Roster Speculation

Lord Greyjoy said:
Tornadoes that lift and hold you up, pull you in, etc, and a Fujin that can turn into a twister and spin across the stage.

I believe NRS is creative enough to make it work nonetheless, but I'm just pointing out that Kitana and Kung Lao have this stuff.
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So, those 2 characters having 1 move that "resembles" something that he had in the past = him not being in???
I find that argument EXTREMELY weak, given that Sonya is also likely in due to the Towers / Factions video leak and people prior to that video liked to debate "Well, Cassie has her military stance and arc kick, etc, etc. Herpety, derp, derp, derp."
 
Commander said:
So, those 2 characters having 1 move that "resembles" something that he had in the past = him not being in???
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Elias6999 said:
That doesn't deconfirm Fujin though, if it were, it would be Raiden honoring Fujin by borrowing some of his moves as a tribute, like Kitana and Jade.
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I never said it deconfirmed him. I said characters having moves that I'd expect to be attributed to him doesn't help his chances.
 
We're probably getting Cassie and Sonya, both of them. So if NRS can make those 2 very similar characters work I'm sure they can come up with a very new and different moveset for Fujin.
 
Cryo said:
We're probably getting Cassie and Sonya, both of them. So if NRS can make those 2 very similar characters work I'm sure they can come up with a very new and different moveset for Fujin.
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Yes, and I mentioned that:

Lord Greyjoy said:
I believe NRS is creative enough to make it work nonetheless, but I'm just pointing out that Kitana and Kung Lao have this stuff.
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But people just straw man me or don't read my entire post.

Also, I think Cassie has a lot more in common with Johnny than with Sonya, in terms of both personality (funny, egotistical) and gameplay (shadow powers).
 
If Fujin's chances are lower due to Kitana and Kung Lao having 1 wind inspired move, then wouldn't that also make other characters chances just as low if they have a Teleport, given that it's 1 of Raiden's iconic moves and that he has a whole variation based off of Teleporting too?
Would Scorpion's chances have been any lower since he and Raiden both can Teleport?
You see?
Where do we draw the line, as far as 1 move or another determining another characters' chances of being in?

I'm just trying to ask legit questions here.
 
If one thing lowers Fujin's chances is that there is a special level in the tower-mode which has very strong winds because the wind god Fujin has been killed and the wind powers went berserk...

A good chance is the plane in that destroyed city level, wind is the worst enemies for any plane, so this gives me hopes up for DARK fujin that used his wind powers to bring chaos to the skies so the plane crushed the village.
 
Commander said:
If Fujin's chances are lower due to Kitana and Kung Lao having 1 wind inspired move
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I pointed out a lot more than one. If the ones you ignored are not actual moves in the final game, then there's no problem. We'll find out tomorrow regarding Kitana.

then wouldn't that also make other characters chances just as low if they have a Teleport, given that it's 1 of Raiden's iconic moves and that he has a whole variation based off of Teleporting too? Would Scorpion's chances have been any lower since he and Raiden both can Teleport?
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I'm not sure this applies. Having tornado spin attacks is not commonly as universal as something like a teleport or projectile or (extreme example) uppercut.

Regardless, I don't disagree with you. Not sure why we're arguing.

I still think Fujin has a decent chance of making the game. Certainly the biggest chance among any of the MK4 characters. I'm just saying that IF these characters have moves with tornado/wind properties, then Fujin's chances aren't as high as they would be if these moves didn't exist. Is that such a reach?
 
Fujin has a brand new detailed outift in the comics - that to me is a sign he's in. Characters like Tasia, Jarek and Reiko have all their past outfits for example...

I truly believe both Fujin and Erron Black are in.
 
Lord Greyjoy said:
I pointed out a lot more than one. If the ones you ignored are not actual moves in the final game, then there's no problem. We'll find out tomorrow regarding Kitana.
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I'm sorry that I didn't address it, but I didn't ignore it.
Doesn't Cassie supposedly have the Shadow Kick and nut punch as regular moves as well as the nut punch X-Ray?
Again, I don't think this disqualifies her father from being in, but I'm just trying to use a point of comparison here.
I don't see why a couple of moves = lower chances.
If they can heavily modify Kenshi for MK9, they can do the same with Fujin in MKX.


Lord Greyjoy said:
I'm not sure this applies. Having tornado spin attacks is not commonly as universal as something like a teleport or projectile or (extreme example) uppercut.

Regardless, I don't disagree with you. Not sure why we're arguing.

I still think Fujin has a decent chance of making the game. Certainly the biggest chance among any of the MK4 characters. I'm just saying that IF these characters have moves with tornado/wind properties, then Fujin's chances aren't as high as they would be if these moves didn't exist. Is that such a reach?
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Sure, it's not as universal, but it can also be said that the fan-lift is an "air" inspired move, if people want to be technical.

I didn't mean for it to come off as an argument.
I was legitimately asking, "Where do we draw the line?" with these points of comparison among the moves. ;)

As do I.
I also think that Fujin has the best chances out of the entire MK4 cast, but I still don't see how these characters having these moves limits him from being in, given that he could get totally different moves or an overhaul.
That's my point.
If Raiden had a variation in which some moves are Fujin inspired, in remembrance of the character, like Kitana does with her "Mournful" variation to Jade, then I could see more of your point.
 
Fujin from Armageddon sucks.

They sucked with Shinnok and Fujin putting them among the worst and poorest kind of combos.

Won't even mention the idiotic powers (and Fujin had two moves from original, yet they made it look trash [no offense to user TT]).

I want Fujin's kick from MK4. That's a move for a wind god.

I hope he is on MKX. Really, he needs a chance.
 
So anybody else notice that the written description about Erron Black is pretty much the same as Salazar's description from the casting sheet.
 
Can't that same question be asked of MK9 Cyber Sub-Zero?
Yet, he was killed of in the same game in which he was created.
 
Commander said:
Can't that same question be asked of MK9 Cyber Sub-Zero?
Yet, he was killed of in the same game in which he was created.
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His design wasn't nearly as unique or striking (IMO). Plus, they half-assed the moveset by simply giving him a little bit of Sub and a little bit of Cyrax. Lazy effort through and through.
 
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