No, they're hers. You're acting like if it's an Ice ability than it must be Sub-Zero. Point is that like the Fire users the Ice users used their abilities differently.
No, they are not. And I am not acting like that. I am asking for variety.
You can write it as much as you want, it doesn't change my belief that she shouldn't be denied abilities because Sub-Zero is there. He can't have every ice ability in his moveset, it wouldn't fit and Frost has shown that she uses ice stuff differently since she first appeared in Deadly Alliance.
And you can write as much as you want and it won't change my stance on this at all.
So why are you acting like Frost stole everything from Sub-Zero as well?
She never "stoled" moves. They're similar towards a move that we have seen before. That's not original, that's not something I want to continue seeing. I want to see Frost do something that we have never seen before but still use her abilities. That is all I am asking for, but unfortunately, it's too much to ask for, clearly.
If you have no doubts then why make posts full of doubt? They completely overhauled Kenshi and Ermac, neither is anything alike despite having the same powers and neither are "stealing" from the other either. Both were also highly original as well in MK9.
What doubts are you reading because all I've been saying is that I want to see variety and differences with her. Nothing that I have wrote said anything about me thinking that I feel like they won't give her any change and that all we're gonna see is the same old same old just be done differently.
I feel like you're either misunderstanding my point, you're skimming through my posts real fast, reading what you want to read, or just feel that because I said I would like to see Frost do something different with her abilities that it's like "oh how dare this person say that."
The moment I see Frost and I see what they do with her, I'll give my impressions. Until then, I'm not going to say anything about what I feel with the creators because I don't know how they'll treat her if she is even in this game at all.
You really are by trying to put restrictions, that make no sense, because you want Sub-Zero to be the freeze guy and want her to be stuck with a slow effect. No reason she shouldn't be allowed to freeze in a different matter. Heck, give her short range freeze grabs or the such that Sub-Zero wouldn't have or even dream of having due to him having a completely different fighting style as he wouldn't randomly start doing MMA stuff. It doesn't fit his character or his training.
I'm not putting restrictions, I just want to see other effects be used with ice since you can do more than just freezing people. I mean hell, with all these MMOs and such that have sorcerers wielding ice and such, they freeze AND slows characters down. So if other games can show other effects from ice, why can't two ice characters do the same?
Because she canonically can freeze people, no reason to give her a retcon and "Nerf" her so Sub-Zero is a special snowflake.
I love how you think I want Sub-Zero to be the special one and Frost shouldn't. I love how I can't sit here and ask for variety between two ice characters. You're clearly the reason why I love debating this character to the death because it's users like you who sit here and want her to have everything that many just didn't care for.
I love this character, but I wasn't too happy with her abilities because they were from Sub-Zero's. I wanted to see something different with her and instead we got a variation of his moves with her. Just because those are "her" moves because they are somewhat different than Sub-Zero's, it doesn't mean those are her moves and her moves only. If Sub-Zero had never performed them before, then I would agree that they are. But we've seen this character use these moves before her, so they are not hers.
You can deny all you want, you are not going to change my mind on this. So I think it's best to just agree to disagree.
You're assuming that she couldn't use freezing differently. You're denying creativity for sure by saying "She can't freeze because Sub-Zero freezes even though they both have the same Ice powers and heritage".
How am I denying creativity when I have sat here and argued with you and gave you suggestions as to what other stuff she can use in her arsenal?
Snow, mist, water, glaciers... stuff that Sub-Zero doesn't have. Are you seriously saying all that stuff can't be used and that she HAS to freeze people? I feel like you're the one that is denying creativity and originality because she shouldn't have that. Hell, you even said that you don't want to see her using snow. Why shouldn't she? What's the harm in her using snow? She can use a snowball to throw at her opponents to stun them either by confusing them (such as "What did you just hit me with?") or she whips it at the head so fast. You would rather see her freeze than having her use some other ice ability?
That's um... real creative -_-
