Another rant from The_Pathfinder regarding MKX (ignore me, I may offend you)

People should be ready for something new by now. they gave us updates of all of our beloved old school characters in mk9. Then killed them, well most of them. Now, let them suffer in hell for a few games and give these new characters some time to shine. This isn't the 3D era anymore what they did with Skarlet, Kratos, and Freddy which both were basically new characters that they had to create entirely new move sets for in mk9 should give you faith for what NRS can do with new characters in MKX.
 
I for one like the new mk's approach. not too happy with sub-zero's fighting style. looks like he kicks you knee then gives you a deadly tickle in one of his combo strings, but aside from that it looks good and i like it.

I dont know how you got a thread for this. it was pointless. should have just posted it in the discussion thread. pffft attention whore
 
Why do people make such a big deal if the dead MK9 characters don't come back? There's a chance that they will come back to life at the end of MKX and they will return in MK11. When MKDA killed off most of the heroes like Liu Kang, Johnny Cage, Sonya and Jax, no one cared about it in MKD. I know NRS said that there will be returning favorites but they could be talking about the MK9 characters that didn't die in MK9 or the fan favorites from MK4-MKD.
 
I'm sorry, but I've still got a sour taste in my mouth after MKDA and MKD- remember Tsu Hao? Drahmin? Moloch? Kobra? Mavado? Dairou? I certainly do and I remember their utter lack of character development and cookie cutter movesets. Looking back, I feel that if they removed THAT "New Generation" the stories for Deadly Alliance and Deception would've been wwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy better....Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming the Drahmins, Nitaras, and Dariuses of the series, I blame Boon and Vogel for that era and those 2 (most unfortunately Vogel) are still working on the series.

Prior to the current regime, Tobias was responsible for 90% of MK's story content, but now that John Vogel is gone, an ex-carpenter and a full-blown businessman are in charge of the storyline and the NEWEST "New Blood" seems either too outlandish (Dvorah, Ferra/Torr) or too cut and paste (Cassie Cage) even for Mortal Kombat. Granted we've had Kabal, Mileena, etc. in the past, those were outlandish characters but they worked within the confines of the series, they're uniqueness was subtle and not overblown, just enough to give them individual characteristics.

I mean look at Kotal Kahn, D'vorah and Ferra/Torr, then look at Scorpion, Sub Zero and Raiden, if you didn't know the former 3 even existed, would you even consider that the 2 sets of characters are a part of the same franchise? NRS is clearly going for outlandish, gaudy, and far-fetched in an attempt to look "unique and original".

The original set of characters were inspired by martial arts films, wuxia (martial arts fantasy stories) and oriental mythology (including India and it's numerous folk heroes and unique weapons). The fantasy cinema and folklores of south east-Asia are numerous and, outside of all the Bruce Lee knockoffs of the 1970s, they all had very unique qualities and their characters and mythos always stood out in subtlety, why can't NRS seek inspiration from that subset of fantasy entertainment? Again, I'm sorry if I made any of you made, hate me if you want, but there's no denying that D'vorah looks like something that Troma would've puked up.

Again, I'm going to make many of you NRS fanboys upset and I enjoy doing so. I've managed to see past my own fandom for the series and it's clear as day that the end of MK is fast approaching.
 
Let's talk about Mortal Kombat dying after MKX blows fighting game sales out of the water like we all know it will.
 
I actually understand what you mean. Would you believe me if I said that I have a dream that Ferra/Torr and D'Vorah would be in the game around the time that MK9:KE came out (which was around 2012)? Well not them name, gameplay, and story wise, but their exact appearances (atleast their costumes and genders). After that dream, I was convinced that they would fit a Mortal Kombat style. I always thought that the roster would have only two new characters with the rest being returns from MK9-MKA. When the E3 Trailer arrived and I seen that my dream actually came true (which actually shock the heck out of me), but I became skeptical of D'Vorah's gameplay for some reason. The first thing I though of was "They could have dressed her up as Bubblebee from Teen Titans and just put her in Injustice." She really looked like a DC character rather than an MK Character. But after some time, I grew to liking her as well as all of the new characters revealed so far.

One thing I can say though is that I'm very skeptical about the new characters that were shown to be in the comic that's coming in January (namely Forest Fox and the Red Dragon guy). They look like a bland version of Kai and a Red Dragon member who has an obsession with Nightwing. Who knows though, they might end up being cool characters. The only reason I have other fears for the rest of the unrevealed new guys/girls is because Boon said he would show his favorites at E3, which imo seemed like he was saying the others only have an Average hype interest (presumably why they haven't been revealing any of the new characters yet).
 
While I'm not that crazy about the new characters like some people are, I like them more than most of the post- MK3 characters of the past.
 
its sad to say, but i actually agree with this rant. the new characters so far are very uninspiring, the designs are bland and weve not seen any interesting move sets or combos from any of them. its sad because the thing im looking forward to most is learning new characters but rather than just creating badass looking characters with good moves the developers seem more obsessed with adding silly gimicks like Kotals totems, i dont care what anybody says that whole video explaining those totems was a total clusterfvck and ferra torr that whole character is a gimmick in its self.

its like their view point is that the only way forward to step it up is to come up with as many untraditional ways to take health then mould the characters around that. i feel like every new character is going to have some different unique way of taking or giving damage just to be different for the sake of being different when its really not necessary

all i want to see is a new character without the ridiculous gameplay mechanics :/

also i dont see why they dont just have the original MK9 roster all there then just add like another 10-12 characters. its Next Gen i expect a huge roster. i dont give a fvck about story mode or who died nobody truly dies in MK anyway
 
Guyver Spawn said:
Why do people make such a big deal if the dead MK9 characters don't come back? There's a chance that they will come back to life at the end of MKX and they will return in MK11. When MKDA killed off most of the heroes like Liu Kang, Johnny Cage, Sonya and Jax, no one cared about it in MKD. I know NRS said that there will be returning favorites but they could be talking about the MK9 characters that didn't die in MK9 or the fan favorites from MK4-MKD.
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Agreed.
I'd rather have the new characters shine on the main roster.
If 1 or 2 dead come back as DLC or the dead don't come back in MKX, I don't see what the big issue is.
There's always MK11, and we all know that MK characters don't stay dead forever.
If someone refuses to buy a game because 1 character isn't in, then I really wonder if they're really an "MK fan" or just a fan of ____________ character.


FlawlessVictor said:
While I'm not that crazy about the new characters like some people are, I like them more than most of the post- MK3 characters of the past.
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I love 3 out of the 4 new MKX characters, thus far, but I agree 100% with your 2nd part.
I'll take Ferra / Torr, Kotal Kahn, D'Vorah and Cassie Cage any day over the other 24 of the 30 characters from the MK4 thru MK:A era.
 
Commander said:
I'd rather have the new characters shine on the main roster.
If 1 or 2 dead come back as DLC or the dead don't come back in MKX, I don't see what the big issue is.
There's always MK11, and we all know that MK characters don't stay dead forever.
If someone refuses to buy a game because 1 character isn't in, then I really wonder if they're really an "MK fan" or just a fan of ____________ character.
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Exactly, I can't imagine only liking 1 character and if "said character" isn't in the game then I won't buy it... but strangely there are people out there like this, if that's how I felt I would've stopped playing MK after MKT.
If you only like 1 or 2 characters then you really shouldn't be too emotionally invested in the series.
I have no idea if has anything to do with today's generation have such a twisted strong sense of entitlement but it's just mind boggling.

I think most people forget that they can play their fave's in MK9 if they don't make it in MKX.
Why would you want a game to have the exact same roster every time?
Don't people play previous game titles anymore?

When I bought MK4 I would always go back and play MKT because it felt great playing as a variety of different characters with different stories, it never felt limited. And I would do the same with Deadly Alliance and Deception when they came out, I would go play MK4 and MKT.


Commander said:
I'll take Ferra / Torr, Kotal Kahn, D'Vorah and Cassie Cage any day over the other 24 of the 30 characters from the MK4 thru MK:A era.
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This!
Even though I personally believe that the only character that was a let down who made their debut in MK4 was Jarek, the rest were pretty solid.
(sorry if anyone felt this was a bit long winded)
 
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So bland! So generic! They're clearly ripoffs of... um... wait...
 
Reptil3 said:
I think most people forget that they can play their fave's in MK9 if they don't make it in MKX.
Why would you want a game to have the exact same roster every time?
Don't people play previous game titles anymore?

When I bought MK4 I would always go back and play MKT because it felt great playing as a variety of different characters with different stories, it never felt limited. And I would do the same with Deadly Alliance and Deception when they came out, I would go play MK4 and MKT.
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Agreed.
I want to see some new blood.
If I kept being close-minded in 1993 about new characters being in MK games and some of the Original 7 characters missing, I would have never bought MKII (which was missing Kano and Sonya) or MK3 (which was missing Scorpion, Raiden and Johnny Cage).

I buy MK games with the hopes that the story will move on and that some of these new characters will grab my attention.
Unfortunately for the 3D era, I only liked about 6 or 7 out of the 30 new characters, but so far in MKX I like 3 of them in 1 game (out of a possible 11+, in which 7+ of the new characters haven't even been shown yet).

Reptil3 said:
This!
Even though I personally believe that the only character that was a let down who made their debut in MK4 was Jarek, the rest were pretty solid.
(sorry if anyone felt this was a bit long winded)
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No need to apologize for explaining your thoughts. ;)
The solid characters, for me, out of that era were (by order of appearance):
- Quan Chi
- Fujin
- Reiko
- Tanya
- Kenshi
- maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe Nitara, although her Gargoyle wings and high-heels bugged the ever-loving crap out of me, design-wise.
- Havik
 
I am always up for getting new blood to the series with each title in the series. However, it should not mean that those already introduced should be left behind. It's a tough one, since there are 60+ characters that's appeared on the main roster throughout the series, and each and every one of them simply cannot appear in every single game.

So yes, that means some of our favourites won't appear in every game. It means some of them won't appear in MKX. And that's just how it is. A sensible person would accept that and move on.

I have several favourites amongst the MK characters, Jade being the #1. She's had 5 playable appearances in the many games of Mortal Kombat, those being UMK3, MKT, MKD, MKA and MK9. She's not one of the more popular characters, in fact, I remember clearly back when she was announced for MKD, the majority of the community thought she was a waste of space and would rather have Kitana instead. In MK9 she was welcomed alot more though. However, she will most likely not appear in MKX, and I am completely fine with that. As said, I have other faves, and I just hope one of them will appear in the game.

Should NONE of them appear, well, then there will be room for another new favourite character. That's how I got all these faves, because of games that lacked the faves I already had. So I welcome the new additions, because that means I can expand my gallery of favourite MK characters.

All this said though... I don't want the entire roster to be replaced with all new characters, and still be a game of the main series. Arc System Works did the RIGHT thing when creating BlazBlue, still keeping the gameplay (with some changes and adds here and there) from Guilty Gear, but made it its own game with an entirely new roster. Capcom did the WRONG thing in Street Fighter 3, as a continuation of the main series, but literally replaced the roster in its entirity, except for Ryu and Ken. They could just as well have made a completely new franchise not part of the main series.

Netherrealm Studios are doing neither of these things though. So far, NRS are doing as they have ALWAYS done, keeping some of the old characters and adding some new faces to the franchise. I think that's a good balanced way of doing things and I wouldn't want them to do it any other way.

If your favourites aren't making it to the main roster, then it is time for you to expand your mind and find a new favourite character. MKX is not all just about the roster, though still an important part. However, people tend to focus on their favourite character being in the game, and if he/she isn't, then they judge the entire game as bad, as if that one character would be the main factor as to if the game would become a success... it isn't. A good game is a good game with or without certain characters, as is a bad game a bad game. All the other factors that make a fighting game can't simply be ignored just because of one character. And if you do so, then it isn't the game, but your way of thinking that's the issue.
 
Ed did say more than any previous game, so it's fine to assume 11+ new, with another possible 12 being returning / post-MK3.

Then there's also DLC, which people always forget about.
Favorites can come back as DLC, even though they have no part in the story (as was the case for Rain in MK9).
Given that Freddy sold the most and Kenshi being right behind, it wouldn't surprise me if we got 1 universal guest DLC and another 3 to 5 DLC characters being some of those other MK9 / post-MK3 characters that didn't make the main roster cut.
 
Commander said:
- maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe Nitara, although her Gargoyle wings and high-heels bugged the ever-loving crap out of me, design-wise.
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That's one of the great things about D'vorah. She has wings, but they're retractable.
And even though she does have high heels, they don't bother me for some reason.

She just works.
 
Kickinwing420 said:
That's one of the great things about D'vorah. She has wings, but they're retractable.
And even though she does have high heels, they don't bother me for some reason.

She just works.
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D'Vorah's high heels are also her ACTUAL heels! No shoes! :O
MINDBLOWING FACTS!!!

Well, not really, I just think it's cool. :P
I loved Nitara though, high heels and wings and all. ^^
 
Kickinwing420 said:
That's one of the great things about D'vorah. She has wings, but they're retractable.
And even though she does have high heels, they don't bother me for some reason.
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I liked her vampire gimmick and special moves, but yeah, I didn't care for her costume and appearance.
With Skarlet being the "blood" character, though, I don't see her making it in.
That, and she isn't as popular as some of the other characters from the 3D (MK4 thru MK: A) era.
 
I laugh when people have a problem seeing new characters in this franchise.

You do realize that every Mortal Kombat game has always introduced new characters, right? What makes this game so different? Because the characters don't look like they fit in? You've got to be kidding me, right? A game that has dragons, sorcerers, warlords, mutants wondering around... a bug woman and a giant brute with a little one riding him doesn't fit in? Oooookay. I don't see how they don't fit, but to those who do, how? Explain to me exactly how they don't fit in after me listing a few types of creatures/characters that are already in this franchise. If you can't, then what's the problem? I can understand the whole, "They haven't impressed me yet," I mean Cassie still hasn't done anything that wants me to play as her immediately, but you don't see me sitting here saying that she doesn't fit.

I've been dying for some change and by golly gee wiz it's finally here. If you can't appreciate it, then go back to the older games. I'll be sitting in my room playing Mortal Kombat X and enjoying myself without thinking these new characters will destroy the franchise or something. It's a shame that some can't appreciate new stuff here and there. I don't want to play the same old game over and over again. If I wanted to, I'll put in Call of Duty, I only play that game just to shoot people, not to judge what's in it. (Although the jump boast is fun)

They've certainly gotten their priorities straightened out with the direction they are taking this game. They're not going to kill the series with X. You're jumping to conclusions when we still have four months of nail biting to do. Calm down and eat some roasted marshmallows or something. We still don't even have half of the information about this game released to us.
 
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