I just finished a match where I got DESTROYED... and I thought I was a great player!

Any decent to good Kung Lao player has at least a decent chance of beating me, after losing to Kung enough I learned a good zone & counter method of fighting him but still that's just talk when it comes down to playing a good Kung Lao player. Im a pretty confident player and beaten my share of Kung Lao players but its nothing consistent for sure.

Kung Lao & Kano are the only characters when picked by someone ive never played before I really get into the focus mind game. Kung Lao much more then Kano, it takes heavy lag to effect my combos/playing but Kung Lao is a very lag friendly character. Id love to say his spin is all Kung has but that is easily like saying Mileena's Sai's or her teleport drop is all she has. So it really comes down to getting better at playing against him with whoever your using. His spin is a ***** though
 
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I have that problem but with kung lao and smoke instead. Don't usually have a problem with kano but any better player is obviously going to beat me, it's just easier for a kung lao player to get on that level imo.
 
this is exactly what online should be about, just trying to improve your game and have fun in the process. with the mess of an online game that this is, you cannot determine who is the better player which is why stats mean nothing in this game. for example i try to challenge people with the best records in the world who are ranked in the top 100 and i end up beating most of them. I'm not trying to brag here, just trying to prove stats and winning online does not determine the better player. i appreciate losing against some of these players as i can learn from my mistakes and improve my game next time.

this article has some good points about online play vs tourney's and is an interesting read: http://testyourmight.com/forum/cont...r-player-Part-2-Online-vs-Offline-Tournaments
 
MoonQuake said:
I got challenged by this guy (xxxcloudmcstrife27 or something) who had like 1200 wins and 120 loss. So I decide to give it a shot... I like a good challenge.

We both play as Kung Lao.

Round 1 - Fight!

He teleports and starts one of these sequences of combos one after the other, whaddaya know I'm down to 20% health in under 10 seconds. And I sure as hell held down the block button all the time.

I combo him once or twice with mixups.

He does the dive kick x4 combo in the corner and I die.

Round 2 was a bit more decent, but still, I wasn't fast enough and couldn't compensate for the slight lag we had. He used each every combo/trick/mixup and mind game he could use and he got me. I know I couldn't block fast enough and he was moving all over the screen and countering me like I was a noob. I could drop his health down to maybe 50% but that's because he obviously took it easier seeing I was no match for him. Lag didn't seem to affect him AT ALL.

I thought I was at about 85% efficiency with my main (lotsa hours practicing with my main and all other chars. about 200 fights online), but seeing how he played, made me realize I still got a lot to learn. A LOT!

Have you had a similar experience where you thought you were pretty good with your char. but got owned online?
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Obvious if he has over a thousand wins and only a few hundres losses, yeah he's probably better than you....js
 
Since most tournament players seem to believe that online means nothing, I guess most just don't play there that much. This is why you won't easily find competitive players online, why the average skill level is lower than in tournaments on top of the fact that there are thousands of casual players out there.

People that attend tourneys are just a mini fraction of the entire population of MK9 players. It's more realistic for the average person to concentrate his efforts winning and improving online. That's why online means something for quite a lot of people.

When I see a 100/10 guy online, I know he could've gotten there by challenging easier players and doesn't prove anything about his skill level but he could also be extremely good. When I see a 1200/100 enter the room I know for a fact he's got to be pretty good. No way you play that many games and not learn and not be a challenging opponent. Tourney level? I don't know. Let's find out and challenge him.
One thing that's for sure: if he completely destroys me online, chances are he will do the same offline since we will always be fighting under the same conditions.

"Obvious if he has over a thousand wins and only a few hundres losses, yeah he's probably better than you....js "
That's the beauty about online play, CHANCES are he will be better, but there are also chances I can beat him too. I don't know how many 500/300 or 300/40 I've beaten. I don't know how many 30/35 beat me. Example, a 1200/300 could've started earlier in the life of the game and played all the time mostly noobs and lost most of his matches at the beginning. Or he could be an MK9 tester and his 4/1 means he just started on a new account and doesn't represent his skill level at all. The W/L numbers don't represent a skill level to me, I see them only as a representation of the time spent playing the game. Was all the time spent fighting for your life or half drunk switching controllers with your buddies? I don't know, let's find out... let's fight!

I absolutely respect online play. I find its particularities to be a challenge for me. It's an extra dose of hazard that makes it feel like a street fight instead of an official boxing match at the MGM Grand under perfect conditions. It's dirty and raw.
I do play to win, and I take each of my fights seriously. I don't care about my stats as much as I care about just the experience of defending my own little pride and learning from thousands of people's fighting style.
If only the loudmouths and whiny kids could forever go away... :)

So, yeah, when that 1200/120 guy beat the noob out of me, he learned respect from me. :)
 
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Fact, some players try to protect their so "well done beloved" W/L record ratio, and so, they challenge mostly, people with negative record, and people with less skill than them ..... this way, it's easier to them to manage their fake record and try to pass the impression they are the "elite" type/kind of player .... lol !

A lot of 400/100, 500/300 and others types, you can bet that half of these wins were against people with inferior skill, where they beated them at least, 5-10 times in a row ... tracking and seeking for easier challenges.

They select purposely newcomers to challenge, to increase their daily winning rate and keep the stability of their W : L ratio. This means, somehow, they act as they believe they are improving in this game, while in fact, they are only keeping the same level .... and this camuflages how bad they can do in a more serious challenge against people who really put effort and try to study this game. Just in case they dare to challenge, for example, a 20 matches game session in a row challenge against people really good on MK 2011 ....

A very good player was in a random room yesterday, beating some guys 10,11 wins in a row, writing messages as "little weak, no sport" and crap stuff like that .... he sent me a challenge, and for every 3 wins he got , I was winning 1, until I felt bored, and after winning with Mileena against his Quan Chi, I left. He sent public message in MK room chat saying "Nice boy" .... next, sent me personal message in PS3 saying "Where you going, ******* ?" .... so, I fed his ego saying "Oh, you are pretty good, I gotta sleep, we try some matches tomorrow ...." .... so, you see the kind of childish ego some of these guys have, they know they cannot be perfect all the time, but, until someone make things a little harder to them, they feel they are the best players around, and this, it's pure naive illusion.

By the way , Albo put a very good TYM article, very interesting , a nice read material.
 
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I'll admit I am afraid of losing and having a horrible record. Just my personality. I don't have to b the best but I don't wanna b the worst either.

This is really the first online fighting game I've ever gotten Into. Usually for games I was more into role playing type like fable or heavy rain. But I love and grew ip on MK so it's my fav fighting game.

So bc of that I don't wanna suck and I practice hard. I'm 11-5 ranked and 28-22 in online rooms
 
yautjared said:
Fact, some players try to protect their so "well done beloved" W/L record ratio, and so, they challenge mostly, people with negative record, and people with less skill than them ..... this way, it's easier to them to manage their fake record and try to pass the impression they are the "elite" type/kind of player .... lol !

A lot of 400/100, 500/300 and others types, you can bet that half of these wins were against people with inferior skill, where they beated them at least, 5-10 times in a row ... tracking and seeking for easier challenges.

They select purposely newcomers to challenge, to increase their daily winning rate and keep the stability of their W : L ratio. This means, somehow, they act as they believe they are improving in this game, while in fact, they are only keeping the same level .... and this camuflages how bad they can do in a more serious challenge against people who really put effort and try to study this game. Just in case they dare to challenge, for example, a 20 matches game session in a row challenge against people really good on MK 2011 ....

A very good player was in a random room yesterday, beating some guys 10,11 wins in a row, writing messages as "little weak, no sport" and crap stuff like that .... he sent me a challenge, and for every 3 wins he got , I was winning 1, until I felt bored, and after winning with Mileena against his Quan Chi, I left. He sent public message in MK room chat saying "Nice boy" .... next, sent me personal message in PS3 saying "Where you going, ******* ?" .... so, I fed his ego saying "Oh, you are pretty good, I gotta sleep, we try some matches tomorrow ...." .... so, you see the kind of childish ego some of these guys have, they know they cannot be perfect all the time, but, until someone make things a little harder to them, they feel they are the best players around, and this, it's pure naive illusion.

By the way , Albo put a very good TYM article, very interesting , a nice read material.
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The ego thing is why I don't do mics or messaging. Lots of players r fuqin idiots with the mind and maturity of a 10yr old. I just ignore em and their comments.
 
back said:
Once in a blue moon, I get my ass kicked.
Badly too.

But I love it.
Helps me grow and learn from my mistakes.
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This.

Losses are a part of the game. Sometimes guys are better, sometimes its due to lag, sometimes youre just off your game. Just gotta use them as learning experiences and move on to the next one
 
What makes you , generally, win :

1. Know pretty well the character you are playing with
2. Know pretty well there character the opponet are using against you; know what special moves you think will be more used, what the combos starters you should be carefull, etc ....
3. Be relaxed, concentrated, strong mind in psychologic way and , after some rest time ....
4. Play the game when you feel like, and not like a drug addiction habit that you do when you don't feel like
5. Learn your past mistakes against others characters, and/or against a certain MK player that you play often online, against.
6. Develop a good observing sense, pay attention in the pattern the opponent do, because , he can repeat somethings that you catch and block / defend the next time he does, and so, punishing him next "anti-spamming" strategy mostly ......

What makes you, normally, lose :

1. Know only the basics for your main character
2. Don't want to understand other characters strong / weak points
3. Try to play in very stressful state of mind, or anger / nervous after some incident in your real life ....
4. Play the game when you are bored with, so, you feel lazy, arrogant / ****y and underestimate everyone online .....
5. Don't remember or don't fix bad habits done before, because sometimes you feel your opponent got lucky , and those defeats will not happen again , at least , for the same adversary
6. Too much rushdown in suicide rythm, without worrying if when you are not the one who is beating first the opponent, you are that one being hit and taking damage first and losing 50% of your health bar in 40 seconds .....
 
I fight people with 500+ wins over there losses daily and most of them you can tell grinded most there wins off newbs. I decline rematches from new players if I even fight them at all.

I play less then most I play with reguarly, my player match record means nothing and anyone who fights or has fought me will know it. I completely agree that stats don't mean anything, that playing good or better players is the only way to do it.
 
i consider myself to be a good player..and for him to beat me so badly with Liu Kang, i thought i was actually doing a very good job by figuring him out and beating him too...i can tell when a player good...it's hard to find good player online..and sometime when i found someone with good enough record, i would challenge them but most of the time they declined my challenge..that's why sometime i wrote "i guess i'm not noob enough for you guys to accept my challenge." i guess some online players only want to fight beginners to keep their record up...i actually gave those beginners who have the ball to challenge me a chance to fight me...i just don't like people with very good record who decline other players who also have very good record..my record wasn't bad..right now i'm around 120/20 1v1 if i remember it correctly...
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Ok, i just got the feeling that he wasn't no good from your message. And yeah i agree with you on that. That's really lame. I never thought that it was that that made them decline, maybe just busy or something. But yeah it makes sense.
 
Ive only been destroyed once online by a lui kang player, didnt teach me much except he can juggle me straight to the corner from the start of a match xD but was fun to watch.

ive actually got a bad win/loss ratio, (cant remember the numbers but im sure my loss is double my wins or almost) but, I got to admit, that mostly came from when i first started playing, Ive since spent alot of time in practice mode, so now when i play and get challenged, altho i dont win all my fights, im winning alot more, and that's also VS people with decent records (gotta love smashing people who think they will roll all over you)

either way, usually good fun.
 
sorry but... Tournaments provide LAG free Competitive play. And it's SOOOOO much more fun to play people in PERSON. And it's so much easier to learn from eachother because you opponent can tell you information about stuff alot easier in person (lag free) than online. Not to mention you can win games w/o your opponent blaming it on lag everytime.

I'm not saying you have to go to BIG national tournaments like EVO for Mortal Kombat (though I promise if you do you will learn A LOT if you ask questions and play really good players) But normal tournaments still have pride/ranking as well as prizes on the line so you're kind of forced to play correctly more so than online. online stats don't mean as much as Prize money/ Ranking in your area. Your skill is your skill.

If you can find good players in person i'd suggest meeting up a couple times a week and have a "MK FEST" and have like 7-10 people from in your town just rotate and play eachother with 2-3 setups in the house. Lag free practice is so much more fun than annoying online. And then it gets even MORE fun when you start road tripping to tournaments with the same people you practice with cheering eachother on in bracket/pools....

Telling you... I know from experience... playing people in person is ADDICTIVE once you get use to it.

There is a reason people have lan parties...
 
Yeah, I quickly realized how terrible I was at MK once I stepped online. Most of my K/D is in player matches when I play with my friends. >.<
 
Bruzzrad said:
Yeah, I quickly realized how terrible I was at MK once I stepped online. Most of my K/D is in player matches when I play with my friends. >.<
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That's the same as me. But I enjoy the game so win or loose it doesn't bother me.
 
I had 60-10 score ranked, i was like "I am so pro" 8]
Then some Mileena came and explained me where is my place (at practice mode) :D
She was like, bam bam bam - round 2 - bam bam bam and i was like "wait, what?"
He used sector also, it was even faster

Also, i lost (TODAY) at tag team vs some guy, he had very good score (score says nothing, but still...) but he was picking raiden and kano - spam spam spam spam spam...i need to rest now, i puke when someone wins me like that
 
I played the guy who is ranked #3 in the world in a ranked match and I thought I was doing good. Comes out to find he let me win the 1st. Then he straight destroyed my Kano with cyber sub. I was like wtf. The round 3 omfg the round 3. To make a long story short at the end of the fight he messaged me and said haha thanks for the trophy. His health was less than 10%. Nuff said. After that I knew I had to do better and practice more.
 
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