buy DLC, buy guest characters, buy dragon crystals and buy new editions. They will make all of the stupid decisions. How do I know that? Suicide Squad monetization, Amber Heard, and now they keep a known criminal for their "Flash" Ezra Miller. Who is one of the main reasons, why the movie bombed. I thought Zaslav might do things differently, but in the end, he is just another Executive.
He understood that he had to cut down the costs and remove unneeded fat, but he has no idea, what people want, how to make money or use anything in his company. MK1 is happening, because most likely WB looked at MK and Injustice sales and said "Nah nah. We need the money maker right now." And Injustice 3, became MK1.

I imagine Kameo system, was supposed to be for Injustice 3. Super heroes would have a "sidekick" and villains, would have partner in crime. Etc.
Cause it doesn't fit MK world at all. Be it lore wise, nor gameplay wise. MK was always 1 vs 1. Now it just looks weird.
 
All I can say is this is the worst reactions I have ever seen for a series drop. I've been pissed off since mkx announced leatherface Smh. That game could have been perfect with the right roster and less guest characters. Im glad to see im not the only one who feels the way you all feel. My wallet remains firmly closed for this bullshit. By the sound of it the price will drop fast after release. I will wait for the final product to decide if i will get it. In the meantime street fighter 6 is a great fighter. That gauge drive has great options. Mk1 feels so bare bones in comparison. It seems the only influence ytbers have are on the MK9 and forward generation. The life long fans can at least think for themselves. They even got Cyborg from the netherkast to stan out for this new game. Everybody on yt is compromised for the most part. The pre order bullshit is so messed up. They toom advantage of loyal fans on that one. I own every single mk game. But this is the end of the line. I say let mk die off. Its better off than being whored out to guest IPs over fan favorites and catered only to the fgc and youtubers..
You might get your wish. WB has been making crappy decisions constantly and if rumors about rushed development of MK1 are at least half true, people are about to get an over monetized slot machine.

Unlike in the past, MK has a serious competition this year. Instead of SF having to match MK, now it is MK that has to match SF standard.
People don't seen to understand that better graphics, come at the cost of content. Especially if the game is done within a small time frame. MK interface is already showing that they put most of the time in gameplay/models, rather than overall design and feel of the game. On one hand, great. Fighting game is about fighting. But then don't put 70 dollar price tag on that. Cause so far the game looks like something you could easily sell for 40-50.

And people are already having trouble with some gameplay aspects. So even the only thing you're selling, isn't living up to its potential. SF6 had the gameplay down since early BETAS. Very few adjustments were needed, and now the game feels silky smooth. It is fun to play and fun to watch.
So MK is in bad spot right now. They are definitely gonna go for ESPORTS this year as well, but judging by their crappy understanding of how to balance the game, I can safely assume, they won't be making big in Competitive scene again.
SF6 is looking like it might retake its previous title from SF4 days, as the darling of EVO. And then we also have Tekken 8 coming in, apparently bringing big guns in its own way. So Competitive scene is definitely blocked for MK.

Then what remains? Casual audience. Most of the people won't be staying long, if this is all MK has to offer. So NRS has to show something worth their time. Something to make them stay. So Krypt is out. And Konquest is not happening. Apparently there will be a mix of Konquest and Krypt. Which will be "bigger and better"... but then... why we haven't seen anything like that? Why is it only fighting part? Sure you're attracting fighting game enthusiasts, but a more casual audience doesn't really look forward to going to sweat works of MK1.

And there is less, than 3 months remaining until MK1 launch. Yet... nothing? Really?
And there was mention of no customization. So... Dragon Krystals are for what? What is this bigger and better mode, than Krypt and Konquest combined? Where is it? Why everything is so silent? Where is the hype building? Where are the Kombat Kasts? Where are the mini games, for people to guess, what is coming? Why all of this build up for gameplay trailer, only to show just few characters and one mode?

I believe that in reality, the game is not even finished...
 
Yeah I don't think MK is dying any time soon. Just look at the entire PC situation....

- They confirmed no beta or stress test
- Crossplay is out the question
- Horrible track record for stability, performance and delayed patches
- Some even say it looked better on consoles
- BAREBONES store page. It's just few sentences, and a bunch of CGI screenshots. Worst thing is they can't even be bothered to update it even now.
- Costs the same as consoles

...And guess what? People still pre-order it, they just love getting fucked in the ass with no lube. There is no incentive for NRS to change their ways. I'm starting to think if Ed would come on video and say "you losers need to buy my half-baked game and be happy with it", they would still get pre-orders.
 
Yeah I don't think MK is dying any time soon. Just look at the entire PC situation....

- They confirmed no beta or stress test
- Crossplay is out the question
- Horrible track record for stability, performance and delayed patches
- Some even say it looked better on consoles
- BAREBONES store page. It's just few sentences, and a bunch of CGI screenshots. Worst thing is they can't even be bothered to update it even now.
- Costs the same as consoles

...And guess what? People still pre-order it, they just love getting fucked in the ass with no lube. There is no incentive for NRS to change their ways. I'm starting to think if Ed would come on video and say "you losers need to buy my half-baked game and be happy with it", they would still get pre-orders.

Yeah, but you have to take into account, that things don't change that quickly. Change is always gradual. SF6 launch started slow, but the game has been constantly growing now, as both casuals and pros find what they like. So MK1 has to match the fun aspect of SF6.

MK11 wasn't seen as anything ground breaking, but it was the only game that was hot at the time. Tekken 7 was all sweaty pro and competitive players. SF5 on other hand had "meh" reputation, due bare bones launch and even if it was improved and fixed by the end of its life time, it wasn't just good enough to compete with MK11. So MK11 had no real competition and was the most friendly for casual audience.

Now it is the opposite. So if MK1 now comes out with some glorified loot box simulator for a game mode and over monetized system. That's it. People will just compare the two games and realize, that MK1 ain't worth the money.

Casual audience goes for the shiniest product in the end. They don't have brand loyalty. And people are comparing the two games anyway. So MK1 is under a lot of pressure and people who are preordering, ASSUME that the game will have some BOMBASTIC content, that is simply hidden right now. It only takes one bad launch, to dispel the illusion.
 
My biggest gripe/concern is with the way they handled the stress test beta. It's painfully obvious it was more of a marketing PR gimmick than anything. Let everyone check the game out not just a few privileged ''influencers''. I don't wanna hear ''it's just a stress test bruh not everyone gets to play it.'' nonsense ether. This Isn't NRS first rodeo when it comes to online servers. At this point all those kinks should have been ironed out months ago. That is if the game is on track to release this September.
 
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My biggest gripe/concern is with the way they handled the stress test beta. It's painfully obvious it was more of a marketing PR gimmick than anything. Let everyone check the game out not just a few privileged ''influencers''. I don't wanna hear ''it's just a stress test bruh not everyone gets to play it.'' nonsense ether. This Isn't NRS first rodeo when it comes to online servers. At this point all those kinks should have been ironed out months ago. That is if the game is on track to release this September.
Really makes you think what they spent those 4 years on..... The 2D images for the Tower?.....

You'd think they have come up with a clear plan with no blunders.... Considering it's MK12, T W E L V E, and yet they keep getting away with the same krap.... As for the StReSs TeSt, the point of it is to allow as many people in..... So they do the opposite of that, by limiting it to a certain amount of people, and excluding PC completely. This is coupled with the fact that MK11, while it's on its last legs, is constantly having server issues.

By the way, game is out in 2 months. Just what the fuck? :ROFLMAO:
 
Really makes you think what they spent those 4 years on..... The 2D images for the Tower?.....

You'd think they have come up with a clear plan with no blunders.... Considering it's MK12, T W E L V E, and yet they keep getting away with the same krap.... As for the StReSs TeSt, the point of it is to allow as many people in..... So they do the opposite of that, by limiting it to a certain amount of people, and excluding PC completely. This is coupled with the fact that MK11, while it's on its last legs, is constantly having server issues.

By the way, game is out in 2 months. Just what the fuck? :ROFLMAO:
They only have two options, delay it or do a sensory overload of content weeks before release. Knowing WB and how they want that sweet holiday money. I'm going with option 2. I'm willing to bet that NRS wants to delay it but daddy WB Isn't having it. It will really shock me if that turns out not to be the case.
 
I really do wonder why they have a community manager sometimes if they've been so fucking terrible with their marketing, in general.
Holy shit!
12 weeks from release and still only have 4 goddamn playable characters and 3 kameos that we've seen in depth.
Aside from that there are still 14 damn slots which we know nothing about, 8 kameo slots which we know nothing about, no info on any fucking game modes, no info on story and then no info of the fucking stages aside from 2 of them. :cautious:
At this rate we'll know the rest of the goddamn roster once the game comes out. Lol
 
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