Future of MK

That's dumb as hell this Isn't Microsoft lol. The logo at the bottom says Mortal Kombat not Mortal Kombat 1. Lets get a real reveal from NRS themselves before jumping to conclusions. It's a leak after all if MK1 is the official name than I'll edit it once NRS/WB confirms.
 
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Sure. I'm just saying they can pull exactly what they've done in MK9, and put some characters from 3D era again. Can, not will. I think most of us on this rock already know to keep our expectations low..... like, very, very, very, VERY low.

Also MK TikTok or whatever posted a video with MK1 Scorpion Sub-Zero and Reptile. There you have it...
Yeah, I have very, very, very, very, very , very low expectations for it.
11 months later type of a purchase levels of low.........if that.
Wow, great news, if they are true... I'm wondering what content will we get this time in Kollector's edition.... hope it won't be Scorpion or Sub-Zero this time.
Wouldn't doubt it if it was Scorpion and / or Sub-Zero klassic skins + Klassic Fatalities (like with MK9), once again, because NRS sure as shit loves to keep selling and selling the same goddamn klassic ninja skins and Fatalties to people who will keep buying the same shit over and over again with MK9, MKX and MK11.

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Also, the fact that the Switch is listed means that it'll be running on the lowest running system between the current PS5, Series X|S, Switch and PC, options. Yeah, a Series S will run it just fine. Lol
 
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Yeah, I have very, very, very, very, very , very low expectations for it.
11 months later type of a purchase levels of low.........if that.
Well if we to believe NRS track record, their games get on sale like 2 months after release. In 11 months you'd be looking at -75%.

Gotta get those 15 million copies :cool:
 
Wouldn't doubt it if it was Scorpion and / or Sub-Zero klassic skins + Klassic Fatalities (like with MK9), once again, because NRS sure as shit loves to keep selling and selling the same goddamn klassic ninja skins and Fatalties to people who will keep buying the same shit over and over again with MK9, MKX and MK11.

Damn they sell things that people love to buy?! What kind of fucked up business practice is that?!
 
Damn they sell things that people love to buy?! What kind of fucked up business practice is that?!
Point being, which you decided to twist to your own narrative is that they sell the same shit over and over game after game.
How original.
Some other skins from other eras, nah, just re-sell the same goddamn MKII and MK3 skins and klassic Fatalities since 2011.
 
I get what you're saying but I think classic outfits/skins are the least of our worries. If their game turns out to be a yawn fest like MK11 was IMO. I don't see them getting by on just nostalgia alone this time. There's too much competition for NRS to be resting on their laurels.
 
That's the thing, though, they know that people will buy it so long as the same Trilogy / MK9 stuff, so they can choose to be lazy, sit on their laurels and half-ass shit............. and people will STILL eat it right up just because "Mortal Kombat."
This day and age, that's not good enough.
Street Fighter 6 has a motherfucking konquest mode in this day and age...........Street Fighter 6.
That game's looking like a hell of a competitor for NRS to beat.
As a fan (to me) it's also fucking infuriating to watch the same shit being recycled and watching NRS half-ass a bunch of shit game after game.
NRS has proven thus far that all they'd need to do to get people to buy it is put the MKII & MK3 roster, put in a bunch of klassic stages and people will buy it regardless.
I mean, shit MK11 was more nostalgia over-load than MKX in terms of klassic costumes / gear, characters, klassic Fatalities via Brutalities and klassic stages and they STILL half-ass shit..............
Robocop cyber Lin Kuei skins?
3-in-1 Shang Tsung ninjas?
Kitana half-assed Mileena variation?
That's fucking half-assed stuff.
As much as I'd prefer to have more 3D era stuff in, they've been lazy since before even during MKX with Triborg.
It's a fucking miracle that Fujin ended up turning out to be as fun as he was in MK11, but the main game's story was also a goddamn snooze-fest compared to the MKX comics and Aftermath. Maybe that's just because I'm more invested in the lore when it comes to that, though.
 
Point being, which you decided to twist to your own narrative is that they sell the same shit over and over game after game.
How original.
Some other skins from other eras, nah, just re-sell the same goddamn MKII and MK3 skins and klassic Fatalities since 2011.

Does that change anything? Regardless of what it is, people still love to buy it. People love classic MK, so they sell classic MK. It isn't that hard to understand lol
 
I have seen people compare the PS2/Xbox era characters to SF3 characters for being originally unpopular. At least, the SF3 characters have grown to be big fan favorites expect for Remy. Not the same with characters from MKDA-MKA other than a few like Kenshi, Frost, Havik, Nitara, etc. Characters like Mavdo, Hsu Hao, Dairou, Darrius, etc will never come back. NRS will feel like it's too risky for them to bring back figthers no likes.
 
Of course,the fact that the're reseting the timeline doesn't mean its another retelling of MK 1-3.The ''MK multiverse of madness'' doesn't seem that bad of an idea.They've proved that they can't write if their lives depended on it,so might as well go the full batshit crazy route.
If nothing else,since MK is the most graphically advanced of fighters,I'm eager to see how the game will look like being current gen only.

Stagnant roster is annoying and all,but the roster isn't the most important thing about the game IMO.SF6 also has all the World Warriors in and no characters from Alpha and 3 eras,but still looks like the best fighting game Capcom has dropped this century so far.

The complaint of over attachment to Trilogy characters is well represented here,so I have another useless ''hot take'': traditional Fatalities are a waste of time.The Brutalities as introduced in MKX are basically the evolution of Fatalities.They are cooler,funnier and are actually relevant to gameplay.Fatalities in comparision are just an after match cutscene you have to sit through WAY too many times.
 
I hope we can see something new because we seen MK1 told so many times. My prediction they will be like "Screw it. Let's go back to the original timeline again". Some people feel like that you could still have done a sequel to Armgeddon without rebooting everything depsite 99% of everyone being dead.
 
Fatalities in comparision are just an after match cutscene you have to sit through WAY too many times.
That's pretty much at least 50% of NuMK. You sit there and watch cutscenes...

Story mode: have your 1v1 fight, cutscene, DONE. Funny thing but at least in MKX they added QTE into cutscenes, albeit very poorly....
Fatalities: just watch this cutscene here....
Friendships: cutscene.
Babality: cutscene.
Fatal blows or whatever they're called... C U T S C E N E.... I like how in MK9 Xrays, there were short and to the point. Plus a lot of them could be extended into combos.... But nah, lets get rid of that and instead have two types of "CiNeMaTiC" cutscenes that you'd watch over and over in MK11....

But yes, at least with Brutalities there's some interaction.
 
99% of everyone being dead.
Not really,though

The thing about returning to the original timeline though,is that Deadly Alliance and Deception had more complex storylines,many more factions and things happening at the same time.Characters had their own thing going on that didn't really immediately relate to the main plot and didn't always fit in the good or bad side.
I don't think they'll return to those types of storytelling so it would still fefl watered down,at least for the fans of those games.
 
I like the idea of Peacmaker and Homelander, but Conan seems random. Considering it feels late if they want to use the 80s movie version. There's a Conan show in the works for Amazon could be a packpage deal with Homelander. Some people will be like "He's probably in public domain" when that's not true. He's still own by Robert E. Howard's estate until 2028.
 
The leak that is suggesting homelander or peace maker is gonna be guest is lame, like why are we hearing about kharacters that doesnt fit MK is being discussed over actual MK kharacters? I find it absurd. I buy MK to play MK kharacters only. I hate how they try to make these guest as selling point in the newer games. My thing is guest appearing in MK games should've of never happened. They dont even try with the games anymore. MK12 , 1 or whatever its called is gonna be a bust why you think they havent showed it? Exactly my point. I just have that gut feeling, the game isn't gonna deliver an its gonna come up short. They are rebooting the timeline again like yawn! Like me guess special forces and liu kang hogging up the spolight as usual? Ever since WB has owned MK they havent done nothing but repeat the same shit in a different way. Midway> WB any fucking day, the games back then had heart and soul now all WB see it as is a cash grab, they dont give fuck about MK in the slighest. They will keep reapting the same triliogy roster with guest that doesnt make any sense just for the promate a movie, meanwhile those same guest or "cash grabs" is taking spots away from actual MK kharacters. Im getting to the point where my love for the franchise is starting to fade.
 
I have seen people compare the PS2/Xbox era characters to SF3 characters for being originally unpopular. At least, the SF3 characters have grown to be big fan favorites expect for Remy. Not the same with characters from MKDA-MKA other than a few like Kenshi, Frost, Havik, Nitara, etc. Characters like Mavdo, Hsu Hao, Dairou, Darrius, etc will never come back. NRS will feel like it's too risky for them to bring back figthers no likes.
That's because NRS doesn't generally seem to give a shit about the 3D era, sadly.
I was more than willing to give BOTH the MKX new characters and MK11 new characters a chance (and I have), but even then their shitty writing and implementation of them in gameplay means that we also get horseshit like yes mother / bland Cetrion, Kollector, Erron Bleh and D'Vorah.
They'd rather keep shoveling these types of characters and sidelining the 3D era characters.
3 motherfucking MK games and DLC in the last 9 years (counting when MK11 stopped their DLC in 2020) and all that there is to show for the 3D era is Quan Chi, Kenshi, Shinnok, Tanya, Bo Rai Cho, whatever the fuck that thing is in 11 called "Frost" and surprisingly the well-done Fujin.
That's it.
Only 7 damn characters from the 3D era over 3 games.
Meanwhile, just about every fucking MK1 through UMK3 character has returned for 2 or more of the recent games......save for Smoke and Stryker.
We can sure as shit count on 5 out of the 12 DLC characters being fucking guests, though.:rolleyes:
 
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Does that change anything? Regardless of what it is, people still love to buy it. People love classic MK, so they sell classic MK. It isn't that hard to understand lol

That's not a good justification/reasoning. People will buy garbage, if it is shiny enough. We have people buying an expensive phone every year with insane price tag, just because the number on it is higher, than the previous one from the last year. Even though the new phone doesn't bring anything to justify its price tag.

What @Commander is saying (and feel free to correct me, if I am wrong)
Is what I am also thinking. JUST CAUSE you can get away with selling same shit over and over again, doesn't mean you should.
And I am not even bringing moral/ethical reasons here. I am talking about the longevity/quality of the thing you're selling and how the mentality of "lazy, but smart" is destroying it in the long run.


Let's analyze the sentence "Damn they sell things, that people love to buy?!"
They sell the same two characters, every damn time (actually Scorpion now being the only one in the front). Why? Obviously, cause it is safe. These characters are popular, simple, they have contradicting powers and it matches the the theme of the game.
Wait... do they really?

The game is about a Mortal Kombat tournament. Martial Arts tournament. So these two guys compete in it and represent the fighting part. And their contrasting colors represent opposing sides. Ok. That checks out.
So the game must be about them. Oh wait. It ain't. They are a SUB PLOT, that is SELF CONTAINED too. Not even a main one. Main characters of the franchise can be pretty much considered Liu Kang and Raiden. They have the most screen time and the main plot most of the time revolves around at least one of them.
So, let me get this straight. Outside of the game, you sell me covers of Scorpion/Sub Zero, but in the game the characters I am supposed to be rooting for, are Raiden and Liu Kang? Excuse me, but what the fuck?

Scorpion was also already prominently marketed in MKX (With Sub Zero being secondary) and his role in MKX was... screwing things up and then never being seen again?
MK11 Cover is just Scorpion. What does he do in the story? One version of him dies to B tier villain in the most pathetic way, while the younger version is last seen smacking some robots on the ship and is never seen again for the final fight. And he is sold on the cover. It's like putting Dr. Kleiner or Barney on a cover for Half Life 2. These guys play a pretty big role, but you play as a freaking Gordon Freeman, man. So basically you're selling me a character, that has nothing to do with the main plot. The only reason, he is on the front cover, is because certain imbecile has a hard on for him.
And the game has 30 years of characters too. Sonya Blade, Kung Lao, Reptile, etc.
Why not sell figurines of them? Why not sell merch with them? The UP TO DATE merch that is. Why not put them on the cover as well? Mortal Kombat is the only franchise in fighting games, that sells you a character on the cover, that has barely anything to do with the main plot and isn't even a main character.

Failure in the most basic marketing.
They are not selling what people want, but what THEY want people to buy. How many other characters have their fans? Character's popularity solely depends on the creator. They could sell other characters too, but they don't, cause they don't wanna. Why bother? Sub Zero and Scorpion is selling fine as it is. Why invest time in making anything else? Sure there are definitely fans of other characters, but... eh. They are just going with "lazy, but smart" route. Minimum effort, for maximum profit.

Logically that makes sense. Why bother putting effort in making anything else shine, if you can just sell same shit, with different paint job every time?
Well... that affects the value of the thing you're selling. If you're presenting the game with such mentality, sooner of later people get bored of it and because you haven't invested any time in building anything else, you find yourself at the loss, which just makes you sell same shit even harder, until shit fails and you blame everyone for that and rage quit. Every single time.

MK could be so much more, but NRS is selling everything on Brand recognition now. And has been like that for years now. They don't care about the lore, world building, quality or giving proper content. It is just about milking the franchise dry, while making it look pretty.
MK11 was the laziest game so far. And it worked for them.

So... why should they bother to add more? Why would they bother to innovate? They just got rewarded, for selling you semi mobile game with multiple currencies, in game shop and Krypt that operates as a Loot Box simulator. If that sold well, then might as well double down on entire thing.

And why they are throwing all these tiny bullshit teasers, building the hype, instead of just dropping the trailer for the game already? In the past, they would just throw you a cinematic trailer or start strong with gameplay. But now we got 2 teasers showing a sand grain and a clock. Both can be done quickly.

My bet? They are doing what a lot of shitty AAA games have been doing lately. They hype you up with cinematic trailers/teasers, so once the gameplay comes out, it doesn't hit as hard, once you see what the game itself is nothing special. If MK12 reveals a live service game with extreme monetization and cut content, then you will get to see what happens, when people try to be smartasses, by doing bare minimum.

Just cause shit sells, doesn't mean you shouldn't put effort in making something great and expand on it. Sooner or later someone will catch up and you will be left behind, cause your entire shtick was based on a hope, that nobody else will want to innovate and grow.

I will be legitimately shocked if MK12 will have anything special aside visual upgrade.
 
The leak that is suggesting homelander or peace maker is gonna be guest is lame, like why are we hearing about kharacters that doesnt fit MK is being discussed over actual MK kharacters? I find it absurd. I buy MK to play MK kharacters only. I hate how they try to make these guest as selling point in the newer games. My thing is guest appearing in MK games should've of never happened. They dont even try with the games anymore. MK12 , 1 or whatever its called is gonna be a bust why you think they havent showed it? Exactly my point. I just have that gut feeling, the game isn't gonna deliver an its gonna come up short. They are rebooting the timeline again like yawn! Like me guess special forces and liu kang hogging up the spolight as usual? Ever since WB has owned MK they havent done nothing but repeat the same shit in a different way. Midway> WB any fucking day, the games back then had heart and soul now all WB see it as is a cash grab, they dont give fuck about MK in the slighest. They will keep reapting the same triliogy roster with guest that doesnt make any sense just for the promate a movie, meanwhile those same guest or "cash grabs" is taking spots away from actual MK kharacters. Im getting to the point where my love for the franchise is starting to fade.

Guest figthers bring more attention to the game. I know people who became fans of horror movies because of the horror movie guest or people who only played MK11 because Spawn was in it. Heck, many people got into the Soul Calibur games because of the console guest figthers. I also became a fan of Shin Megami Tensei back in the 2000s when I hear Dante was back in the day.

It won't surprise me if the guest leaks are true seeing that they tend to be. The leaks for Jason and Predator for MKX end up being true before it was officially announced.
 
Guest figthers bring more attention to the game. I know people who became fans of horror movies because of the horror movie guest or people who only played MK11 because Spawn was in it. Heck, many people got into the Soul Calibur games because of the console guest figthers. I also became a fan of Shin Megami Tensei back in the 2000s when I hear Dante was back in the day.

It won't surprise me if the guest leaks are true seeing that they tend to be. The leaks for Jason and Predator for MKX end up being true before it was officially announced.
You do realize, that you can also bring a lot of attention, by just... having confidence in your own product?
Depending on guest characters to bring attention is just lazy. But again. If they don't care about the brand's quality itself, but just the sales of it, then guest characters it is. The game's identity will get lost in it, but it is a whatever for the company so might as well just accept that this is the direction they are going.
Other fighting games do crossover characters, but not to this level. And usually it is from other fighting games or at least something that makes sense within the world. MK11 had how many guests now? Terminator, Robocop, Rambo, Joker and Spawn. That's 5. 5 MK characters got replaced by guest characters. That's a complete of any faith in your own IP at this point.
 
We were going to have guest figthers over the bad 3D era characters anyways. Do you think Mavado would have a chance for a spot on his own in MKX or MK11. The later MK characters don't have the same charm and following that SF3 characters do because unlike them, they never come back expect for a few. I think guests have some good variety because it would be boring if they keep on rehashing the same MK1-3 characters for every DLC pack.
 
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