Ed Boon: "Guest characters very likely"

Guyver Spawn said:
MK Online posted a page about Mad Max being possible DLC

http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?id=151862&page=1

If Mad Max becomes DLC then he would be the only MKX character I would not download. He would be a total waste of a slot and a lame choice. I would see his fatalities and ending via Youtube.
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:laugh:

People are just assuming that because Ferra/Torr resembles Master Blaster, which is the first thing that I thought of, when I saw Ferra Torr.

I'd take this with a grain of salt, for now, though.
Someone like either Jason or Michael Meyers would likely make the "guest DLC" cut before Mad Max, because those 2 are more popular than Mad Max.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
:laugh:

People are just assuming that because Ferra/Torr resembles Master Blaster, which is the first thing that I thought of, when I saw Ferra Torr.

I'd take this with a grain of salt, for now, though.
Someone like either Jason or Michael Meyers would likely make the "guest DLC" cut before Mad Max, because those 2 are more popular than Mad Max.
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Michael Myers would be a disaster. He is so far from being a good fit in a fighting game.
 
Ricochetmatt said:
Michael Myers would be a disaster. He is so far from being a good fit in a fighting game.
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Agree.
You have no argument from me there.

I'm just saying, given that NRS chose a horror icon for MK9, I wouldn't be surprised if they chose another horror icon for MK X, especially since MK X feels more dark and gritty.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
Agree.
You have no argument from me there.

I'm just saying, given that NRS chose a horror icon for MK9, I wouldn't be surprised if they chose another horror icon for MK X, especially since MK X feels more dark and gritty.
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There are far more suitable horror icons for MKX than Myers. Michael is a very slow moving creepy boogeyman-like character.

If they were to go with another horror icon, I'd say Leatherface, Ash, Jason, the dude from The Crow and Spawn would be better choices.

If they go with Myers I will rage even harder than I did over Kratos.
 
Ricochetmatt said:
There are far more suitable horror icons for MKX than Myers. Michael is a very slow moving creepy boogeyman-like character.

If they were to go with another horror icon, I'd say Leatherface, Ash, Jason, the dude from The Crow and Spawn would be better choices.

If they go with Myers I will rage even harder than I did over Kratos.
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At this point, I don't care who is guest DLC, as long as they keep it off of the main roster.
They can make them DLC (Thus, making more revenue for the studio. Maybe pre-orders can come with a code to DL the guest for free), with the compatibility packs mandatory to play online and everyone wins.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
At this point, I don't care who is guest DLC, as long as they keep it off of the main roster.
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I don't understand this mindset.
If a guest character is made to be DLC, then they are, 100% without a fraction of doubt, taking an MK character's spot.
But if you have them on the main roster, and out of the main story, then they aren't taking anybody's spot. They're just extra.
 
Ricochetmatt said:
There are far more suitable horror icons for MKX than Myers. Michael is a very slow moving creepy boogeyman-like character.

If they were to go with another horror icon, I'd say Leatherface, Ash, Jason, the dude from The Crow and Spawn would be better choices.

If they go with Myers I will rage even harder than I did over Kratos.
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Then again, it is very common for fighters to have slow fighters in the game. A lot of the mainstream fighters have at least one slow character who is either a: grappler or hard-hitter.
 
Michael Myers is pretty much a lamer version of Jason though.
At least Jason has the supernatural power of invincibility and super strength.

Myers is just a silent dude with a mask. He isn't even creepy under his mask. He's just an aaaverage joe
 
BBBLP said:
Michael Myers is pretty much a lamer version of Jason though.
At least Jason has the supernatural power of invincibility and super strength.

Myers is just a silent dude with a mask. He isn't even creepy under his mask. He's just an aaaverage joe
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Oh come on! Myers is incredibly more terrifying than Jason. Cause like, he's more than just a mute in a mask. There is no rhyme or reason for why he does what he does. (And don't throw the love/hate relationship he has with his sister at me... Or the curse of the Thorn bulls***. I will chew your face off)

With Michael there is no explanation for any of it (going off of the original Halloween). Why does he move so slowly? Why doesn't he speak? Why go on a killing spree on Halloween? That along with his emotionless white mask, his unnerving heavy breathing and super creeper status makes him far more interesting and scary than Jason.

Jason is so predictable. He's a mentally challenged, physically deformed victim of bullying. He drowns in a lake cause teenagers suck and then comes back to murder innocent people that him and his nutty mother feel are guilty, for whatever reason. I mean, I enjoyed Friday the 13th 1 and 2... But come on. The biggest scare from those films was when he jumped through the window at the cute blonde in part two.

Also, that Halloween theme song...

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End rant.
 
BBBLP said:
I don't understand this mindset.
If a guest character is made to be DLC, then they are, 100% without a fraction of doubt, taking an MK character's spot.
But if you have them on the main roster, and out of the main story, then they aren't taking anybody's spot. They're just extra.
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I don't understand your mindset.
DLC isn't taking anyone's spot, because if they're DLC then NRS excluded them from the story and game on purpose, to begin with, which is what sucks about the Rain situation.
I don't recall Rain, Freddy, Skarlet or Kenshi being in the MK9 story, AT ALL.

DLC is what's extra, hence why it doesn't come included with the game, and you purchase it separately.
It's an extra bought add-on.
If something was extra, it wouldn't come included.

The definition of extra includes:
1) added to an existing or usual amount or number.
2) an item in addition to what is usual or strictly necessary.
3) an item for which an additional charge is made.

On the main roster though (story or not), that guest character IS taking up a roster slot, that could otherwise have gone to an MK character that DOES have story potential for MK X, and gets relegated to DLC due to the guest.
 
Let me show you how DLC works.



"So who is going to be the third character for MKX's season pass?
Shinnok, Havik, Sweet Tooth or Kai?"


If Sweet Tooth is chosen, then he does in fact take an MK character's spot.
But if he is added to the initial roster, then he takes nobody's place. Because the story (aka who is going to be in the game) is drafted up LONG before any Guest deals start to take place.


As much as I know it pains you to hear this, I will tell you once again. Rain was never going to be on MK9's main roster. And Kratos did not take his place. Kratos had NOTHING to do with Rain being DLC. Because as you can plainly see, Skarlet was the first dlc character they started working on. Her character model (and alt) was already on the disc before she was even out. It isn't like they finished the main roster, got Kratos in there and because of him had no time to finish Rain.

They had not even begun to create Rain because he, again, was never going to be on the main roster. Because, again, they did not put him in the story.
 
BBBLP said:
"So who is going to be the third character for MKX's season pass?
Shinnok, Havik, Sweet Tooth or Kai?"


If Sweet Tooth is chosen, then he does in fact take an MK character's spot.
But if he is added to the initial roster, then he takes nobody's place. Because the story (aka who is going to be in the game) is drafted up LONG before any Guest deals start to take place.
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Not true.
Kratos as a guest on the main roster was a deal that had taken place WAY before the game and story was even done, as is evident by the deal that NRS made with Sony Santa Monica to have him in, and for NRS to work in conjunction with Sony Santa Monica, to make sure that Kratos is done to their (Sony Santa Monica's) liking.

If Sweet Tooth is the 3rd or 4th character of the season pass, out of 4 season pass characters (with the 3 others being DLC MK characters, in this hypothetical situation), he can be considered as the "extra" character with that season pass, as the season pass usually goes for $15, meaning that people get 1 free extra character anyways.


BBBLP said:
As much as I know it pains you to hear this, I will tell you once again. Rain was never going to be on MK9's main roster. And Kratos did not take his place. Kratos had NOTHING to do with Rain being DLC. Because as you can plainly see, Skarlet was the first dlc character they started working on. Her character model (and alt) was already on the disc before she was even out. It isn't like they finished the main roster, got Kratos in there and because of him had no time to finish Rain.

They had not even begun to create Rain because he, again, was never going to be on the main roster. Because, again, they did not put him in the story.
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I will also tell you once again that Rain did have potential to be in MK9's story, in the early stages of making the game.
NRS decided not to do that, and do Kratos, CSZ and Quan Chi instead.
Kratos himself may or may not have been the reason for Rain not being in, but Quan Chi and Cyber Sub-Zero also are culprits.
I've stated quite a few times how CSZ could have easily been an alt for human Sub-Zero, and would free up a roster spot.
 
Jesus Christ I don't feel like running in circles with this guy again :cry:

Araknyd_Commander said:
If Sweet Tooth is the 3rd or 4th character of the season pass, out of 4 season pass characters (with the 3 others being DLC MK characters, in this hypothetical situation), he can be considered as the "extra" character with that season pass, as the season pass usually goes for $15, meaning that people get 1 free extra character anyways.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Stop thinking about who is free and who costs money. That shit is subjective.
If the MKX season pass could be Fujin, Mokap, Kobra and Hsu Hao.
But turns into Sweet Tooth, Kobra, Mokap, Hsu Hao. Then a guest character did in fact take an MK character's slot. Because none of those characters will appear in the story.



Araknyd_Commander said:
I will also tell you once again that Rain did have potential to be in MK9's story, in the early stages of making the game.
NRS decided not to do that, and do Kratos, CSZ and Quan Chi instead.
Kratos himself may or may not have been the reason for Rain not being in, but Quan Chi and Cyber Sub-Zero also are culprits.
I've stated quite a few times how CSZ could have easily been an alt for human Sub-Zero, and would free up a roster spot.
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You wanna know who disagreed about Rain's potential?
NRS.


Deny it all you want. But Kratos had nothing to do with Rain being left out. *shrug*
 
NRS didn't think, "Well, we've already got Kratos, Cyber Subby Z and Quan Chi... let's not put in Rain in because that's too much."

They just didn't plan to put Rain in the game.

By your logic, Liu Kang is also at fault because the time they spent to make Liu Kang, they could have spent making Rain... and you're saying culprit like not having Rain in the main cast is some sort of crime; it's not.

I know what you're going to say "Quan Chi, Kratos and CSZ weren't in MK 1-3 so it's their fault."

No, it's NRS' decision. They just weren't going to put Rain in. I understand that you're salty because you didn't get your way initially, but my child, there is no need to cry. Sometimes you just have to bite the pillow when you're butthurt.
 
BBBLP said:
If the MKX season pass could be Fujin, Mokap, Kobra and Hsu Hao.
But turns into Sweet Tooth, Kobra, Mokap, Hsu Hao. Then a guest character did in fact take an MK character's slot. Because none of those characters will appear in the story.
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Ok, I'll go off of this.
You contradict yourself with saying that guest DLC characters would be taking up an MK character slot due to not being in the story, yet Kratos wasn't in the story either and he was on the main MK9 roster (taking up an MK character slot).
By relegating Kratos (a non-story character) to DLC, that main roster slot is now open for another MK character to appear in the story (forget about Rain).

Scorpion being in Injustice was planned from day 1, given that he's Ed Boon's favorite, and he didn't take up an Injustice main character slot, because the characters that NRS felt had potential to be in the story were on the main roster.
According to what your saying, which is where you contradict yourself, since Scorpion was planned for DLC (like Kratos was for the MK9 main roster), then he didn't take up a spot as DLC because he was planned ahead of time?
 
Scorpion being in Injustice never bother me since Capcom did the same thing with Akuma in X-Men: Children of the Atom years ago. Guest fighters can help people introduced people into the franchise. I would never found about Shin Megami Tensei if Dante wasn't in Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne or became a Soul Caliber fan if it wasn't for Link being in the Gamecube version of SC2. As long they are not in the story mode then they are fine by me.
 
Guyver Spawn said:
Guest fighters can help people introduced people into the franchise.
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I could see that point better if MK X was the first MK game ever.
MK is a franchise that's been around for 22 years.
Most casuals / non-hardcore MK random people who pick up MK, flock to MK because yellow (Scorpion) and blue (Sub-Zero) are in.
MK9, though, revitalized people's interest into the MK franchise for this generation.
While Kratos and Freddy may have brought more people along, that "introduce people into the franchise" excuse is a lame excuse for MK X.
If people don't know what MK is by now, especially after the MK9 reboot, then they've seriously been living under a rock.
 
I honestly don't mind if one DLC character is a guest. It's not like I need to put down $5.00 for it if I don't want it. Whoever it is, if I like them I might get them, if not, then Netherrealm and Warner Brothers won't get five extra dollars from me.

It's tiresome to see how some people act like it takes away a spot of another character. I feel like those guys don't realize that the list of characters has already been created long before any kind of announcement to the public. DLC obviously has been chosen as well. Anyone who still thinks that it takes away a spot for a character who "deserves it more" or "it takes time away to create other characters" needs to get their head out of whatever hole it's stuck in and realize that these characters have already been chosen for the roster.

This isn't what I've seen here, on other sites. I just don't like when people think it takes away something when everyone has already been planned.
 
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