Is Ed Boon sure he's doing the right thing?

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Tarkatan Trash said:
Hating ninjas = hating MK.

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For you was love mk at umk3 with the kindom of generic ninjas? honestly your point do not sound smart to me.
The good side of ninjas is that at least ed boon wanted make them to antigeneric characters since mkda gradually.
But in mk9, no comment !!! specially about rain and cyber subzero. Worse even is the case of mk9 vita version that nrs added the cyber version for several characters.
But rain at mk9 is a steal, happened the same with Tremor in vita version, they took the model of noob saibot and transformed this in rain, specially when rain use liquid animations, they added moves from subzero,,,, in others words, it is other generic shit copy.

Mk is the one of few franchise that is abusing with ninjas, and is not good this, if boon shall be adding more ninjas, must make it with balance, and not by the ed boon fanboy likes.

Do you know that i hate? that scorpion and quanchi are going to have the major protagonims and it´s ruining the saga, suddenly.

You want add more ninjas but fact is that ed boon is not allowing add an evolution to them, specially the case of scorpion, always si the stupid ninja craying "revenge revenge revenge", honestly it´s shit.
Specially if this is chronic.
I see alot stupid forums praising to scorpion quoting his stupid sentence at forum ´s headers: "the vengance will be mine"........................... and this tire

So is not good idea focus the protagonist in certain of kind characters, in this case like ninjas

and if you have any doubt why should not have a focusied protagonist in mk, you can see to other game franchises include non fighthing games like silent hill.

at silent hill just the protagonist are the actors? no is the town.
Jhon tobias wanted add this sytem to MK, here is the protagonist is the legal and ilegal tournaments(mk1-mk2).

Then ed boon should to does the same with the invasion (mk3), genocide (mk4) alliance blow (mkda), the conspiration(mkd) and the apocalepse (mk ar) But since mk3, gradually ed boon wanted focus the things to quanchi and scorpion. Finally mk9 is the explosion of this, cause suddenly here is no control and you can see that boon has abused with scorpion and quanchi, ahhhhh and do not forget to subzero that is the idiot here. Anyway in mk deception they tryed give protagonism to Shujinko but for any reason this has failed

Incluse in SF franchise everyone assume that ryu is the icon, but in game him have not the major protagonism

So stop of ninjas and stop of the chronic focusing protagonism on few chars.

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pd: you can see to samurai showdown franchise, and this reveal that whole series, the protagonism is ramdomly per game, and just this is that mk need to do. But is more important to get that the protagonism is mk as his meaning.
 
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mcgriffin said:
Or what? We'll die? Please, no more rainbow ninjas. Need implies necessity, and there is none. The 'tradition of new ninjas' was just a conceit for low memory on old hardware. Think about it, the less characters look like ninjas, the less you need to correct anybody on who actually IS or ISN'T really a ninja. It's your opinion, man. If you want the power rangers to be in every Mortal Kombat, there's LOADS of existing games that will do that for you. But no, we don't all NEED half the cast to look like a menacing bag of skittles with their mouths covered. I'm an old school MK fan too, but that is not on my wish list.
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Your post is Rock ´fn Roll man, 100% agreed
 
londonhellgate said:
But in mk9, no comment !!! specially about rain and cyber subzero. Worse even is the case of mk9 vita version that nrs added the cyber version for several characters.
But rain at mk9 is a steal, happened the same with Tremor in vita version, they took the model of noob saibot and transformed this in rain, specially when rain use liquid animations, they added moves from subzero,,,, in others words, it is other generic shit copy.
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Wait... WHAT? Rain's moves have LITERALLY NOTHING to do with Sub-Zero's. Not even the animations, let alone the gameplay. There's absolutely no point in common between Rain and Sub-Zero's specials. What moves are you even talking about??? And Rain's design has nothing to do with Noob Saibot's... I seriously don't understand what you mean, care to explain?
 
londonhellgate said:
For you was love mk at umk3 with the kindom of generic ninjas? honestly your point do not sound smart to me.
The good side of ninjas is that at least ed boon wanted make them to antigeneric characters since mkda gradually.
But in mk9, no comment !!! specially about rain and cyber subzero. Worse even is the case of mk9 vita version that nrs added the cyber version for several characters.
But rain at mk9 is a steal, happened the same with Tremor in vita version, they took the model of noob saibot and transformed this in rain, specially when rain use liquid animations, they added moves from subzero,,,, in others words, it is other generic shit copy.

Mk is the one of few franchise that is abusing with ninjas, and is not good this, if boon shall be adding more ninjas, must make it with balance, and not by the ed boon fanboy likes.

Do you know that i hate? that scorpion and quanchi are going to have the major protagonims and it´s ruining the saga, suddenly.

You want add more ninjas but fact is that ed boon is not allowing add an evolution to them, specially the case of scorpion, always si the stupid ninja craying "revenge revenge revenge", honestly it´s shit.
Specially if this is chronic.
I see alot stupid forums praising to scorpion quoting his stupid sentence at forum ´s headers: "the vengance will be mine"........................... and this tire

So is not good idea focus the protagonist in certain of kind characters, in this case like ninjas

and if you have any doubt why should not have a focusied protagonist in mk, you can see to other game franchises include non fighthing games like silent hill.

at silent hill just the protagonist are the actors? no is the town.
Jhon tobias wanted add this sytem to MK, here is the protagonist is the legal and ilegal tournaments(mk1-mk2).

Then ed boon should to does the same with the invasion (mk3), genocide (mk4) alliance blow (mkda), the conspiration(mkd) and the apocalepse (mk ar) But since mk3, gradually ed boon wanted focus the things to quanchi and scorpion. Finally mk9 is the explosion of this, cause suddenly here is no control and you can see that boon has abused with scorpion and quanchi, ahhhhh and do not forget to subzero that is the idiot here. Anyway in mk deception they tryed give protagonism to Shujinko but for any reason this has failed

Incluse in SF franchise everyone assume that ryu is the icon, but in game him have not the major protagonism

So stop of ninjas and stop of the chronic focusing protagonism on few chars.

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pd: you can see to samurai showdown franchise, and this reveal that whole series, the protagonism is ramdomly per game, and just this is that mk need to do. But is more important to get that the protagonism is mk as his meaning.
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Agreed. I want to see the spotlight spread around.
 
Marcelino Rodrigues said:
Wait... WHAT? Rain's moves have LITERALLY NOTHING to do with Sub-Zero's. Not even the animations, let alone the gameplay. There's absolutely no point in common between Rain and Sub-Zero's specials. What moves are you even talking about??? And Rain's design has nothing to do with Noob Saibot's... I seriously don't understand what you mean, care to explain?
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He was referring to a different version of the game. The vita version, I believe, that had the bad pallete swap characters in the tower.
 
Killer Ryno said:
My ideal roster would be about 50% old characters, and 50% new characters.

Also I dont know why everyone is freaking out saying all the old characters are gonna be super old and thus not playable. This game covers the span of 25 years, while yes cassie cage is at the latter end of the timeline and Johnny and Sonya at that time would probably be too old, that doesnt mean that there wouldnt be young playable versions who are present in the beginning of the storyline.
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Same here.
A 50/50 split would be awesome, but even if it's 14 MK X, 8 MK9 and 8 post-MK3, I'm still down with that.
Where the hell would Quan Chi be today, it we didn't give him a chance in MK4???


THIS.
Thank you.
Since when the hell does a 25 year span on a mortal character = not playable?
Wasn't Shujinko like 80 or 90 in Deception?
As far as immortals go, Kitana is like 10,000 years old too.
I have no problem with a 50 year old Sonya or Johnny showing up as playable, or even a young version, since it SPANS 25 years.
I also don't see what the hell story mode death has to do with anything.
More than 50% of the cast died in MK9, and they were still playable, right?
 
Tarkatan Trash said:
Hating ninjas = hating MK.
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Good thing nobody here hates ninjas then. Except Sub-Zero. I read somewhere that to the Lin Kuei, 'ninja' is a slur.


londonhellgate said:
Your post is Rock ´fn Roll man, 100% agreed
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Don't be too quick to praise me. I find half your posts just as disagreeable as Tarkatan Trash there. Sometimes more so. Both of you have a habit of using lots of aggressive, insulting language and hyperbole to make your points. The kind of language meant to intentionally undermine the people you disagree with, not their ideas. Also...

londonhellgate said:
stop? kotal is not ogre? let me see this stupid aztec god is here cause the mexican ex nrs member called "hector sanchez" wanted add this in the past, this god also is less evolved in comparision with the egypcian gods.
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You brought up Hector Sanchez's Mexican heritage as a negative, as if Kotal Kahn's inclusion in the game was some act of racial bias or something. (surprised nobody called you on that) That's super racist, dog. "Less evolved with the egypcian gods?" That's an unfounded, pointless thing to say. Not winning any points with me with that stuff, man. Sorry.
 
mcgriffin said:
Good thing nobody here hates ninjas then. Except Sub-Zero. I read somewhere that to the Lin Kuei, 'ninja' is a slur.




Don't be too quick to praise me. I find half your posts just as disagreeable as Tarkatan Trash there. Sometimes more so. Both of you have a habit of using lots of aggressive, insulting language and hyperbole to make your points. The kind of language meant to intentionally undermine the people you disagree with, not their ideas. Also...




You brought up Hector Sanchez's Mexican heritage as a negative, as if Kotal Kahn's inclusion in the game was some act of racial bias or something. (surprised nobody called you on that) That's super racist, dog. "Less evolved with the egypcian gods?" That's an unfounded, pointless thing to say. Not winning any points with me with that stuff, man. Sorry.
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No, the problem is that here Kotal khan is a whim in really. Do you believe that rain at umk3 was productive? all why ed boon likes a song from "prince" called "purple rain"? is other case of whim in 1995/1996 and then you saw back to rain with a poncho in mkar, lol, rain is clearly a failed character mk3-mkt season

I have not problem with mexicans and aztec, less i do any kind of discriminations like you say.
But this "crazy whim" attitides" makes me bothers that is different is not about race or religions-
It´s more about the concept that you add to mk that is different. And not every concept fit on mk i mean at theory and practice.

Must i mention to you that onaga was a other failure? him was based in Ogre from Tekken too, was a result of whim, and no comment then at blaze mk ar. Also Argus ´s pyramid seem more aztec/mayan than egypcian. Prolly sanchez suggested make to onaga. Imo, acording between mayan/aztec and egypcian i have understood that egypcian were more advanced, anyway i can be wrong, i am not erudite in the ancient history from real archeology.

Other detail: if me praise to anyone, very probably me does this chornically, so i did not praised to you in really. Only i ´ve felt hyped that is differnt.
 
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Marcelino Rodrigues said:
Wait... WHAT? Rain's moves have LITERALLY NOTHING to do with Sub-Zero's. Not even the animations, let alone the gameplay. There's absolutely no point in common between Rain and Sub-Zero's specials. What moves are you even talking about??? And Rain's design has nothing to do with Noob Saibot's... I seriously don't understand what you mean, care to explain?
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Marcelino Rodrigues said:
Oooh sorry then, I thought he was referring to DLC Rain which was actually a pretty awesome character - both in terms of design and gameplay, very unique.
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But too i want talk that you refers:
Yes rain have shared some moves from subzero, i mean they are few, you can check in some combos moves that stiil there are.

Idk if NRS has removed them actually. Rain have the same liquid animations from Noob saibot when perform water animation.
Rightnow i can ´t remember 100% but i saw this months ago.

Also you can check that under rain ´s mask is subzero mk3 3d model from mk9. So i don ´t wants embitter to anybody, include Skarlet is a red head naked sonya with a mask and a huge menstruation, i mean a sonya swap, Imo this sucks.

The bad new for you is that the onlyone original dlc character in mk9: are Kenshi and the stupid freddy kruegger (is ironic cause catwoman is him at injustice gods among us game)
How i call it? a nasty generic idea from nrs and boon

Suddenly tremor at mk9 vita version, too is other stupid swap, and have moves jax and too have the smoke ´s stance, is again the stupid ed boon ´s generic style that i have always hated since 1995 until present day. At least Tremor in Mk SF does his own unique and original animation for make a fireball, just check his pose anim, why not boon has not keep attention on this? cause boon is a generic head.

It is was explanation of why dlc and extra character was a steal in mk9, also with an abused quanchi as hell
 
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Tarkatan Trash said:
Name your sources.

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For example:
on Rain, there is an animation called Side Swipe, it´s work pressing back + any button, well subzero have this same anim in one of his kombos called "Ice pick". I dare to say that Thundra slide kombo too is seemed.

Then check rain ´s teleport, you can see the same liquid animation from noob saibot when perform ´shadow up knee move. The difference is that liquid is not black.

Sorry but imo dlc characters is, was and will be a steal.
 
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the sources imo is the moves that you can perform from mk9 movlist.

You can check all the versions of mk9, starts at ps3, you shall find them, i had tryed almost versions except ps vita.
 
londonhellgate said:
the sources imo is the moves that you can perform from mk9 movlist.

You can check all the versions of mk9, starts at ps3, you shall find them, i had tryed almost versions except ps vita.
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Rain didn't copycat anyone. You're just imagining it.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
Rain didn't copycat anyone. You're just imagining it.

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I am not saying that him is copyat to anyone at least in story mode.
You can see that in umk3 there are human smoke and scorpion. Following your reasoning, yes include smoke is not doing copycat to scorpion. For any reason in mk2 reptile has earned his own moves. Not was the case case for cyber smoke, the original mk3 noob saibot. Less the others ninjas that have shared alot things with the stupid umk3 scorpion.
But the suddenly fact, is that they are generic and stupids. Human smoke is scorpion in grey, and its a nasty creation from boon in 1995/1996.
Here in mk9 with rain, i dare to say that nrs was generic too, but less in comparision with umk3, anyway for me and imo it ´s trash, cause are generics.

Anyway It is like as if nrs were doing copycat indirectly. Also is clear that rain is swap 3d model of subzero unmasked on mk9, again Rain is a steal from nrs.

pd: the only character that had the honor for be a generic fighter was reptile in mk1, cause in 1992 nobody has awaited a secret character in a fighting game. But the time has passed over the time and this showed that repeat this formula bring negative results.
 
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And did you know that a bunch of animations in MK9 for non-DLC characters were recycled from MK VS DC? It's not just Rain, it's just NRS being lazy.
 
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