Fire & Ice - Slight SPOILERS

Should NRS make Fire & Ice Next?

  • Hell Yes!!! It Will Sell like Hotcakes!!!

    Votes: 24 66.7%

  • Nah, no more ninjas focus on someone else.

    Votes: 5 13.9%

  • Just Let it Go! NRS won't do it, it's done and dusted, it's all about the kids Now.

    Votes: 7 19.4%
  • Total voters
    36
Id rather see a sequel to MKSM maybe this time taking place right after MKx with DE Liu and Rev Kung Lao as playable characters. Idk i just want to see a new Mk adventure game so I think i'll take anything at this point as long as it good
 
Since ermac is good in handling souls, he May be able to free The revenants from The spell, that could pave The way for ermac being like smoke in MKSM, a mentor so to speak and liu kang, kung lao and kitana could set on an adventure in helping out different realms.
 
Jin Kazama said:
Since ermac is good in handling souls, he May be able to free The revenants from The spell, that could pave The way for ermac being like smoke in MKSM, a mentor so to speak and liu kang, kung lao and kitana could set on an adventure in helping out different realms.
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You mean, like Ermac did in Liu Kang's MKD ending? I'd play the hell out of that, as much as I'd rather see Netherrealm become kind of a "third side" in the usual Earth-Outworld feud.
 
Jin Kazama said:
Since ermac is good in handling souls, he May be able to free The revenants from The spell, that could pave The way for ermac being like smoke in MKSM, a mentor so to speak and liu kang, kung lao and kitana could set on an adventure in helping out different realms.
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Yes! I would LOVE it Ermac went down that path again, becoming independent like in the original timeline, instead of serving yet another a-hole. XD

If anyone could do it, it would definately be Ermac who freed the remaining revenants. ^^
 
I'd be actually more interested in how it would play. A MK spinoff with a combat system similiar to the Batman Arkham games?
 
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Deathstruck said:
I'd be actually more interested in how it would play. A MK spinoff with a combat system similiar to the Batman Arkham games?
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For mortal kombat, at least in my opinion it would be a downgrade in terms of gameplay. I mean I really like the gameplay for batman, but mk was and is eh combo/juggle heavier and doesn't feel like: "ok press this,this,this,target lock,continue,.....". I don't know at least in my opinion less would be offered that way.
 
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Jin Kazama said:
For mortal kombat, at least in my opinion it would be a downgrade in terms of gameplay. I mean I really like the gameplay for batman, but mk was and is eh combo/juggle heavier and doesn't feel like: "ok press this,this,this,target lock,continue,.....". I don't know at least in my opinion less would be offered that way.
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I didn't meant that as an entire copycat of the Batman fighting system. Something like a hybrid between shaolin monks and the arkham games (which means, you still retain your juggle and combos, and at the same time you can parry incoming attacks, lock onto targets and combine them into a combo punisher with juggle etc. etc.).

Just because it hasn't been done before, doesn't mean it's impossible IMHO. I have high hopes in the developers' competence.
 
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Deathstruck said:
I didn't meant that as an entire copycat of the Batman fighting system. Something like a hybrid between shaolin monks and the arkham games (which means, you still retain your juggle and combos, and at the same time you can parry incoming attacks, lock onto targets and combine them into a combo punisher with juggle etc. etc.).

Just because it hasn't been done before, doesn't mean it's impossible IMHO. I have high hopes in the developers' competence.
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Well that sounds awesome, I can see that. I think you're absolutely right, they should do that at some time for sure.
 
Fire & Ice needs to see the light of day ASAP. This was on Midway's radar after MKSM before financial trouble sank the project and eventually the company itself anyway. And besides, NRS would be stupid NOT to even consider it, especially since Sub-Zero and Scorpion are the foremost marquee characters of MK, and have been since 1992.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
Fire & Ice needs to see the light of day ASAP. This was on Midway's radar after MKSM before financial trouble sank the project and eventually the company itself anyway. And besides, NRS would be stupid NOT to even consider it, especially since Sub-Zero and Scorpion are the foremost marquee characters of MK, and have been since 1992.
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And that was a fine idea, PRE-MKX, but now that Sub-Zero and Scorpion are on good terms and they have eliminated their biggest nemesis (Quan Chi), what is there left for them to do?
Shinnok is also nothing more than a servered head after MKX.
So, again, what would a Scorpion and Sub-Zero game even be about?
 
Commander said:
So, again, what would a Scorpion and Sub-Zero game even be about?
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Hang on, what? Did the OP say that story-wise it would take place after the events of MKX? I don't think that's a given.

Don't you think it would make more sense to keep the tried and true story line about their vendetta? You might think that everyone's sick of that as it's been done to death, but realistically it's only a fraction of the fanbase who feels that way. Mainstream audience would eat that up, because it's 80% of what they know about the franchise - those two feuding ninjas.
 
Nethervestige said:
Don't you think it would make more sense to keep the tried and true story line about their vendetta? You might think that everyone's sick of that as it's been done to death, but realistically it's only a fraction of the fanbase who feels that way. Mainstream audience would eat that up, because it's 80% of what they know about the franchise - those two feuding ninjas.
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Why take 2 steps back, though, when that vendetta was settled in MKX?
Makes no sense, imo.
Shinnok is just a severed head and Quan Chi is dead in MKX.
Their source of "revenge" is dead, and there's no reason for it.

Had Quan Chi still lived in MKX and none of the stuff between Sub-Zero and Scorpion happened in the last game, then I could see the point of chasing him down and having the 2 get together to form an uneasy alliance to take him down in a side-story game.
Once again, though, most of the key characters that would make a Scorpion and Sub-Zero game interesting are either dead or out of the picture (Shang Tsung, Sektor, Smoke, Quan Chi, Shinnok, The Lin Kuei Grandmaster) and Cyrax is AWOL.

Shaolin Monks made sense because it took place between MKII and MK3, and that story between Liu Kang and Kung Lao during that era had not been explored.


What is there left to explore between Sub-Zero and Scorpion?

- Scorpion's death at the hands of Bi-Han?
Done.
It was explored in MK1, MK9, MKX and in Mythologies: Sub-Zero.

- Sub-Zero working for Quan Chi?
Done.
Also explored in Mythologies: Sub-Zero

- Scorpion seeking vengeance on Sub-Zero for the false accusation of Sub-Zero killing his family and clan?
Done.
MK1, MKII, MK3, MK4, MK9 and MKX covered all of that.

- Scorpion forgiving Sub-Zero and working together to take down Quan Chi?
Done.
MKX covered that.

These's nothing left to tell from the vendetta between those 2, and for once, that's actually a good thing.
After MKX, I'd rather have any other 2 characters aside from those 2 getting an action-adventure game.
 
Commander said:
Why take 2 steps back, though, when that vendetta was settled in MKX?
Makes no sense, imo.
Shinnok is just a severed head and Quan Chi is dead in MKX.
Their source of "revenge" is dead, and there's no reason for it.

Had Quan Chi still lived in MKX and none of the stuff between Sub-Zero and Scorpion happened in the last game, then I could see the point of chasing him down and having the 2 get together to form an uneasy alliance to take him down in a side-story game.
Once again, though, most of the key characters that would make a Scorpion and Sub-Zero game interesting are either dead or out of the picture (Shang Tsung, Sektor, Smoke, Quan Chi, Shinnok, The Lin Kuei Grandmaster) and Cyrax is AWOL.

Shaolin Monks made sense because it took place between MKII and MK3, and that story between Liu Kang and Kung Lao during that era had not been explored.


What is there left to explore between Sub-Zero and Scorpion?

- Scorpion's death at the hands of Bi-Han?
Done.
It was explored in MK1, MK9, MKX and in Mythologies: Sub-Zero.

- Sub-Zero working for Quan Chi?
Done.
Also explored in Mythologies: Sub-Zero

- Scorpion seeking vengeance on Sub-Zero for the false accusation of Sub-Zero killing his family and clan?
Done.
MK1, MKII, MK3, MK4, MK9 and MKX covered all of that.

- Scorpion forgiving Sub-Zero and working together to take down Quan Chi?
Done.
MKX covered that.

These's nothing left to tell from the vendetta between those 2, and for once, that's actually a good thing.
After MKX, I'd rather have any other 2 characters aside from those 2 getting an action-adventure game.
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MKSM and MK vs DCU weren't canon, so why suggest Fire & Ice would be?

And besides, how is it taking 2 steps back to make an action/adventure with the two primary stars being the focal point of the game? You ARE aware that Fire & Ice is a guaranteed high seller because of Sub-Zero and Scorpion alone.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
MKSM and MK vs DCU weren't canon, so why suggest Fire & Ice would be?

And besides, how is it taking 2 steps back to make an action/adventure with the two primary stars being the focal point of the game? You ARE aware that Fire & Ice is a guaranteed high seller because of Sub-Zero and Scorpion alone.
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So, you really want another non-canon train-wreck like Shaolin Monks in yet another action adventure game?
Gameplay-wise, Shaolin Monks was good game.
Don't get me wrong.
It was fun and entertaining, but story-wise...it was a trainwreck.

I am aware of that those 2 are the primary stars, as I've been following the MK franchise since 1992.
In a game where story mode is the main focus of the game (an action-adventure game), I don't want it to be riddled with plot-holes everywhere.
I'm sorry but I, for once, want to have an adventure game that actually explores more of what happened to certain characters and explores more of the canon, rather than have a non-canon game in which the story doesn't matter.

What's wrong with asking for an adventure game where we find out what happened to Shang Tsung, Noob Saibot, Cyrax and some of the other MK1 thru MK3 and post-MK3 characters that didn't make it to MKX?
Why not have an action adventure game explaining what happened to some of them, since NRS did a shit job of explaining what happened to them in MKX?
 
Commander said:
What's wrong with asking for an adventure game where we find out what happened to Shang Tsung, Noob Saibot, Cyrax and some of the other MK1 thru MK3 and post-MK3 characters that didn't make it to MKX?
Why not have an action adventure game explaining what happened to some of them, since NRS did a shit job of explaining what happened to them in MKX?
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Because the vast majority of the world does not care. Of the millions of people who play MK, people who care about the storyline are an infinitesimal fraction. Most of us are probably posting here on this very forum!

It would be financially foolish for NRS to make anything other than a game with the most potential mass appeal. I think Batman is one of the most tired, overdone characters in the DC stable, but WB is going to keep making those Arkham games for as long as they make money. This is a business.
 
Imperatrix Sindel said:
Because the vast majority of the world does not care. Of the millions of people who play MK, people who care about the storyline are an infinitesimal fraction. Most of us are probably posting here on this very forum!

It would be financially foolish for NRS to make anything other than a game with the most potential mass appeal. I think Batman is one of the most tired, overdone characters in the DC stable, but WB is going to keep making those Arkham games for as long as they make money. This is a business.
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That's what an adventure game is, though.
I'm a huge MK fighting game fan and it takes precedent for me over and action-adventure game, but Shaolin Monks wasn't a fighting game, though.
It was an action-adventure game.
People who buy an action-adventure game sure DO care about story.

Agreed, but IF they are going to make an action-adventure game, I'd rather them explore stuff that was skipped out of in MKX.
This whole thread is about the possibility of an action-adventure game and what we'd want to see if 1 was made, no?
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Given that both NRS has the funding now and that Kuai Liang and Hanzo Hasashi have made peace, how would you feel about NRS reigniting the proposed Fire and Ice game?
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Honestly I'd think an adventure game based on the Outworld Civil War would be good, considering we've only seen bits and pieces and playing through it would be fun. But the comics are focusing on it so I guess there's no point in that
 
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Well since it is a reboot, they can do whatever they want to. Creating content is all they need to do, but no bullcrap like the last devil may cry please where they f*** up the franchise.
 
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