Commander
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Well, it's what I want to see and this thread is about what character we'd like to see turn good, so no need to shit on my cereal.
Which evil character should turn good?
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Well, it's what I want to see and this thread is about what character we'd like to see turn good, so no need to shit on my cereal.
sub-one
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exactly! it's already been done, to do so again is hackneyed and repetitive. Plus, kabal is dead. Ermac's fate is unknown, so we can assume he will make an appearance in one form or another. The way i see it: Sindel is dead, Kitana is dead, there is really no need for Jerod to return in Ermac form because there is no point, meaning he has no reason to return seeing as how his wife and daughter are dead. Ermac has so much potential to evolve into a really great character. I just feel that his character is and always was more relevant when he was a villain. If he returns as a "good guy" the only appeal i think he could have in the long term is to be eventually converted into a "shujinko type" character. Meaning, he will most likely rely on the powers of other absorbed souls, which would still work better in the hands of a villain.
pgd42
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I like the concept of Ermac being multiple souls acting and not just one taking over. Whether he's good or bad doesn't really matter to me cause he's badass.
Noob-Zer013
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I was just making my own bowl by saying I wouldn't want to see that. :lol:
Commander
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You were specifically shitting on mine.
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You even quoted my whole previous reply.
Noob-Zer013
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I got nothin against your cheerios. I just like to ruffle feathers.
Tarkatan Trash
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I'm a Cereal Killer! I killed Cheerios! The day before that, I killed Froot Loops, and the day before that, I killed Rice Krispies!
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Commander
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Shitting on Cheerios, pissing on parades and ruffling feathers are all synonymous with each other.
Noob-Zer013
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I'd say shitting on cheerios and pissing on parades are direct insults. Ruffling feathers is almost like really soft trolling or playfully pushing someone. Anyways, get over it dude.
Tarkatan Trash
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Anyway, back on topic.
I see NOTHING about Bi-Han's character that makes him likely to be a good guy. If he were a real person, I would say he would be comparable to Aaron Hernandez.
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I see NOTHING about Bi-Han's character that makes him likely to be a good guy. If he were a real person, I would say he would be comparable to Aaron Hernandez.
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Commander
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I see him likely to be a good guy by making up for his wrong-doings and being the Champion of the Elder Gods.
His "Shirai Ryu Dog" intro line points at it being him, and either of the "Unbreakable" or "Cryomancer" variations could be him.
They're all the same.
Anyways, no need to shit on it.
His "Shirai Ryu Dog" intro line points at it being him, and either of the "Unbreakable" or "Cryomancer" variations could be him.
They're all the same.
Anyways, no need to shit on it.
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Noob-Zer013
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I see Bi Han leaning more towards the evil side. I also wouldn't think he'd change his ways. Between him and his brother, he seemed more like the bad seed. Being evil enough to become Noob Saibot, its hard to believe he could come back from that.
And you haven't shat on mine before? I honestly don't care but god forbid I do it to you.
Commander
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Please do point it out.
Noob-Zer013
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Could we just drop it, please?
Commander
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Bi-Han can be good if he becomes Sub-Zero again and atones for killing Scorpion, by helping Scorpion kill Quan Chi and hunting down the real traitors and killers of both of their families; the Lin Kuei.
Any character in the MK can be good or evil, if given the proper story and reasoning as to why. *cough* Liu Kang*cough*
Any character in the MK can be good or evil, if given the proper story and reasoning as to why. *cough* Liu Kang*cough*
Subz 711
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Okay I'm going to go ahead and say it. Cryomancer does not AT ALL hint towards him. There were people who were questioning whether or not the Cryomancer heritage was still even canon or not last game. Search forums if you want proof of this. The fact that Cryomancer is one of the variations hints that the heritage very well may be explored again this game. So, it doesn't hint at Bi-han at all. Unless you're still wanting to give him Kuai's story.
In fact you think Noob Saibot (the evil in him) should rule the Netherealm. The other half (Bi-han/Sub-Zero) should not only become Elder Gods champion, but then also become leader of the Lin Kuei. Do you not think that's kind of overpowering him? Like at all? Hell, let's give Raiden's godhood to him too. While we're at let's make Bi-han the One-being this time. He rules all of the realms.
The way you are wanting this to happen is just copy/paste storylines onto him. Just to give him the name SUB-ZERO.
Tarkatan Trash
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How can Cryomancer heritage not hint Bi-Han at all when it DOES hint at his full biological brother?
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Commander
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Last time I checked, Bi-Han was also a Cryomancer.
So, yeah, it could be either him, Kuai or a new Sub-Zero, but it doesn't rule him out.
Not really. Aside from your snide sarcastic remarks, the quoted part sounds good to me.:lol:
I'd to see a what if story of Bi-Han getting a 2nd chance to do right as Sub-Zero again.
He can't do good deeds as Noob Saibot because Noob Saibot is purely evil, due to the wraith that also resides inside of him.
Uniting with Scorpion to kill a common enemy allows for the hatchet to finally be buried between those 2, and it allows Bi-Han to take the spotlight as Sub-Zero for once.
We've had 8 games with Kuai being Sub-Zero, and I'd like to see a change, even if it means that it's NOT Bi-Han in MK X and ends up being a new Sub-Zero.
I know that YOU don't agree with me, and you don't HAVE to.
This is what I want to see.
No. I want something different for him that doesn't have him doing the same crap as Noob Saibot since MKII.
Subz 711
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Araknyd keeps throwing the Cryomancer variation into Bi-han's favor. I'm simply stating that people didn't know whether or not the cryomancer heritage existed anymore (Hell, Araknyd is saying he doesn't think ANYTHING from the old timelines exist anymore). The fact that the cryomancer variation has shown up though shows that story will be explored again though most likely, and who did it belong to? Kuai Liang. Araknyd is suggesting that Bi-han takes Scorpion and Kuai Liang's stories and paste them to Bi-han. He doesn't at all see how making him Elder Gods champion and giving him the Dragon Medallion (leadership of the Lin Kuei) overpowers him like no other.
Araknyd you say you don't want him being Noob Saibot, but that's his character at this point. You even said yourself he's been that way since MK2. Kuai has been Sub-Zero since MK2. It's kind of their characters. I WISH we didn't have to call them Kuai Liang and Bi-han. Sub-Zero and Noob Saibot would be preferable to me. However, every game this happens. How you cannot see that it isn't fair to fans of those characters to return Bi-han to being Sub-Zero just baffles me.
Do you remember anything meaningful that Noob Saibot did before he became Bi-han? No? I didn't think so. That's exactly what he will go back to doing if Bi-han is ripped from him like you want. Noob Saibot is a good character with Bi-han. If he's not Bi-han though then he's just another lackey. Plus, Kuai Liang would rot forever too meanwhile all of the other heroes are most likely going to get brought back to life somehow. How is that fair at all? People didn't like cyber sub-zero. Evidence? Human Sub-Zero is already back for MKX.
Noob-Zer013
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Another thing, the Cryomancer heritage was explored by Kuai Liang. If that style indicates it will be explored again, it would be strange to see Bi Han doing what Kuai Liang already did. However, its possible that it could mean nothing and just be the name of the variation.
There's really no need for Bi Han to be Sub-Zero again. It just seems counter productive to his character. He has been well established as Noob Saibot. He either needs to remain dead or actually progress as that character.
Does anyone read any Batman? Remember how many Robin's there were? Imagine if they all started swapping titles again. It gets f u c k y.
There's really no need for Bi Han to be Sub-Zero again. It just seems counter productive to his character. He has been well established as Noob Saibot. He either needs to remain dead or actually progress as that character.
Does anyone read any Batman? Remember how many Robin's there were? Imagine if they all started swapping titles again. It gets f u c k y.