Mortal Kombat 11 General Discussion Media Thread

[Yellow Ledbetter]

I like Kano, Kabal, Liu Kang, Kung lao and such humans with special features, the humans that can skip a game are mostly Sonya Blade, Stryker and Jax, though Stryker is already very good at skipping games. The humans from the 3D area were even worse (Jarek for example) and the Kombat Kids of course.

Of course I would take some humans in there, but not like in MKX, that was such a terrible roster with only good-guys and special forces family crap, I pity the people that actually enjoyed that roster, ugh.

Sonya and Jax are also humans with special features. Jarek was a bad designed character, but what about Kenshi? Hotaru? You know, all of the humans are bad? I think you just don't like SF, probably because of MKX, that I agree they went too far by reducing villains, and only one of them was actually a strong villain. But that was part of the plan, I don't think they will repeat the formula this time.

According to the steam pre-order page: 8)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/976310/Mortal_Kombat11/

The Mortal Kombat 11 Premium Edition includes:
• Main Game
• Kombat Pack

The Kombat Pack includes:
• 6 new DLC playable characters
• 1 week early access to DLC characters
• 7 Skins
• 7 sets of gear

Thanks! Well...I'll consider then. If I do buy, I hope guests are not BS like Leatherface, plz.

You're funny.

They haven't taken any of our feedback (aside gameplay data) since forever. I remember some people going as far as claiming that the only reason why MK lost sexy aspect, was because of negative feedback from MK9. That is a complete bullshit. MK9 was the last game before the SJW era began.

If they decide to take their roots out, they will do it and they won't care what I, or Tarkatan or anyone else have to say. And not because NRS would want to do that, but because their masters at WB say so.

Guest characters will come regardless if we want or not. Not just to get extra cash, but they also use them to market the movies, etc (I think at this point everyone knows that).

While I would be kiiindaish (and even then big MAYBE) ok with Spawn being in the game, I think I will take Tarkatan's Trash side and say f%ck all these movie guest chars.

The only guest chars, I would be ok with, would be if it was a char from another fighting game. Like Killer Instinct... or... sigh I know it won't happen, but I can dream. Street Fighter as well. That's the only guest chars I approve. Cause they would come from the same genre. Same home field. That would be like a neighbor visiting your place. That's fine in my books.

Funny why? Should I take as a compliment? lol

I disagree. MK9 took things to a ridiculous point, and remember that MK9 sides era with Injustice, where characters were non proportional, stone muscles, giraffe necks, high heels (that's for you hahaha), and more. MK9 was more of a fantasy approach, I'm ok with that, but I don't see MKX as "SJW", first because lots of things considered SJW are not, and second because MKX they finally decided to give proportions unique and female characters not being strippers. Nothing against strippers or real life fappers, but I prefer something looking more logic, even if it is in a game where a semi naked almost 3 meter tall samurai dude with horns and an amazing voice spitting green suff exists.

I know they don't listen to us, but they listen to the community as a whole, even WB (indirectly), because these are the people that buy the game. So despite nobody at WB is "hmmmm, let's see who is asking for Rain today", they do see characters and turns that might be popular. Proof? Let Wb take out Raiden, Sub-Zero and Scorpion out of the game. I bet you is riot.

I would be ok with Spawn in the game, but as you are, I'm totally TT's side and *&%$ guest chars for real. They are taking out places of original characters, and I prefer Mokap over Alien anyday.

Here we go in respectful disagreement again: would never want a Street Fighter char for MK. SF is great, classical game, broke many barriers, (now I'm going full TT despite the fact he may disagree with what I'm gonna say next), but what does Street Fighter offers of difference nowadays? 30 years and a "story mode" like last game. It's aaaaaaaaalways the same. Besides, too childish (not saying it's for kids, just it's too soft for MK). A character like Spawn is totally better than Ryu. Still, both should sit there and watch as Meat moonwalks into the stage.

 

[Xenon]

To be honest I think they should just finally for once give humans the means of entending their own lifespan. Bloody hell, we in real world it seems made more advancements in that area than most of the sci fi, fantasy stories.

??????? I don't recall us being transhumans.

 

[Commander]

Thanks! Well...I'll consider then. If I do buy, I hope guests are not BS like Leatherface, plz.

Personally, I've pre-ordered the regular version and I'll buy the individual MK DLC characters later.
Yeah, I'll have to wait an extra week for the characters to drop, but if it's anything like MKX and Injustice 2 were they have Towers / MV events where you can try out the DLC character beforehand, then I won't really miss much by waiting an extra week, especially if 1 of those MK DLC characters ends up being my main.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

Personally, I've pre-ordered the regular version and I'll buy the individual MK DLC characters later.
Yeah, I'll have to wait an extra week for the characters to drop, but if it's anything like MKX and Injustice 2 were they have Towers / MV events where you can try out the DLC character beforehand, then I won't really miss much by waiting an extra week, especially if 1 of those MK DLC characters ends up being my main.

Yup, I do agree, did the same with MKX. I was looking forward the skins mostly, and MK characters.

But tbh, while I'll consider, I'll probably buy regular too, I don't have any DLC character in MKX (except Goro).

 

[Xenon]

I disagree. MK9 took things to a ridiculous point, and remember that MK9 sides era with Injustice, where characters were non proportional, stone muscles, giraffe necks, high heels (that's for you hahaha), and more. MK9 was more of a fantasy approach, I'm ok with that, but I don't see MKX as "SJW", first because lots of things considered SJW are not, and second because MKX they finally decided to give proportions unique and female characters not being strippers. Nothing against strippers or real life fappers, but I prefer something looking more logic, even if it is in a game where a semi naked almost 3 meter tall samurai dude with horns and an amazing voice spitting green suff exists.

You're kinda contradicting yourself here. "Stone muscles" and then mention that MKX is more "realistic". Every female in MKX looked like a stick, no curves or muscle of any kind. It's like they've never picked up a weight or did a squat in their life time. Meanwhile all of the guys were jacked beyond jacked, and in a lot of cases looked like Magic Mike strippers/romantic novel covers. If you take a look at MKX concepts, they were pretty much dead set on repeating MK9 again. But oops...SJWs started to yell. Tried to do it with I2, same result. That's only scratching the surface. Case in point, that's not realism, that's autism.

Also it's the MKX models that had giraffe necks, not MK9 :lol:

MKX WAS a result of SJWism. Here you go, MKX "review" from Eurogamer, "game journalists" who flat out came out from their closet and admitted to be SJWs. Notice how that review has barely anything to do with the game, and just shoves in politics down everyone's throats. Their score? 3 stars.

I've mentioned this before and these bogus reviewers ARE the reason why everyone is bending over. A lot of publishers/companies are using Metacritic to set targets / bonuses. Disconnect clowns like Polygon, who cannot even play Doom if their life depended on it, and you'll see much less censorship. Unfortunately it's not just the games that are being pressured by these sideline spectators, it's basically everything in the entertainment industry. I think we're all grown enough to decide what's good or bad, without having some CORPORATE SHMUCK and their lackeys telling us. :lol:

 

[p.W]

Pretty much this.
I've been wanting Fujin in an MK game since the rumors of MKvsDC started, but I'm also not going to go full-retard / Reiko douche if he doesn't make the roster.
I'd be a little disappointed, sure, but I also found other mains in MKX, despite not having my MK9 mains and thoroughly enjoyed X.

I didn't know that Reiko inspired such strong feelings from the community. I dunno why but I would have expected the loud fanclub to be for one of the female characters. Good thing I don't go on twitter I guess.

I'm the same way toward Reiko that you are to Fujin, I'm dying to see him in a new MK game, but if he's not in then he's not in. Simple as that.

All this toxicity is so annoying. People come in with all of their own expectations about what the game should be, based on nothing except wish fulfillment, and then are surprised/disappointed when that inevitably doesn't turn into reality. Meanwhile I'm just excited that there's a new MK game coming out and it looks amazing...

 

[Reptil3]

What are everyone's thought's on the soundtrack of the game so far? As far as stages go etc.

One thing I thought was incredibly lackluster in MKX was the games soundtrack though some may disagree and that's cool but.. as more MK games come out we are sort of losing those old MK vibes we used to get from the games due to the soundtrack evolving to what I feel is less authentic and just feels like super hero movie production music.

Who remembers how great MK3 slect screen music was? It made me feel like what I was about to commit to was of great importance and that something was in the balance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrRL8DozJ5Y
And MK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOSB5R2U62Y

And now here's MKX, which to me EVERYTHING pretty much sounds like this or a variation of... I just tune out and barely pay attention to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMdFj47cszM

I'd put the insert vid things but I don't want to clog this whole page with vids lol
Also like to add I'm not trying to be a turd, I love everything I've seen from MK11 so far.. still hoping to see guys like Fujin and Reiko get a chance though.

 

[Misucra]

??????? I don't recall us being transhumans.

Science, mate. Not us, but modern medicine. We already know what is causing the aging, there is no magical clock which tells us when we gonna die, like it was believed in the past. Hell there are already scientific articles written that push for classifying aging as a disease as it fits the criteria. Not to mention our lifespan is already extending as we speak. Some companies already pushing the idea that the old model of "get a job, work, retire" won't work in near future thanks to current advancements. It will be more like work, retire for a bit, pick another job, etc".
Also scientific breakthroughs in stemcells, muscle regeneration... don't wanna start talking science in MK thread, but my point is. If we already at this stage in irl, then I think devs can finally stop making humans look like corpses at 50.

[MENTION=18134]Yellow Ledbetter[/MENTION]

Funny why? Should I take as a compliment? lol

I was quoting Superman from animated Justice League movie. Don't take it seriously.

I disagree. MK9 took things to a ridiculous point, and remember that MK9 sides era with Injustice, where characters were non proportional, stone muscles, giraffe necks, high heels (that's for you hahaha), and more. MK9 was more of a fantasy approach, I'm ok with that, but I don't see MKX as "SJW", first because lots of things considered SJW are not, and second because MKX they finally decided to give proportions unique and female characters not being strippers. Nothing against strippers or real life fappers, but I prefer something looking more logic, even if it is in a game where a semi naked almost 3 meter tall samurai dude with horns and an amazing voice spitting green suff exists.

I was actually one of the guys giving tons of shit about MK9 females. They did go to extreme there and I remember asking NRS for a bit more sensible approach. But then they went to another extreme and made outfits completely boring.

Also proportional... mah man. Females in MKX look like they didn't eat for a month. MK9 at least gave them some muscle, even though it mapped pretty badly (but again the old engine). Females in MKX on other hand. No muscle. Not toned. Nothing.
Also Mileena has one of the strangest proportions. Her face looks good, but once you zoom out you start seeing that her head is too big for the body.

I know they don't listen to us, but they listen to the community as a whole, even WB (indirectly), because these are the people that buy the game. So despite nobody at WB is "hmmmm, let's see who is asking for Rain today", they do see characters and turns that might be popular. Proof? Let Wb take out Raiden, Sub-Zero and Scorpion out of the game. I bet you is riot.

Hahahaha... wait you're serious. Let me laugh even harder. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You know if you told me that before MKX, I would have believed you. But after being shat on for almost a year, getting no response, no apology from WB, and with current industry catering to minority of people who don't even buy their games, I don't believe that for one sec. WB is a corporation. You should see in what dreamland investors sit.

Companies like WB now only care about two things. Positive Reviews and good PR. Why do you think artists get censored? Xenon has videos posted here as well, showing how WB is embracing the community that doesn't even play their games, just so they would have a good feedback from SJW.

Proof? Let Wb take out Raiden, Sub-Zero and Scorpion out of the game. I bet you is riot.

Eeeehh. That's not a proof. That's an assumption. The thing needs to happen before it becomes a proof.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

You're kinda contradicting yourself here. "Stone muscles" and then mention that MKX is more "realistic". Every female in MKX looked like a stick, no curves or muscle of any kind. It's like they've never picked up a weight or did a squat in their life time. Meanwhile all of the guys were jacked beyond jacked, and in a lot of cases looked like Magic Mike strippers/romantic novel covers. If you take a look at MKX concepts, they were pretty much dead set on repeating MK9 again. But oops...SJWs started to yell. Tried to do it with I2, same result. That's only scratching the surface. Case in point, that's not realism, that's autism.

Also it's the MKX models that had giraffe necks, not MK9 :lol:

MKX WAS a result of SJWism. Here you go, MKX "review" from Eurogamer, "game journalists" who flat out came out from their closet and admitted to be SJWs. Notice how that review has barely anything to do with the game, and just shoves in politics down everyone's throats. Their score? 3 stars.

I've mentioned this before and these bogus reviewers ARE the reason why everyone is bending over. A lot of publishers/companies are using Metacritic to set targets / bonuses. Disconnect clowns like Polygon, who cannot even play Doom if their life depended on it, and you'll see much less censorship. Unfortunately it's not just the games that are being pressured by these sideline spectators, it's basically everything in the entertainment industry. I think we're all grown enough to decide what's good or bad, without having some CORPORATE SHMUCK and their lackeys telling us. :lol:

I never used the word realistic exactly because of that conotation. I said "proportional", in a meaning of more well designed, nice heights, non exaggerated muscles (for those who are not, I'm not talking about Goro, Shao Kahn, etc.), better faces, etc. I evade "realistic" because it's a game, so there's always that special someone that brings the fact about the dude that freezes.

I absolutely see muscles here, and IMO way better design than this:

Absolutely superior, even if her body is all covered up, cooler look, nice body suit and for pervs, bewbs showing off:

I don't see how this is superior...

...over this:

The difference I see is one looks like a porn actress, the other one, like a well designed character. I have never seen an argument pro MK9 designs that haven't touched into the sexual part. Every argument that disses MKX is always about boobs having movement, curves, so I always wonder if we are discussing game characters or real people. I mean, Kitana obviously has muscles as a woman would have. Mileena has a better face, a better story, better moves, so what's the difference? That she doesn't look like a porn actress. Well, I agree her tournament outfit is bad, should be like Kitana's and look closer to MK9, but in the bottom of it, it's always about showing off something, and I seriously feel no atraction by a character this way. Maybe a little more teenager, or seeing someone cosplay, but this? Not a chance.

Also, I always remember that I raged when I had to beat in my other account MK9 tower and after that 300 what I get? Mileena in toilet paper so fappers could wank until controllers were glued dry. So this is going far IMO.

When it comes to man, I think MK9 designs are horrible compared to MKX. Look at the muscles on Liu Kang

then I look Kotal Kahn

A real strong jacked dude I see is like Kotal Kahn.

I may disagree with all of these redesigns having to do with a game being good or not, specially because I'm a story first player, so that's what I care first, then gameplay, so I certainly wouldn't support any critics that take this over anything, still, many started considering MKX bad for the exact opposite. So once again I say, every MK9 defending argument always go for sexyness, something extremely subjective and should be total second plane (if not a third).

 

[BBBLP]

Some guest characters are better than native MK characters. Like if the Predator was an original MK character, do you really think anyone would ask for Bo Rai Cho over him?


I've been playing MK since I was 3 years old, I used to draw it on all my notebooks in school, would beg for every new game and I've spent thousands of dollars on the series between statues, games and comics. That being said I am way more excited to see Pennywise as a dlc character than I am to see Sareena, Frost, Li Mei, Sindel or any of those other bums people want. Just because someone likes guest characters doesn't make them any less of an MK fan.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

I was quoting Superman from animated Justice League movie. Don't take it seriously.

Lol, I remember that, now I got it.

I was actually one of the guys giving tons of shit about MK9 females. They did go to extreme there and I remember asking NRS for a bit more sensible approach. But then they went to another extreme and made outfits completely boring.

Now this is what I'm talking. Rarely someone goes and criticizes MKX by itself without appealing to sexyness. I kinda agree most are boring. Idk why I'm ok with MK11 Sonya's outfit, since it's MKX's one, I think I'm like "yeah yeah, general Blade"

Also proportional... mah man. Females in MKX look like they didn't eat for a month. MK9 at least gave them some muscle, even though it mapped pretty badly (but again the old engine). Females in MKX on other hand. No muscle. Not toned. Nothing.
Also Mileena has one of the strangest proportions. Her face looks good, but once you zoom out you start seeing that her head is too big for the body.

As I explained above (saw your response later), I used proportional to not use realistic. NRS has a huge problem with heads, necks and faces, specially with women. But I disagree with muscles sometimes,posted some renders, I can actually see what women look like.

Hahahaha... wait you're serious. Let me laugh even harder. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You know if you told me that before MKX, I would have believed you. But after being shat on for almost a year, getting no response, no apology from WB, and with current industry catering to minority of people who don't even buy their games, I don't believe that for one sec. WB is a corporation. You should see in what dreamland investors sit.

Companies like WB now only care about two things. Positive Reviews and good PR. Why do you think artists get censored? Xenon has videos posted here as well, showing how WB is embracing the community that doesn't even play their games, just so they would have a good feedback from SJW.

What I'm saying isn't totally a contradiction on what you say. I know WB doesn't give a &¨%$$, what I'm saying is that they will care for community repercussion not because they actually care, but they won't be putting characters that don't sell. When I say community, I'm unfortunately adding the dude that bought just to play with Alien and is asking Michael Myers without knowing a thing about MK (please nobody get offended here for we don't have nobody like this in this forum lol). It's WB's community, not MK.

But what do you mean when it comes of being shat? And what kind of apology you mean from WB?

Positive reviews and good PR are indirectly influenced by what I was saying. That's why I said "indirectly". Even if I surf in the "SJW" idea, it also sells. It's all about selling.

Eeeehh. That's not a proof. That's an assumption. The thing needs to happen before it becomes a proof.

MK3.

 

[Tarkatan Trash]

Some guest characters are better than native MK characters. Like if the Predator was an original MK character, do you really think anyone would ask for Bo Rai Cho over him?


I've been playing MK since I was 3 years old, I used to draw it on all my notebooks in school, would beg for every new game and I've spent thousands of dollars on the series between statues, games and comics. That being said I am way more excited to see Pennywise as a dlc character than I am to see Sareena, Frost, Li Mei, Sindel or any of those other bums people want. Just because someone likes guest characters doesn't make them any less of an MK fan.

Guest characters do make the MK games they appear in less of an MK game than the games released in the first 15 years of the franchise's history, because guest characters are inferior to native characters under every circumstance.

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[Yellow Ledbetter]

Some guest characters are better than native MK characters. Like if the Predator was an original MK character, do you really think anyone would ask for Bo Rai Cho over him?


I've been playing MK since I was 3 years old, I used to draw it on all my notebooks in school, would beg for every new game and I've spent thousands of dollars on the series between statues, games and comics. That being said I am way more excited to see Pennywise as a dlc character than I am to see Sareena, Frost, Li Mei, Sindel or any of those other bums people want. Just because someone likes guest characters doesn't make them any less of an MK fan.

Sincerely, I always see you talking this about "just because someone likes guest characters doesn't make them any less of an MK fan". At the least when it comes to my argument, I would never be talking about someone like you. Yeah, you do like guests, but I don't see a fan like you wanting MK to consume itself into something it isn't. But the majority of the guest wave isn't like that.

I respect that, while I do prefer Sareena, Frost, Li Mei, Sindel over Predator, but not because I would do if this was the first time a guest would enter, but because I know one more Predator is one less Sindel, so that's why I'm on the no guests flag. If they did a kombat pack with guests only, and three more KP with MK chars, even if it was Mokap, I would be happy.

Now, you have 4 spots: two are guests, on that I can't agree.

 

[Misucra]

Now this is what I'm talking. Rarely someone goes and criticizes MKX by itself without appealing to sexyness. I kinda agree most are boring. Idk why I'm ok with MK11 Sonya's outfit, since it's MKX's one, I think I'm like "yeah yeah, general Blade"

They can keep some sexiness if they want. But again it mustn't be like MK9. Freaking high heels, and heavy make up.

When I play story based games I try to immerse myself, but it is pretty hard to do that, then they try to sell you a "Major" that looks like one of those cheap cosplayers. The only one that made sense in MK9, was Mileena. Looking extremely sexy is her point. She is selling her body, cause face is nothing to look at (though MKX one does look good).

As I explained above (saw your response later), I used proportional to not use realistic. NRS has a huge problem with heads, necks and faces, specially with women. But I disagree with muscles sometimes,posted some renders, I can actually see what women look like.

I prefer females having some actual muscle on body.


Something along those lines.
Maybe even this much (depends on females)

But what do you mean when it comes of being shat? And what kind of apology you mean from WB?

I bought MKX for PC. Day 1.

MK3.

Fair Enough.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

They can keep some sexiness if they want. But again it mustn't be like MK9. Freaking high heels, and heavy make up.

I agree.

When I play story based games I try to immerse myself, but it is pretty hard to do that, then they try to sell you a "Major" that looks like one of those cheap cosplayers. The only one that made sense in MK9, was Mileena. Looking extremely sexy is her point. She is selling her body, cause face is nothing to look at (though MKX one does look good).

I think I would enjoy Mileena's outfit more if all the rest didn't look like porn. And maybe after the tower challenge. I still prefer her MK look.

I prefer females having some actual muscle on body.

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Something along those lines.
Maybe even this much (depends on females)
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Yeah, while I agree MKX's females are thin, I still think the muscles are ok, MK9 basically everybody is Sheeva.

For women, I think this is subjective too. You see, for males I think Kotal Kahn is absolutely perfect for someone who should be pretty strong, but not Shao Kahn style.

I bought MKX for PC. Day 1.

But what apology you mean?

Fair Enough.

:beer:

 

[Tarkatan Trash]

They can keep some sexiness if they want. But again it mustn't be like MK9. Freaking high heels, and heavy make up.

When I play story based games I try to immerse myself, but it is pretty hard to do that, then they try to sell you a "Major" that looks like one of those cheap cosplayers. The only one that made sense in MK9, was Mileena. Looking extremely sexy is her point. She is selling her body, cause face is nothing to look at (though MKX one does look good).



I prefer females having some actual muscle on body.

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Something along those lines.
Maybe even this much (depends on females)
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I bought MKX for PC. Day 1.



Fair Enough.

The female character designs we got in MK9 literally encouraged the likes of Nasty_Freak to propose turning MK into something that literally amounts to Strip Klub Kombat, Rated AO Kombat, or whatever you want to call the extreme end of that shit. The only character who has any business being oversexualized is Mileena, and that's because it's very well documented that she's a slut.

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[Misucra]

But what apology you mean?

Well... let me see. Couldn't play the game for 6 months (crashes, performance issues, crappiest netcode ever). They dropped KP2 support on us and left us on ice for months. By the time I finally got to play the game, my friends gave up on the game and the game became a dead town. Of course now it players again, but you would think for 60$ I would get to play the game on day 1. I couldn't even play story mode without crashes. And they didn't even recognize that.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

Well... let me see. Couldn't play the game for 6 months (crashes, performance issues, crappiest netcode ever). They dropped KP2 support on us and left us on ice for months. By the time I finally got to play the game, my friends gave up on the game and the game became a dead town. Of course now it players again, but you would think for 60$ I would get to play the game on day 1. I couldn't even play story mode without crashes. And they didn't even recognize that.

Ohh yeah, you are right, when you said about it I thought it was something about artistic choices, but now I remember and I agree about it.

Hope they don't *&$% PC gamers this time.

 

[JinCA]

MK9 Character design lacked imagination and most of the females looked like a 14 year old boys fantasy. You don't need to have camel toe showing and strings covering your nipples to be sexy. Something tight and form fitting around a nice figure is sexy enough, Sonya's body looks good in her work out clothes in this game and Skarlet has an outfit that is actually sexy too regardless of how their faces look. They don't show a ton of skin but you don't need to do that to be sexy. As the tech evolves and characters get more realistic they likely want to shy away from the over the top nudity, especially with them being part of WB. People point to DOA games but those characters look like toys not people, MK going for more realistic looking character models means they have to be careful. Yeah I know it's strange that we are talking about a game where decapitations and gutting people is considered a staple yet nudity is frowned upon but that's just how our society is and we have to change with the times.

 

[JinCA]

The fact that the arcade fatalities count and the SNES ones don't.

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As I said I liked that one better, it had nothing to do with sales etc. I remember when that controversy was going on, people were calling Nintendo's 800 number and telling them to allow the true fatalities and for the most part the censored ones did suck but Raidens just looked better. Kano and Jonny Cage's looked stupid.