Mortal Kombat 11 General Discussion Media Thread

[Misucra]

Who cares about high heels or make up...Nothing about Mortal Kombat is realistic. If that would be the case women wouldn't even participate, as men would simply destroy them.

Besides Jackie fought some chicks in high heels before :lol:

In this case. It isn't realism. It is pure aesthetics. I am definitely not looking for realism in MK where someone can get their head pierced and then get up like it is nothing.

I just hate high heels overall. They are unpractical in real life and they look like shit in both real life and games. But hey I am just one guy with an opinion.

 

[Austin Chaos]

If they were actually interesting and didn't spend time flirting with each other or having family issues they would have been more intresting.

No arguing that part. That was, though, a product of bad writing. You can have inter-relationship drama, if done right, and it not take away from the primary plot. Problem was, it was the primary plot.

I don't disagree though, that aspect really hampered the story.

 

[Misucra]

Mileenas face is lovely. Take that back.

MKX one? Sure. Looks lovely. I actually commended smart design choice. MK9. No way in hell I am gonna take it back. That face screams "lazy" all over. She looks like someone jammed that jaw into her mouth. She looks like... Luffy from One Piece, when he put Arlong's teeth in his mouth. She looks like pile of shit.

MKX one on other hand. Feels organic. You can actually tell, that there is some sort of genetic manipulation. Edenian and Tarkatan mixed together.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

Guys, not to cut the subject, a small help here: are we like 8 hours from the event?

Brazilian here so, we don't use PST, was looking here and if that's true then I do hope they address the story and new characters at the beginning lol

 

[Rumble21]

If that would be the case women wouldn't even participate, as men would simply destroy them.

That statement would be true in the real world, but almost all these characters have superpowers. So you cant rely on human anatomy and physiology.

 

[Tarkatan Trash]

You guys at the least keep my heart from getting cold when I read all of these last comments about guest characters.

This comment can be seen as extremist, but can't say I prefer losing slots to characters I never wanted there.

Leatherface, smh.

I really don't give a shit whether or not it's "seen as extremist". Native MK characters for MK or no characters at all. I'm not budging on this.

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[Misucra]

No arguing that part. That was, though, a product of bad writing. You can have inter-relationship drama, if done right, and it not take away from the primary plot. Problem was, it was the primary plot.

I don't disagree though, that aspect really hampered the story.

Exactly. We had so many interesting plots, that could have been covered. They coould have showed how Mileena got her hands on Amulet, hel shown us anything about the DAMN CIVIL WAR. I only saw one measly battle. I would have paid money to get an opportunitty to play through battles that happened in comics. Kotal Kahn vs Goro and then his father. Siege upon Kotal Kahn's castle. But noooooo. Instead we get Takeda smooth talking Jacqui.... zzzzzzz

 

[Austin Chaos]

MKX one on other hand. Feels organic. You can actually tell, that there is some sort of genetic manipulation. Edenian and Tarkatan mixed together.

So then, if you were to design Baraka, would he have the traditional Tarkatan mouth, or Mileena's MKX style? Is that the part you're saying looks like a genetic modification? Because I really like that thought, and hadn't thought of it that way prior. I wasn't a fan of her mouth style, but you've possibly changed my mind on it.

 

[Misucra]

Guys, not to cut the subject, a small help here: are we like 8 hours from the event?

Brazilian here so, we don't use PST, was looking here and if that's true then I do hope they address the story and new characters at the beginning lol

Eh no. Right now it is 11pm at my place... sooo.. if I am correct. We are 20h and 30 min away from the event.

 

[Rumble21]

Guys, not to cut the subject, a small help here: are we like 8 hours from the event?

Brazilian here so, we don't use PST, was looking here and if that's true then I do hope they address the story and new characters at the beginning lol

I believe it starts at 2pm eastern. So 21 hours from now

 

[Commander]

Also. Wait... why do people keep bringing that stuff up? I thought it was clear as a day that they don't mean what they say. Jax was talking shit at Sonya and beating the living shit out of her... why? She didn't kill him. Or cause his death. She literally saved him multiple times. They are hostile, because they are revenants. That's the only reason why Kitana, Kung Lao, or any of the revenants blame Raiden. They are slaves to Quan Chi. Of course they gonna shit on Raiden and everyone who is not part of Quan Chi's army. Well maybe exceot Liu Kang, but again he died as he let his emotions take over him and he wasnt thinking straight after Kitana died. Not to mention, hearing Raiden talk about siding with Quan Chi, while he is looking over his dead friends who literally just died fighting against Quan Chi made him snap. Can't really blame the guy. He lost everything. Shaolin burned down, His best friend dead, his love interest died in his arms, his dead friends lying around him and the man/God he greatly respects and considers as a teacher is telling him to work with the guy who was responsible for entire invasion.

So he does have some reason to hate Raiden, but everyone else? Just cruel Quan Chi's mind games. He usses their friends as slaves and turns them against their former allies, while at the same time Revenants blame their former friends, trying to break them, bring out their guilt. Like how Revenant Jax was effective with Sonya. She was his superior and he died in a line of duty, and she blames herself as his superior, so Revenenat Jax just needed to press the right buttons.

You're talking about fight intros?

I'm talking about in story mode.
Revenants or not, the whole "blame Raiden" trope was already over-done in MKX.
Kung Lao was showboating and over-celebrating that he "defeated" Shao Kahn in MK9, when Shao Kahn came from behind and snapped his neck. Had he not been an over-zealous @$$hole, he probably wouldn't have died.
Liu Kang also let his emotions get the best of him, as you mentioned, and Raiden was trying to plea with Quan Chi to find a way to get the souls back.

I'm not saying or implying that Raiden is free of blame, as he relied too much on the "visions" and less on the EarthRealm heroes, but I don't think that the blame lies squarely on him when Liu and Kung Lao also have themselves to blame for their downfall, especially Kung Lao.
He has no leg to stand in on saying that Raiden is to blame for his death.
How about checking to see if Shao Kahn is really defeated before prematurely assuming?

 

[Misucra]

So then, if you were to design Baraka, would he have the traditional Tarkatan mouth, or Mileena's MKX style? Is that the part you're saying looks like a genetic modification? Because I really like that thought, and hadn't thought of it that way prior. I wasn't a fan of her mouth style, but you've possibly changed my mind on it.

I would give Baraka, the fangs that Mileena had (the side ones). They looked more Tarkatan, then what Baraka had. He just had this lazy pointy teeth design. Didn't feel as organic.

What I mean by genetic modification is that Mileena's mouth represents both worlds in MKX. Her lips look smooth and attractive, but they immediately get overshadowed by her fangs on the sides and if she opens her mouth you can see, that even her front teeth ain't for children to play with.

It is perfect look in my opinion. She is THIS close to looking like a beauty, but her fangs like cancer ruin entire image.

 

[badmouse]

How many hours left till the event?

 

[Austin Chaos]

I would give Baraka, the fangs that Mileena had (the side ones). They looked more Tarkatan, then what Baraka had. He just had this lazy pointy teeth design. Didn't feel as organic.

What I mean by genetic modification is that Mileena's mouth represents both worlds in MKX. Her lips look smooth and attractive, but they immediately get overshadowed by her fangs on the sides and if she opens her mouth you can see, that even her front teeth ain't for children to play with.

It is perfect look in my opinion. She is THIS close to looking like a beauty, but her fangs like cancer ruin entire image.

Gotcha'. You're absolutely right...it lulls you into thinking she's this perfect Edenian, and than BAM nasty tarkatan teeth. And I suppose it is more organic looking, even on Baraka.

 

[Misucra]

You're talking about fight intros?

I'm talking about in story mode.
Revenants or not, the whole "blame Raiden" trope was already over-done in MKX.
Kung Lao was showboating and over-celebrating that he "defeated" Shao Kahn in MK9, when Shao Kahn came from behind and snapped his neck. Had he not been an over-zealous @$$hole, he probably wouldn't have died.
Liu Kang also let his emotions get the best of him, as you mentioned, and Raiden was trying to plea with Quan Chi to find a way to get the souls back.

I'm not saying or implying that Raiden is free of blame, as he relied too much on the "visions" and less on the EarthRealm heroes, but I don't think that the blame lies squarely on him when Liu and Kung Lao also have themselves to blame for their downfall, especially Kung Lao.
He has no leg to stand in on saying that Raiden is to blame for his death.
How about checking to see if Shao Kahn is really defeated before prematurely assuming?

Wow, wow. Nah. You went a bit sideways. I was talking about story mode this entire time. It is clearly shown in the story, that all revenants are hostile against their own will. They blame anyone. If it is not Raiden, then someone else. Quan Chi made them hostile to everyone. Most of them blame Raiden, not because they actually believe that, but because they are Revenants. I don't think Kung Lao would actually blame Raiden if he was alive. I mean look at Jack. As Revenant he shat on Sonya for no reason in story mode (the very beginning), but once he was revived, he is back to being a Sergeant. They literally mentioned multiple times, both in comics and game, that Revenants have no will, they see what they are doing, but it is not them doing it.

That's why Jax sounded so strange to me, when he spoke to Kitana. "I hated what I did as Revenant, but it seems you're enjoying it Kitana". Yeah I don't remember you crying, while you beat Sonya's ass. Oh wait you were Revenant. You spoke and did, what Quan Chi demanded you to do. And guess what? Kitana is literally the same. She is bound to Quan Chi and the Netherrealm. It ain't her choice who she hates. She is literally 100% slave, without the mind of her own. Same with others. So all that "blaming Raiden" trope didn't bother me in MKX, as I knew that they said, was just their attempt to break Raiden's spirit. Make him feel guilty over their deaths. And you could see that, when Raiden fought revenants during the ending.

Yeah he was tired, but guilt also made him slower and hesitant to fight those who died fighting for him.

I am not saying myself that Raiden is all to blame for this. He had limited time and broken visions that barely made sense to him. I mean. It is easy for us to tell, what those visions mean as we know the original MK Timeline. But Raiden just got whispers and static images. And also that cryptic message. "He must win". So I wouldn't even blame Raiden. He did his best with what he had, against overwhelming odds. While yeah, he could have probably avoided a lot of deaths if he was more aggressive, but during MK9 he was boy scout God. Laws, rules. He honors all of them, while everyone else is breaking them. So yeah. If anything. The one to blame is that dumbass who sent broken images and cryptic messages. Couldn't even do proper warning. And now most likely thanks to him entire universe is going to shit, because he had to mess with time. That stupid a$$ Rai... wait...

 

[Misucra]

I really don't give a shit whether or not it's "seen as extremist". Native MK characters for MK or no characters at all. I'm not budging on this.

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I don't think ANYONE who likes MK, Would call you extremist about this matter. Nor I think anyone would shed a tear, if they didn't put any guest characters at all.

I am down for pure MK roster. I mean, if they added Spawn. Fine. I like Spawn, and I can kiiiiiiiiinda give him a pass. But what would be even better? Pure MK roster. I would take MOCAP guy over Leatherface. That guy is a freaking hero in my books.

Imagine a guy doing mocap for MK, only to be dragged into MK world, and then fighting through hordes of enemies to the very top and beating Blaze. That's some Employee of the Year shit right here.

 

[Misucra]

[MENTION=9871]Xenon[/MENTION]

Didn't that clip with Jackie Chan vs 4 girls, just prove my point? They literally lost, as their high heels got in the way, so they had to get rid of them? Thanks for supporting my point XD

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

I really don't give a shit whether or not it's "seen as extremist". Native MK characters for MK or no characters at all. I'm not budging on this.

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Just to be clear, I wasn't saying I thought this as extremist, but it could by many people since guest characters are popular, and I honestly prefer an "extremist" idea like this than the main idea we have for slots nowadays.

I'm totally pro MK:A size of roster, stages and etc. If they wanna sell guests, I'm ok, just don't take the places of MK characters.

 

[Commander]

Wow, wow. Nah. You went a bit sideways. I was talking about story mode this entire time. It is clearly shown in the story, that all revenants are hostile against their own will. They blame anyone. If it is not Raiden, then someone else. Quan Chi made them hostile to everyone. Most of them blame Raiden, not because they actually believe that, but because they are Revenants. I don't think Kung Lao would actually blame Raiden if he was alive. I mean look at Jack. As Revenant he shat on Sonya for no reason in story mode (the very beginning), but once he was revived, he is back to being a Sergeant. They literally mentioned multiple times, both in comics and game, that Revenants have no will, they see what they are doing, but it is not them doing it.

That's why Jax sounded so strange to me, when he spoke to Kitana. "I hated what I did as Revenant, but it seems you're enjoying it Kitana". Yeah I don't remember you crying, while you beat Sonya's ass. Oh wait you were Revenant. You spoke and did, what Quan Chi demanded you to do. And guess what? Kitana is literally the same. She is bound to Quan Chi and the Netherrealm. It ain't her choice who she hates. She is literally 100% slave, without the mind of her own. Same with others. So all that "blaming Raiden" trope didn't bother me in MKX, as I knew that they said, was just their attempt to break Raiden's spirit. Make him feel guilty over their deaths. And you could see that, when Raiden fought revenants during the ending.

Yeah he was tired, but guilt also made him slower and hesitant to fight those who died fighting for him.

So, what will their excuse be for MK11, where Quan Chi is likely still dead and they're not bound to Quan Chi's demands?
At the end of MKX they're still opposing Raiden when he drops Shinnok's head off at their feet and gives them a stern warning.
They didn't seem to show any remorse for what they had done at the end of MKX.

I am not saying myself that Raiden is all to blame for this. He had limited time and broken visions that barely made sense to him. I mean. It is easy for us to tell, what those visions mean as we know the original MK Timeline. But Raiden just got whispers and static images. And also that cryptic message. "He must win". So I wouldn't even blame Raiden. He did his best with what he had, against overwhelming odds. While yeah, he could have probably avoided a lot of deaths if he was more aggressive, but during MK9 he was boy scout God. Laws, rules. He honors all of them, while everyone else is breaking them. So yeah. If anything. The one to blame is that dumbass who sent broken images and cryptic messages. Couldn't even do proper warning. And now most likely thanks to him entire universe is going to shit, because he had to mess with time. That stupid a$$ Rai... wait...

I got your sarcasm, but I was mainly speaking about MK9 / current timeline Raiden, not Armageddon / old timeline Raiden.
That's a different topic altogether, with old timeline Raiden trying to resurrect Liu and doing a terrible job and turning him into a zombie.

 

[p.W]

What's hilarious about the anti-SJW sentiment attached to MKX is the fact that this might be the worst time in MK franchise history to bring it up.

If you want to look at this franchise through an SJW/anti-SJW lens, which is a terrible idea but I guess some people can't help it, MK9 was literally a time travel plot to minimize the impact of Asian characters in favor of white characters.

It erased Liu Kang's accomplishment of defeating Shao Kahn in MK3 and Shinnok in MK4, and turned him into an antagonist/villain, in favor of elevating Raiden (now unambiguously white) to be the new protagonist, with Johnny and Sonya becoming hugely important POV characters along the way.

Just imagine the screeching if that had been done in reverse. If we'd had a time travel plot that erased a decade of a white protagonist's accomplishments, turned him into the bad guy, and gave his screentime to, say, a bunch of black characters instead. The internet would have gone absolutely apeshit. But do it to Liu Kang and not only does no one bat an eyelash (because people correctly perceive it as an innocent fluke of storytelling), but the franchise is actually called MORE SJW than ever before.

If you want to complain about an MK game being too SJW, complain about MK2. Out of 9 playable human characters, 5 were Asian, 2 were female, and 1 was black. There was literally only one unambiguously white character in the game. But of course in MK2 it was "innocent" while in MKX, despite having more white characters, in more important roles, it's all part of an SJW agenda. Lol.

People see whatever they want to see.