Characters' different body shapes...

[Commander]

We should slow our roll on that. The jury's still out. Kitana is STILL skimpy despite the improvements. It does look much much better though. Oddly enough, if the comic is any indication as to how Mileena will look, she'll look more like a warrior too. Armored up similarly to Reiko and Shao Kahn.

Not at all.
MK9 Kitana is dressed like an easy streetwalker compared to MKX Kitana.
Likewise for Mileena.
The MKX costumes for the females are a complete 180 from the garbage costumes that were in MK9.
Even MKX Sonya in the comics looks more like a soldier, and not scantily clad.

 

[Immortal Reaver]

i love the variety in shape.
Does anyone else think that kotal kahn should be taller. he should tower over all the normal size men, looking menacing and intimidating. instead he's the same size as Kano. perhaps Torr being the exception. he should be the largest i guess

He does.

 

[GloriousDK]

Not at all.
MK9 Kitana is dressed like an easy streetwalker compared to MKX Kitana.
Likewise for Mileena.
The MKX costumes for the females are a complete 180 from the garbage costumes that were in MK9.
Even MKX Sonya in the comics looks more like a soldier, and not scantily clad.

I agree with you. I think Kitana is still needlessly skimpy, but her design is still leagues better than what MK9 had going on. I'm just saying that it may not be the entire case that NRS has completely done away with the stripper aesthetic. We wont know till release I'm guessing. Cassie and Sonya are evidence that they may have, but I wouldn't count Kitana with them.

 

[Temptress]

She dresses like a slut
She talks like a slut
She touches her body like a slut
And most of all, she associates with men like a slut (Baraka, Reptile, Reiko, Goro...need I say more?)

The evidence is right there staring in your face that she's a slut, and has been for the last 11 years, yet you have the audacity to deny it? I made it perfectly clear in a few posts above you that if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, then it's a damn duck.

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Associating with men makes you a slut? You continue to amaze me with your stupidity. One can talk as if they're intelligent, dress as if they're intelligent, act as if they're intelligent and associate with intelligent people, but that doesn't make you intelligent. Same goes with your stupid theory that acting like a slut makes you one. I know plenty of girls who act slutty and flirtatious and even dress in revealing clothing but have either had sex with one person in their life or none at all. You have not a single ounce of proof that Mileena is having sex with anyone, so you really need to just stop talking, however hard it may be.

 

[GloriousDK]

Yeah, I can't really get on board with Tarkatan Trash on this one and I don't particularly care for the old stripper designs of MK9. I like that they're making efforts to better represent the women in the game, but certainly not for the reasons Tarkatan_Trash is talking about. It's not about slut shaming. My god... it's 2015. SURELY now you'd think it'd be okay for women to have multiple partners, be able to dress in ways they feel makes them look a certain way in an environment that is safe for them to do so, but then TT is slut shaming like it's the 1920s or something. I could totally believe that Mileena might be much more sexually liberal, but it's really a crying shame that her sexuality is so inherent in her character to begin with. That Mileena is defined by who she sleeps with, how many, and that she somehow weaponizes sex. I may want the women to not be designed to look like strippers, but I can admit that if it's important to a character that moves the story, then certain characteristics COULD be important such as Mileena's sexuality. So she's romancing Reiko. How is that any different than us finding out that Liu Kang and Kitana are straight because they had a brief flirty moment in MK9?

 

[Lord Greyjoy]

Yeah, I can't really get on board with Tarkatan Trash on this one and I don't particularly care for the old stripper designs of MK9. I like that they're making efforts to better represent the women in the game, but certainly not for the reasons Tarkatan_Trash is talking about. It's not about slut shaming. My god... it's 2015. SURELY now you'd think it'd be okay for women to have multiple partners, be able to dress in ways they feel makes them look a certain way in an environment that is safe for them to do so, but then TT is slut shaming like it's the 1920s or something.

Tarkatan Trash is pretty much stuck in the '90s.

 

[FlawlessVictor]

I agree with you. I think Kitana is still needlessly skimpy, but her design is still leagues better than what MK9 had going on. I'm just saying that it may not be the entire case that NRS has completely done away with the stripper aesthetic. We wont know till release I'm guessing. Cassie and Sonya are evidence that they may have, but I wouldn't count Kitana with them.

I don't understand why do the character designs have to go to either extremes. Why can't there be both?

 

[ujustgotcaged]

Great post and great point

You guys are talking about females needing to not look like sluts and not have huge tits but hardly anyone complains about the fact that the men will be unreasonably buff...



"I AM the flashing lights and special effects."

 

[Lord Greyjoy]

The men aren't being sexualized... and aren't unreasonably buff for world-class killers or alien warlords.

 

[p.W]

You guys are talking about females needing to not look like sluts and not have huge tits but hardly anyone complains about the fact that the men will be unreasonably buff...[/color]

Unreasonably buff fighters... in a Deathmatch MMA competition? That sounds like a contradiction in terms.

If DD breasts with fully exposed cleavage have been demonstrated to grant an advantage in fighting competitions, I certainly haven't heard of it.

 

[ujustgotcaged]

Unreasonably buff fighters... in a Deathmatch MMA competition? That sounds like a contradiction in terms.

If DD breasts with fully exposed cleavage have been demonstrated to grant an advantage in fighting competitions, I certainly haven't heard of it.

Straw man argument ...I used the wrong word "unreasonably" and you went in for the kill to try and dismiss my post ..I should have said "excessively buff characters . "

Basicly what I'm saying is people are complaining that women don't need to look like sluts and they don't need huge tits..Fine.

Well men can still have muscles without looking like hulk hogan,lex Luger or Triple H.

So far we have seen some different body types among men..hopefully most of the males don't have body builder bodies...if you don't understand that then....oh well..call it what you want .




"I AM the flashing lights and special effects."

 

[FlawlessVictor]

The physiques for the men, more specifically Sub-Zero and Scorpion have been somewhat toned down from their MK9 depiction.

Still, I think Spiro Anagnostakos' statement is full of crap.

 

[theincubuslord]

Ermac and Quan Chi have already shown that some of the male characters won't be uber buff. Because their fighting styles rely alot on their magical powers, they don't need to be buff, and I think their MKX appearances reflect that quite well.

 

[p.W]

Straw man argument ...I used the wrong word "unreasonably" and you went in for the kill to try and dismiss my post ..I should have said "excessively buff characters . "

Basicly what I'm saying is people are complaining that women don't need to look like sluts and they don't need huge tits..Fine.

Well men can still have muscles without looking like hulk hogan,lex Luger or Triple H.

So far we have seen some different body types among men..hopefully most of the males don't have body builder bodies...if you don't understand that then....oh well..call it what you want .

First of all, I agree with @Flawless Victor and [MENTION=18014]theincubuslord[/MENTION] that the males have been vastly toned down compared to previous MK games, and even compared to other fighters, like SF.

Second, even if they weren't toned down... even if they all looked like Conan the Barbarian... at the end of the day, it's a sensible exaggeration. The premise of the game is "everyone will be fit to participate in the tournament." Huge muscles might be unrealistic, but they're an efficient way of getting across to the player just how serious a threat this particular combatant is.

Having huge boobs and showing them off at every opportunity has nothing to do with the game's premise, and doesn't make a female character look like a serious threat. In fact, it makes her look ditzy and silly. Same goes for wearing high heels into battle.

If the franchise was called Beauty Kontest, your position would be a lot more defensible.

 

[theincubuslord]

Sex appeal is alot more about representation of the character than a reflection of them being fighters though.
A female character dressing less than appropriate, showing skin, wearing high heels and having large boobs - none of this has to do with them being fighters. It has to do with them being women. By exaggerating their feminine features, they represent their gender more than anything else, and there are two reasons for that - to look pleasing for the straight male audience which covers the majority of the fighting game community, and to make women appear as beings of strength, independence and femininity to appease the female audience.

From my experience, and from the words of my female friends who are gamers, alot of women want to see themselves be represented in a game as the "normal" type of female character, but they usually go for the hot, sexualized female characters to play as.

As an example: in World of Warcraft, the most played races are the Humans, the Night Elves and the Blood Elves. And most of the female players choose to be one of the elven races. Why? Because of the aesthetics. They are beautiful and sexy creatures. Simple as that. If that wasn't the case, alot more people would play as Orcs, Trolls, Worgen and Dwarves, right?

Fact is... and it's a cliché, I know... but sex sells. And it sells because that is what the majority likes. Both male and female audience. And personally, I think that's alright, as long it is done tastefully. Having all the female characters look like pornstars is NOT tasteful! But that one or two of them lean more to that side, such as Mileena, while others have more respectable designs, such as Cassie, is a nice way to please as many as possible, so people who like either type have something to choose from.

The same goes for the male characters. Some like the more skinny types of characters who are dressed in robes, such as Ermac, while others like the bare-chested buff characters, such as Reiko. And it's cool that we have that to choose from, instead of having ALL characters just be ONE type of character.

Diversity and variation is the spice of life, after all.

 

[Rumble21]

I was hoping quan chi would be a little more buff. I understand he uses magic and wouldn't be necessary but looks like he has been toned down a lot.

 

[Kitty_55]

I like Quan Chi not being buff. I don't think he should be, especially since he's more of a magic fighter. And I'm not saying that all magic fighters shouldn't be buff. The kind of character that he is, I never really got the impression that he should be extremely buff. They kinda did for Deadly Alliance. But I like that he's not buff.

Not every male needs to do the Chris Redfield P90X-Insanity workout. Going from skinny mini to WHOA.

Females... They've been talked about too much. I'll just strictly talk bout the males.

 

[Tarkatan Trash]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again.

When Liu Kang looks as ripped as Arnold Schwarzenegger and Hulk Hogan, you KNOW you have a steroid problem.

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[Tanya4eva]

He does.

wow - then Kano must be bigger in MKX.
THX

 

[ujustgotcaged]

First of all, I agree with @Flawless Victor and [MENTION=18014]theincubuslord[/MENTION]

Having huge boobs and showing them off at every opportunity has nothing to do with the game's premise, and doesn't make a female character look like a serious threat. In fact, it makes her look ditzy and silly. Same goes for wearing high heels into battle.

If the franchise was called Beauty Kontest, your position would be a lot more defensible.

It's like you're saying that its okay to sexualize men and over exaggerate their bodies in a fantasy world but it's not okay to do the same for a female . I see your stance and I think it's a double standard.

Muscles and shirt off on a male=him beinf masculine so it's okay.

C or D cups on a female with breast physics =ditzy and silly.


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