Let's discuss possible SubZero storylines

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Araknyd_Commander said:
Bi-Han and Kuai-Liang aren't the only descendants.
The 2 brothers also had a sister, according to MK lore.
So, I'm thinking that this is probably the nephew of 1 of the 2 Sub-Zeros, or a pupil of 1 of the former brothers (the less likely scenario, since Cryomancy is passed down genetically).
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I think i could buy that!
Now i wonder if i have to learn to love another Sub Zero all over...HMMMMMM!!!
I became a Sub Zero fan in MK II and on, didn't really care for Bi-Han in MK I, I liked him when his Noob Saibot story came about. Kuai Liang is SZ to, the Grandmaster.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
Not quite so.
When MK8 was originally being done (the original Mk reboot game that was supposed to happen instead of MKvsDC), the concept art of that MK1 Sub-Zero looked VERY much like MK X Sub-Zero.
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no it really doesnt that one has sleeves a hood he wears much different hands feet and belt the only thing that looks like him is the vest thing.
 
BBBLP said:
Bi Han wears his own gear in Quan Chi's vision. How could he be wearing Kuai Liang's clothes when Kuai Liang didn't become Sub-Zero until he died?
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your right Kuai didnt become Sub - Zero until Bi - Han died Kuai was tundra that doesnt mean he didnt wear those clothes.
 
Yesterday I watched that PAX gameplay.

Dude. Sub-Zero said "you will rejoin your clan" to Scorpion.

This same dude was talking about "innocene" on their first cutscene. That's totally strange.

Also, seems like he said "Noob Saibot" to Ferra on another fight (not konfirmed, people insist talking on this cutscenes).

Now...remember MK:A Noob Saibot's ending?

I really doubt a popular character like this will be discarded in a Soulnado. Based on that ending, what if they have separated Bi-Han from Noob Saibot? He is talking like Bi-Han too much.

If this guy is a cousin, I'm really interested on the story, because Scorpion keeps calling any Sub-Zero "murderer" and all of them don't know how to talk, because in a few words they can say exactly who they are and what happened.

The thing is, what if this is Bi-Han all over again and we may see a "pure" Noob Saibot?
 
I also think this Sub-Zero is Bi-Han. It just seems like the best way to do it.
And i like the idea of a "pure" Noob Saibot.
Although, Bi-Han IS Noob Saibot, so im having a tough time understanding how it would work.

Would this "pure" Noob Saibot have any of Bi-Han's memories?
Would he still look like Bi-Han?
It'd be interesting to see it all play out.
 
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Well, he is tired of trying to prove his innocence. At the same time, he says that Scorpion will rejoin his clan.

It fits Bi-Han. Probally he is tired of keep saying "I didn't kill your family" (like he said it more than...two times), but of course he admits killing Scorpion.

Noob Saibot has always dealt with duality, even when we didn't notice. But was in MK:A that they started the thing as if his mind was in fact a dispute for a soul.

In MK9, it's visible that his shadow is not only a projection, but works as a partner, even being one.

If somehow he was purified by Heaven in the Soulnado and "Sub-Zero (Bi-Han)" was separated from "Noob Saibot (Bi-Han)", I think it would answers this cut dialogues.

I prefer he will be back instead of a third Sub-Zero. I want them to team up, but I always liked the idea of Scorpion teaming up with Kuai Liang, both are victims and Liang did nothing to Hanzo, if it was Bi-Han, Scorpion would have to overcome that kill (which he should, since he has already killed Bi-Han...) and turn his eyes to the true enemy.
 
hmmm, i thought i replied to this a while ago.
Anyway...

Yellow Ledbetter said:
In MK9, it's visible that his shadow is not only a projection, but works as a partner, even being one.
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That's a good point.
I'm guessing if they got separated, he would become the shadow itself.
If that happened, id have to see him with some crazy new abilities.
They would really have to make up for there being no "shadow" fighting with you.

Maybe some "Venom" (spider-man) inspired moves.
Noob always gave me sort of a Venom vibe in MK9...
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in the MK:DA in scorpion's ending it says any corrupt soul thrown into the soulnado will be ripped apart. so w/ that i think bi - han's dead and this is a new sub - zero or kuai - liang
 
in the MK:DA in scorpion's ending it says any corrupt soul thrown into the soulnado will be ripped apart. so with that i think bi - han's dead and this is a new sub - zero or kuai - liang
 
Rolling_Toaster said:
in the MK:DA in scorpion's ending it says any corrupt soul thrown into the soulnado will be ripped apart. so w/ that i think bi - han's dead and this is a new sub - zero or kuai - liang
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It didn't say any. It said Scorpion, and he is a normal dead person, but as he was a remarkable warrior in life and powered by Netherrealm energy, he became a wraith like he is.

Noob is pretty different. Many has concluded he was possessed, not revived (MK:SM also does this quotation). After MK4, he was always treated with duality, even if that duality was a tag team with Smoke.

But MK:A says much. His soul seems to be divided by Noob Saibot and Sub-Zero, even it's not canon, who knows what happens inside his existence.

Also, this MK9 shadow is so intriguing, he kinda controls it, but it has too much independence. Even his fatality is "As One". It's too much duality, he seems not to be a normal wraith.

Scorpion escaped dissipation on the Soulnado by the void. Maybe Noob did the same, and they found him a better purpose, without taking away the character, I mean, everybody loves Sub-Zero and everybody loves Noob Saibot.


Kickinwing420 said:
hmmm, i thought i replied to this a while ago.
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That's a good point.
I'm guessing if they got separated, he would become the shadow itself.
If that happened, id have to see him with some crazy new abilities.
They would really have to make up for there being no "shadow" fighting with you.

Maybe some "Venom" (spider-man) inspired moves.
Noob always gave me sort of a Venom vibe in MK9...
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He is not consistent, remembering Venom was good. MK9 gave him different essences, he seems to be shadow like, at the same time, his shadow is some kind of "paint" (not exactly, of course).

If they are separated...Sub-Zero is no innocent, we will have back the Classic Sub-Zero and all his ability (though his brother became a far better legendary warrior, and his virtues are way more interesting on helping "good") and a PURE Noob Saibot (or maybe "Noob" or "Saibot" lol) and this would probally make him worse than he was. And he was capable of killing Kuai Liang in cold blood...
 
Even though this is what happens to a hellspawn body in contact with Heaven, the ending is non canon, not because it wouldn't happen, but because Scorpion escaped. Noob could have escaped the same way:

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Rolling_Toaster said:
but the soulnado exploded so still he's dead also you saw him fly up the soulnado he didn't escape that or else we would have seen him escap or his body fly out of the soulnado.
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Well, we can consider that Soulnado wasn't complete, MK:DA Soulnado was absurdely bigger and was already consistent.

Logically Noob should be dead, I know...

but who knows? Taven was also supposed to beat Blaze...
 
Rolling_Toaster said:
but the soulnado exploded so still he's dead also you saw him fly up the soulnado he didn't escape that or else we would have seen him escap or his body fly out of the soulnado.
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Why wasn't he in the NetherRealm, then, with the other dead warriors?

How do you know that the Soulnado didn't transport him or that he wasn't saved by the Elder Gods in the process, and that the Soulnado didn't explode after he was transported or saved?

How do you know that we won't see Noob being saved by the Elder Gods in MKX and them making him their Champion, and continuing from where it left off in MK9?
 
Why would Noob show up with the other dead warriors?
The only reason Quan Chi presented the zombies to Raiden was to show him that he had control over his allies.

Raiden already knew Noob Saibot was allied with Quan Chi.
 
BBBLP said:
Why would Noob show up with the other dead warriors?
The only reason Quan Chi presented the zombies to Raiden was to show him that he had control over his allies.

Raiden already knew Noob Saibot was allied with Quan Chi.
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And you don't think that Quan Chi would want control over Noob Saibot, given that he's his biggest threat to taking over the NetherRealm?
He's likely alive.

And what does that have to do with the possibility of Bi-Han being saved in the Soulnado and being made the Elder Gods' Champion, because they now see Quan Chi and Shinnok as a threat to their existence???



Rolling_Toaster said:
why wern't all the souls of the ppl in the soulnado in the NetherRealm, then, w/ the other dead warriors?
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Because they weren't JUST souls of the warriors who fought in the MK tournament, it was comprised of people who weren't warriors too.

All of the dead warriors were Quan Chi's payment from Shao Kahn, for his allegiance.
 
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