Your wishlist of Characters from MK4-MKA, prototypes, glitched and new for MK10

AMES32 said:
If they need help with shinnok and they have someone who not only know's what Quan chi is thinking but is also able and willing to help why would they turn him away?

funny they did just that, Smoke called Kuai liang "Tundra." Yeah he corrected him but it still stands. He was called Tundra first in this timeline. How does Sub Zero at one time being calle Tundra change the fact in both timelines the name was taken in honor of the one that came before?

Bi Han's Code name is "Sub Zero" he has no other code name before his death. That makes Kuai liang's real Code name "Tundra" sorry but it's true. Even if they have that correlation. That doesn't make someone one ignorant it means they pay attention to the story's detail. And if it was the other way around? It changes nothing.


If you look at it Kuai liang dishonored the name.

Bi Han - Loyal Lin Kuei Assassin
Father - Loyal Lin Kuei Assassin
Then we have Kuai liang who disobeys his orders. He may be a noble man, but hes not "honorable" within the Lin Kuel.
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So murdering people unjustly brings honor to the name??? Yeah totally honorable. He said he would take the name and bring honor to it. He lived for the Lin Kuei as well though, until they decided to make their members mindless cyborgs who do nothing but kill. He then realized that the way he had been living was wrong and abandoned them.

Actually they both do have names that aren't Sub-Zero and Tundra it's bi han and kuai liang. If Sub-Zero was a family name it would make sense for Kuai Liang to take it on if Bi Han died.

Like if my brother had a codename and died and I took it on, I wouldn't lose it if he came back.

I'm through with arguing this though. You have called me a fanboy in the past, but it's quite obvious that your a Bi-han dickrider just as hard so I'm done arguing. You like Bi-han I get it. That doesn't mean it makes anymore sense for him to come back as Sub-Zero. In fact, it makes very little sense, less sense than Kuai Liang. It's just not a good theory. He is Noob Saibot now, and if the forces of light are ressurected then Kuai Liang will still be Sub-Zero. Also watching the ending again I'm guessing that the heroes souls will be in the balance because Shao Kahn didn't merge the realms which means Quan Chi broke his contract. Those souls don't belong to him. Something is going to be undone in the next game. I'm not sure what it is, but something just didn't sit right at the end. There's no way that some of those guys aren's coming back.

Also, I noticed a weird little thing. When Raiden leaves the netherrealm from talking to Quan Chi 3 characters are left standing there which was awesome to me. Sub-Zero, Jade, and Smoke which are also the three I predicted will be back along with Kang.
 
Ha. You can't honesty tell me you think Kuai liang has never unjustly murdered someone? They where both Assassin's it was their Job to kill unjustly and if you notice I said "within" the Lin Kuel.

Um.. Smart one I said "CODE NAME" not actual name.

No... I don't really like the character, I saw you just going on and on and dismissing every change because it's not what you want. If Bi Han was to return he would retain the name seeing as how it's "his name," like it or not. Yeah both have claim to it, but seeing as how Kuai liang only took the name to "honor his bother and find his killer." There's nothing saying Kuai liang would have even taken the name if Bi Han hadn't been killed in a tournament under the name Sub zero.

And it's really annoying how opposed to change you are when the games story was setup for massive change and revision.
 
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AMES32 said:
I didn't take anyshot's? I use Sub zero and he's not easy to use.

Here's what we have to go on.

Scorpion, got kicked into a soulnado and was made The Champion of the Elder Gods and promised a revived clan.

Bi Han was kicked into a soulnado too. Why shouldn't we expect something like that to happen again for Bi Han? He could be absolved of his imperfections, revived and separated from saibot.

And there's one huge flaw in your Idea. Kuai Liang being a Robot isn't a wound that can be healed. His soul would be revived from the point of death and when CSZ died he was a Robot, the reason it might have worked for Bi Han and Scorpion is because they were both human when they died.

Not to mention that just sounds like a huge cop-out and kind of weak. lmo, They essentially gave CSZ the old Cyrax story. He was restored by Jax, I'm thinking they'll make Kuai liang human again but not anytime in the next game. I can see you are opposed to changing Sub Zero back but you've gotta realise this Timeline was setup for change. That was established way before MK9 came out.

The anouncer also says Cyrax and Sektor for their Human alts. It means nothing.

Not true. Saibot could take controll of the Cahosrealm and bring "Hell" to the realm and have Havik as his second in command.

You say I'm trying to find an easy out for Bi Han to be Sub again, but, you have tried to stop any change that would result in Kuai liang not being subzero anymore. Kuai liang isn't the one with the fanbase, Subzero as a character is the one with the fan base. It used to be just die hard long time fans that knew two different people played subzero. Plus I'm just taking what has already happend and changing around characters and the outcome possibilities. Much like MK9 did. I'm not making up completely new stuff that give's me the results I want. And dude if you wanna get technical 3 different Sub Zero's where in mk9 Bi Han, Kuai Liang, and Cyber Sub Zero. You want major change but refuse any kind of Change to your favorite Character? you have to give somewhere.
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THIS.

Especially the bolded part. Sub-Zero's conversion into Cyber Sub-Zero was more than skin deep; he is a cyborg now, there's no turning back at least for now. The fact that the image we saw of Sub-Zero's soul was of his cyber version should pretty much prove that to peeps.

And about the part where you say that it was established that things would change in the new timeline long before MK9 came out, that is true as well. Eyebrows himself even hinted at Sub-Zero becoming a cyborg right around when the game was first revealed, saying something along the lines of "you might see a character that wasn't a cyborg before become one now". So, to those saying that Cyber Sub-Zero was a tacked on/half-assed decision, this pretty much proves that this isn't true since they've been planning this since the beginning
 
AMES32 said:
Scorpion, got kicked into a soulnado and was made The Champion of the Elder Gods and promised a revived clan.

Bi Han was kicked into a soulnado too. Why shouldn't we expect something like that to happen again for Bi Han? He could be absolved of his imperfections, revived and separated from saibot.

And there's one huge flaw in your Idea. Kuai Liang being a Robot isn't a wound that can be healed. His soul would be revived from the point of death and when CSZ died he was a Robot, the reason it might have worked for Bi Han and Scorpion is because they were both human when they died.


The anouncer also says Cyrax and Sektor for their Human alts. It means nothing.

Saibot could take control of the Cahosrealm and bring "Hell" to the realm and have Havik as his second in command.
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AMES32 said:
I'm not saying have scorpion be thrown in one in this timeline. What I'm saying is take what happened to Scorpion. remove him input Bi Han. So In this timeline it would still only happen to "ONE" kombatant.

You said it "The soulnado rips people apart," Bi Han from Saibot. And I'm not sure but I think the soulnado ripping Scorpion apart isn't canon, seeing as how in the story it placed him in front of the Elder Gods.
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I agree with both of these points especially with the bolded parts.
Ed Goodman even said that "One is Noob, the other is Saibot." a while back

Noob Saibot could easily be 2 souls in 1 body, which would explain the other soul coming out (Saibot), when he does his special moves and fatalities.
With 2 souls sharing 1 body, they could have been separated from the body, and thus the possibility is there for Saibot to exist without Bi-Han.

It's kind of hard for Kuai-Liang to come back human, without NRS retconning the whole cyborg story from MK9.
I'm not saying it isn't possible, but it just doesn't seem probable to me.
 
It'd be interresting to have this rumored character from MK2 named Emerald. Since Jade is dead, this female green ninja can replace her in MK10. Also, there is a chance for Hydro and Tremor to appear in MK10.
 
Nasty_Freak said:
Also, there is a chance for Hydro and Tremor to appear in MK10.
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Tremor, as a SELECTABLE character in an MK game, is what I've hoping to see for the last 15 years, but I know that Ed Goodman hates him.
I have a bad feeling that the closest we'll get to seeing Tremor is in the MK9 PS Vita Challenge Tower. :(
 
Some of you guys kill me with the CHANGE! CHANGE! CHANGE! thing you got going on. You realize that taking Bi-Han and making him fight for the elder gods is not change right? It's just copy/paste Scorpion's story. Yet you scream for change. OH Lawdy ya'll is knew they'd be change this time. Ya'll should have seen this uh coming. The thing is nothing was really changed, and the changes you are throwing out Ames are not change. They are copy/paste. Hell, I've even said I'm not so opposed to change, I've even said there doesn't have to be a human Sub-Zero next game. There doesn't either. Kuai Liang is still Sub-Zero and if the heroes get revived he will still be Sub-Zero just as a cyborg.

I swear to God you guys will sh** yourself if in the next game they show their souls in the netherrealm and Kuai Liang is human. You would drop the way you act like him being cyborg is permanent of permanent. Every time someone says well he could be revived as a human or Sareena could help him turn human or ANY WAY for him to become human or even be Sub-Zero period is just a cop out. That's another word I've heard so many times it's not even funny. COP OUT, COP OUT, COP OUT. I'm pretty sure if they want to make him human again in the next game it won't be that much of a cop out. He's dead guys, and just because his soul was shown as a cyborg does not mean he could not be brought back as a human. Hell most people agree the reason they killed him is so that he could be brought back human, but you guys sing such a different tune. HE'S DEAD. Him coming back either as a cyborg or human Sub-Zero is more likely than Noob Saibot getting magically split into two people. Like I said Noob Saibot said Quan Chi perfected ME, not Quan Chi perfected US.

You're attitudes just seriously have me worried because you act like they can't bring him back at all, but history shows they can, and most likely will. Also, You said it AMES. Who's to say the next game won't span three games (4, DA, and D). If that happens it's even more likely that he will return and there will be both Cyber and Human Subz again. Because by the end of the MK4 section he will most likely be revived and human.

Ways:
1. Kuai Liang doesn't have to be HUMAN ever again. They could just give a human alt.
2. Say he does get revived and finds the cryoarmor. It spoke to him the last time, maybe it has some abilities we don't know.
3. The Dragon medallion. Perhaps the souls of those who wore the medallion before could help revive him to being human.
4. Sareena could revive Sub-Zero even if it's not to his fully human state.
5. If you look at Cyber Sub-Zero damaged, all of his insideds are still in tact. The metal is basically just his skin. So if he did enter Quan's innter sanctum it would essentially be like healing one big flesh wound. It could transform him right back to human.

You say it can't happen because it would just be a cop out, but it's not a cop out. It's just you ignoring anything that could happen to bring Kuai Liang back because you don't want him to come back as Sub-Zero, you want Bi-Han and Sub-Zero but you're theory just lacks sense to me. Noob Saibot is Bi-Han. The elder gods should hate Bi-Han. Those are the facts. So, if this happens I'll just yell COP OUT too and that will automatically make me right won't it?
 
NRS could bring back whoever they want, however they want.
Even Bi-Han.

You have your reason for wanting Kuai back, and that's fine.
Even though I like Bi-Han more, I wouldn't be opposed to NRS bringing Kuai back human, IF they can explain it in a way that's not ridiculous
As I've said before, as long as there is A human Sub-Zero for MK10, I don't care which one is back human.

I was just merely explaining that Bi-Han being brought back via the Soulnado is another option.
I don't even know why I bother, though, when you're just going to be ignoring anything that could happen to bring Bi-Han back because you don't want him to come back as Sub-Zero.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
NRS could bring back whoever they want, however they want.
Even Bi-Han.

You have your reason for wanting Kuai back, and that's fine.
Even though I like Bi-Han more, I wouldn't be opposed to NRS bringing Kuai back human, IF they can explain it in a way that's not ridiculous
As I've said before, as long as there is A human Sub-Zero for MK10, I don't care which one is back human.

I was just merely explaining that Bi-Han being brought back via the Soulnado is another option.
I don't even know why I bother, though, when you're just going to be ignoring anything that could happen to bring Bi-Han back because you don't want him to come back as Sub-Zero.
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That last statement wasn't directed to you AT ALL araknyd. Not at all. I know you like Bi-Han, but you are fine with Kuai Liang too. You just want a human Sub-Zero and that's fine.

I'm simply stating the majority of people act like it would take a miracle for Kuai Liang to become Sub-Zero when he's still Sub-Zero. He just happens to be dead right now. That doesn't make him any less Sub-Zero though. Plus the fact that most are acting like this while simultaneously making it out to be WAY easier for Bi-Han to become Sub-Zero when in reality it's not.

I honestly believe that if Bi-han DOES become Sub-Zero again, I'm not saying it won't happen, Then that has to result in the complete death of Noob Saibot all together because they are the same person. Just like Cyber Subz and Sub-Zero are the same person. Just like Scorpion and Hanzo Hasashi are the same person. Noob Saibot is Bi-Han so in my mind Noob Saibot would have to die completely for Bi-Han to become Sub-Zero again and I'm not comfortable with that. I like Noob Saibot as a character and he wouldn't be the same without Bi-Han being him. That's why when it comes down to options of someone kicking the bucket it has to be cyber sub-zero to me. Noob Saibot and Sub-Zero both have much larger fanbases than Cyber Sub-Zero and so if one of them has to go it would be cyber sub-zero. Even though I would be completely fine if Kuai Liang has to stay cyber for a good portion of the next game as long as he gets revived. That way there would still be a reason to have all 3, but after that Cyber Sub-Zero would just be DLC or not be there in future games. I don't get cyber smoke now so people going without cyber sub-zero isn't going to kill them.
 
They should make 1 character with the combined powers of Tremor, Hydro, Fujin, Scorpion and Kano.
Tremor (Earth) + Hydro (Water) + Fujin (Wind) + Scorpion (Fire) + Kano (Heart) = Captain Planet.

Now that I think of it, Shujinko could be the MK equivalent of Captain Planet. ;)
 
Oh, I think it'd be nice to have a female pop star type of character. Someone Johnny Cage knows. Someone who's like Britney Spears. Like Athena Asamiya from King of Fighters. ;)
 
Metal Overlord said:
Hydro doesn't have a chance in hell of making it into MK, and that's all I gotta say (sorry if I sound rude but I just have to be blunt when it comes to Hydro)
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I thought you liked my incarnation of Hydro Metal? I have a sadface right now.lol. Nah seriously I really do like Hydro in the incarnation I described though. I think he would make an awesome DLC to test out with people.
 
Nasty_Freak said:
Oh, I think it'd be nice to have a female pop star type of character. Someone Johnny Cage knows. Someone who's like Britney Spears. Like Athena Asamiya from King of Fighters. ;)
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Really? Maybe its a cousin of Johnny Cage. If there should be a popstar fighter, what powers can she possess along with what her story should be.
 
Liu Kang, Reiko, Kenshi, and Mavado. I'd love to see their role in the next game. I'll be back on tomorrow to join yall's discussion.
 
Subz 711 said:
I thought you liked my incarnation of Hydro Metal? I have a sadface right now.lol. Nah seriously I really do like Hydro in the incarnation I described though. I think he would make an awesome DLC to test out with people.
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Your incarnation I would definitely accept, I just don't like Hydro in general lol but as DLC I'd be okay with him I guess
 
Revamp_Kombat said:
Really? Maybe its a cousin of Johnny Cage. If there should be a popstar fighter, what powers can she possess along with what her story should be.
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No powers please!!! Make her like have gadgets instead especially a chainsaw (she should be a pop and rock star).
 
Nasty_Freak said:
No powers please!!! Make her like have gadgets instead especially a chainsaw (she should be a pop and rock star).
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Okay. That'll do. But what fighters would suit these powers?
- Intangibility
- Astral Projection
- Time Travel
- Accelerated Probability - Prediction
- Poisons
- Illusion
- Exoskeleton
- Creature Summoning
- Dimensions
- Spatial Manipulation/Spatial Slicing
- Time
- Metal
- Wood
- Plants
- Gravity
- Ghost/Phantasm/Ghoul
 
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