Goro will defeat Liu Kang

[mortalkombat]

So if one side loses a SECOND time... Can they demand another rematch?

No. Only the losing Realm of the first tournament can demand a rematch. This was why in Mortal Kombat 2, Kahn prepared to invade Earth Realm illegally in case a human won his Outworld tournament.

Hey, as long as he is the Champ I am good. Hmmm I never knew about the tornament thing. But the MK2, wasent it a false tornament?

There is some confusion circulating around what exactly the purpose of Kahn's tournament was. Some have argued that the tournament was unnecessary and the only reason Kahn was able to attract everyone to his tournament was for personal reasons for each character (for instance, killing the Shaolin Monks and destroying the temple).

However, there are other sources that indicate that Kahn's tournament was an invitation that could not be ignored or else they could invade Earth Realm.

I would have to say they're both true in that the tournament was real and fake. It was real that it was Shao Kahn's demand for a rematch in Mortal Kombat and that it was thus a continuation of the tournament, but it was fake in that he had no intention of following the rules or honors of the Elder Gods and prepared for Sindel's resurrection to open the portal to Earth during the events of MK2. It was an ingenious plan by Shang Tsung that would work in the emperor's favor regardless of win or loss.

I will also add that the destruction of the Shaolin Temple and the fellow monks was not just a ploy to lure Liu Kang, but to also gain more control of how and where the tournament is hosted. You see, in the past, the Shaolin choose six Grand Masters to host and judge the Mortal Kombat tournament. Shang Tsung used to fight for Earth Realm and became champion for selfish reasons (eternal youth), in which he was later cursed for by an unknown, furious God either before or after he was defeated by the Great Kung Lao.

However, at some point, one of the Grand Masters dies (probably murdered) and Shang Tsung reappears as an old man with Goro and is able to assume the deceased Grand Master's position as a Grand Master because he was a previous champion. While Goro is clobbering all Earth Realm contestants for centuries and winning points for Outworld while the rest of the Grand Masters are dying or slowly being killed off by Shang Tsung until the point where he is the only Grand Master and has sole control of the tournament besides whatever resistance the Shaolin Monks can provide.

This is why Shao Kahn will order his assassins to destroy the Shaolin Temple and the monks: so Shang Tsung will have complete control of the tournament and may move it to Outworld, where it will favor the emperor.

Thanks for the link. However, there's one thing that's left unnoticed...
During the intro, just when Shang launches a "Super Fireball", Shao Kahn tries to attack him, but Onaga shows up and apparently kills him (you can hear Kahn screaming). But it seems he survived the onslaught...

If Kahn indeed absorbed Blaze's power, then how come Raiden reverts back to his old self?
More importantly: where's Taven in all of this?

It's all messed up.

I wouldn't take the introduction too seriously. Kenshi is killed by Quan Chi and yet you can play as him and win Armageddon... Shang Tsung becomes an old man again, yet when you play as him, he is normal. It doesn't mean anything except presentation. I would say that Taven was probably killed by Daegon, who lost to someone else.

As for the trailer that shows Raiden confronting Shao Kahn... That is not the Armageddon fight. I believe it is a fight that will happen during Shao Kahn's Outworld tournament, in which Raiden will probably try to kill the emperor outside the tournament (being motivated to prevent Armageddon by his visions).

 

[Ricochetmatt]

No. Only the losing Realm of the first tournament can demand a rematch. This was why in Mortal Kombat 2, Kahn prepared to invade Earth Realm illegally in case a human won his Outworld tournament.

And now my next question... How did Kahn get away with it? Why didn't the Gods punish him for breaking the rules?

 

[mortalkombat]

I think they did attempt to counteract Kahn, indirectly, through Liu Kang (similar to Scorpion in Deception).

They don't seem to be able to interfere directly with the affairs of mortals if it doesn't involve the actual tournament competition. I would guess Kahn committed a "lesser offense" by intentionally resurrecting Sindel on Earth Realm, because since she is married to him, he is allowed to claim her as his by any means possible. I guess that's some sacred rite of the Elder Gods that they know he abused but probably can't do much about directly, for absolute moral reasons.

 

[Etryus]

My idea was that basically: Earth Realm will lose to Outworld in the first tournament to Goro.

In the original time line, the tournament was a single elimination competition, presumably with Liu Kang and Goro fighting in the finals and then Kang winning. However, Raiden's tampering with the time might worry the Elder Gods. They may fear the corruption of Dark Raiden's tampering more than Shao Kahn conquering Earth Realm, so they'll not only continue rewarding Goro with eternal youth (the gift to MK champions), they will increase his strength in an attempt to counteract Raiden's distortion of reality.

Goro will defeat Liu Kang in the finals because of the actions of the Elder Gods and he will try to fatality Liu Kang until Raiden illegally intervenes.

Normally, this would result in serious consequences, but being cocky with their victory, Shang Tsung and Goro let Liu Kang live out of humility. Additionally, according to the rules of Mortal Kombat, the losing realm can declare a re-match tournament. Shang Tsung, being the Grand Master host, will allow Raiden's interference with preventing Liu Kang's fatality because he is confident Goro will win the next tournament, which will be in Outworld, just like MK2.

I think people don't realize that Mortal Kombat 2 was Outworld demanding a rematch in Mortal Kombat against Earth Realm. I think it will be the case again, except Earth Realm will demand it.

In the Outworld tournament, everything will still be the same except the stakes are even higher for Earth Realm. They have no hero or champion to rely on... Liu Kang is full of self-doubt and Outworld has even more of an advantage having the tournament in Outworld now.

I also think it will be a plot device to eliminate Kintaro and expand the role of Goro and Shang Tsung. It would also make Liu Kang's ascension to Mortal Kombat champion be more dramatic and dark. He may lose but he will have a shot at redemption and becoming champion through Mortal Kombat hosted by Grand Master Shang Tsung in Outworld.

Interesting twist but there is something you are missing: the original story of MK 1. MK 1 is supposed to be the 10th tournament, and Tsung winning will result in outworld taking over earthrealm:

Mortal Kombat

Mortal Kombat is the first game in the Mortal Kombat fighting game series by Midway. It was released in arcades in 1992. It centers on the first Mortal Kombat tournament (in Shang Tsung, Goro, & Raiden's case they know it's actually the 10th tournament) and the ultimate defeat of the evil Shang Tsung by the monk Liu Kang. With Outworld already having won 9 tournaments in a row, our heroes would have to avoid handing Earth Realm the 10th loss, or all of humanity would crumble into the darkness of the Outworld

If your story is true and I wouldn't mind if it is, I wonder how NR will explain that.

 

[Blackcyborg]

Interesting twist but there is something you are missing: the original story of MK 1. MK 1 is supposed to be the 10th tournament, and Tsung winning will result in outworld taking over earthrealm:

Mortal Kombat


If your story is true and I wouldn't mind if it is, I wonder how NR will explain that.

I believe he explained it multiple times in this post. The losing side can apparently call for a rematch, and if they win the rematch the previous victory will be replaced.

 

[Etryus]

I believe he explained it multiple times in this post. The losing side can apparently call for a rematch, and if they win the rematch the previous victory will be replaced.

Is there an official source stating this? I remember back then at the arcades everyone stressing about this 10th victory and what would MK 2 be if Kang would loose to Tsung.

 

[mortalkombat]

http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/The_first_Mortal_Kombat_tournament

According this this article, the losing realm of Mortal Kombat can declare a rematch tournament that will cancel out their loss and be counted as a continuation of their winning streak. I believe it originally comes from the comic books.

I think Raiden might intervene before Goro would fatality Liu Kang (seeing as how his realm is doomed anyway and considering he is haunted by his visions of Kahn). That would be when he would demand for a rematch tournament and Tsung and Goro, being cocky from their victory, would let Kang live in humility because they're confident Goro would win again.

 

[BAC05]

Only thing I don't like about this storyline is the lack of Kintaro and Motaro . I wish there were away to fit these two in the story arc. Maybe Shao Kahn believes that shang Tsu and goro are over confident and without them knowing Hires Kintaro. Goro is Defeated in the Rematch and Shao Kahn intervenes with Kintaro.

But how will Motaro fit into this?

 

[Ricochetmatt]

Sadly I don't think Motaro or Kintaro are making it into the game... Unless they're secret boss characters, designed to be generals for Shao Kahn (in case something happens to Goro).

 

[jarvis653]

Sadly I don't think Motaro or Kintaro are making it into the game... Unless they're secret boss characters, designed to be generals for Shao Kahn (in case something happens to Goro).

Kintaro's exclusion I can understand, since we already have Goro and presumably Sheeva. But Motaro? He is unique and deserves a place in this game.

While I too have my doubts, I still have faith that at least Motaro will be in as sub-boss to Kahn, as Goro is to Shang. I think he's more likely than Kintaro due to being one of a kind, and NR placing a big emphasis on variation.

Additionally, Goro and Motaro may be joined by the Coliseum monster, who would replace Kintaro as Kahn's 'pet'. I imagine a scenario where Kahn would pit sub-bosses against you in the Coliseum, as it was done in Rome. Then finally stand from his throne and take you on himself.

 

[mortalkombat]

I highly doubt Motaro will be put into this game because it was impossible to do so with past 3D games (and this game is still technically a 3D game) because of the 3D graphics.

I believe Kintaro will be replaced simply because (as interesting as he is) he is too similar to Goro and Sheeva. His story line also makes little sense and feels lacking. Shang Tsung could replace Motaro as a sub-boss... if he's already defeated as an old man, then he will become an even stronger sub-boss after his youth is restored (which would make sense).

Not only does this story idea create an interesting twist for the story but it also conveniantly eliminates these sub-bosses, which adds all the more reason to suspect they might implement these ideas.

I also think they are trying to create a pattern with characters. It seems like they're trying "two warrior per race/ faction". So... there's Goro and Sheeva.

 

[Ricochetmatt]

I highly doubt Motaro will be put into this game because it was impossible to do so with past 3D games (and this game is still technically a 3D game) because of the 3D graphics.

I believe Kintaro will be replaced simply because (as interesting as he is) he is too similar to Goro and Sheeva. His story line also makes little sense and feels lacking. Shang Tsung could replace Motaro as a sub-boss... if he's already defeated as an old man, then he will become an even stronger sub-boss after his youth is restored (which would make sense).

Not only does this story idea create an interesting twist for the story but it also conveniantly eliminates these sub-bosses, which adds all the more reason to suspect they might implement these ideas.

I also think they are trying to create a pattern with characters. It seems like they're trying "two warrior per race/ faction". So... there's Goro and Sheeva.

Impossible? Uh, says who? There's no way in hell it's "impossible".

 

[mortalkombat]

That was what they said when Motaro was changed to two-legged Minotaur.

 

[Ricochetmatt]

That was what they said when Motaro was changed to two-legged Minotaur.

Well they're ****ing bullshitter. There's no reason why Motaro can't be in this game as a Centaur.

 

[jarvis653]

I highly doubt Motaro will be put into this game because it was impossible to do so with past 3D games (and this game is still technically a 3D game) because of the 3D graphics.

Wrong. Firstly, this is a 2D game
with 3D graphics. 3D MK games included the side-stepping element, which MK9 does not. That aspect and the aspect of a four-legged Motaro's size made his inclusion problematic in 3D MK.

I was actually involved in such a discussion a while back, in which I created an image consisting of a four-legged Motaro in MK9, with a correct ratio to his opponent. He fit perfectly. I'm on an iPhone so I can't find that post right now, but I'll post the image again later, which I'm confident will convince you.

 

[raijin]

personally I think the direction they take with this game will be more along the lines of actually putting an end to the outworld forces. that means death for shang tsung and shao kahn. none o that " no one ever really dies in MK" how else could they avert disaster and stop armageddon? I think we will see the true deaths of some of the villains.

I do agree however with your theory on goro beating kang. it would make sense for him to be the only shokahn in MK. but I do think that we will see one or more of the major villains get killed off. this of course also opens up the story enough for real development and a new direction in future mortal kombats

 

[mortalkombat]

I think it possibly explains why we're not seeing Kano and Sonya being chained up in Kahn's arena. It could be that since Outworld won Mortal Kombat [1], Shang Tsung's forces have not decided to kidnap anyone because there as no need.

raijin, I am not sure about your comment regarding "the final deaths" of certain characters. It feels as if a lot of people do not like the concept of their continued existence because they do not understand the mythos behind it. After all, if NRS just start eliminating characters, that also limits their potential story developments.

Personally, I think it would be humorous if Shao Kahn wins in the end despite everything that has been done against him.

 

[jarvis653]

@mortalkombat
I found the image I made of Motaro in MK9.
His size and the space he occupies don't pose a problem in MK9's 2D environment.

Personally, I think it would be humorous if Shao Kahn wins in the end despite everything that has been done against him.

I'd also enjoy such dark humor, but at the same time I'd like to see Kahn die a horrible death once and for all.
All we had in the classics was his body cracking and blowing up..."You are the Supreme Mortal Kombat Warrior!" :laugh:
So this time around, we should get to really massacre him.

 

[jka12002]

Would be kinda funny if they had a 2D sprites option.

 

[mortalkombat]

@mortalkombat
I found the image I made of Motaro in MK9.
His size and the space he occupies don't pose a problem in MK9's 2D environment.

I imagine creating his graphic would be extremely difficult as compared to what they've done with all of the females and probably most of the males as well. I would also think the new play mechanics (each button represent left/ right punching and kicking might also be a problem with four legs and his infamous back-legged kick in MK3).

I won't pretend like I am some staunch opponent on including Motaro that understands why he can or can't be in. I would definitely like to see how he would play in this game, and he's definitely needed for there to be a Shokan resistance and assuming Sheeva will be in this game. However, I could also see him NOT being in the game... I don't really know, but it at least doesn't attack my overall theory about this game's new story.

@mortalkombat I'd also enjoy such dark humor, but at the same time I'd like to see Kahn die a horrible death once and for all.
All we had in the classics was his body cracking and blowing up..."You are the Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion!"
So this time around, we should get to really massacre him.

No..!! It must be a tradition that's maintained! Shao Kahn must always win, especially when no one expects it! But in seriousness, there are plenty of plot developments for Outworld taking over Earth Realm. Plenty of interesting characters in other realms that can be introduced in sequels... Imagine if Shao Kahn were alive in Onaga's return? He may become the target of extreme wrath, but he would not be that easily destroyed because of the new power he has taken from taking Earth Realm's souls and new warriors, such as Frost or Kenshi.

It doesn't have to be the good guys that win to advance the story... but I'm not saying Earth Realm has to be completely crushed either.