tactics against smoke

Dedamn666

Dedamn666

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hi i wonder if anyone can help, ive been playing someone online whos allways smoke. What he does is spam you to shit with smoke bombs, teleports and a basic combo until you block, then he smokes forward and throws you or if you jump kick throw. I can usually find ways round things but this seemed impossible.
It seemed ridiculous as my experience of facing smoke i usually have to be defensive in order to win. If i try and attack after his smoke forward thats it, teleport punch, back to square one.
Help would be much appreciated
 
I'm a Sub-Zero player and when I fight Smoke I'm specially defensive. Almost every Smoke player that I met use that strategy: smoke bomb, juggle with the same simple combo, teleport when you release block, and that smoke curtain+throw if you're blocking to much. Smoke players throw a LOT, so much that I find Smoke's throw animation annoying because of it. So, what I do is block when he is far, and when he approaches you:
1) If he jump kicks, wait for the kick to hit and then jump over him and do a full combo(because if you're blocking, he'll probably try to throw you after the kick), or use and antiair;
2) If he smokes forward, jump over him and do a full combo, or just start a combo and you will hit him before he can grab you.

As for wake up attacks, he will either use the teleport or not use it at all, so test if he will do a wake up attack. If he teleports, block and do a full combo. If he doesn't do anything, don't have mercy and hit him while he is still getting up.


And please remember that this works against most Smoke players, but not all of them. Some of them are really good and this formula will not work again and again against them.
 
You have to bait against Smoke and punish. When you see him use the smoke forward teleport just dish out a safe 2 hit string to catch him dead in his tracks...If the Smoke player is really on the ball with controlling air space and likes to throw mid air, jump less. Dash block alot against Smoke in general and keep your jump game to a minimum. Baiting his main teleport is key though, block it and punish it, this should force the Smoke player to either not throw out the tele or really think twice before doing so, hopefully after a few punishes you'll just force him to remove one of his moves from the match :)
 
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If you are going on the offensive to close space, don't forget to dash block to avoid smoke bombs. Smoke isn't very tough once you get accustomed to his routines. Best of luck.
 
always block on your wakeup especially if he isnt right on top of you cuz hes gonna want to send out a smoke bomb.

bait his teleports, he loves to do them.

block jumpkick and a low poke should beat his grab on his landing.

the smokethroughs only avoid projectiles, you can still punch him out of it if hes close enough, tho ex smokethroughs might be different.
 
most smoke players are easily baited to use teleport, (i would like to say i'm not but depending on how frustrated I am I can be sucked in). the general tactic is to knock down and throw smoke bombs in the hopes that the person will be caught off guard. make sure you watch for this at all times.

also on the wake up attacks make sure you remember that while most are going to end up being teleports be careful with being too aggressive because smoke does have the vibration ex move which can get him a good knockdown. I use this move a lot as it works really well with projectile spammers as well.

the main key though is to block and punish once you catch his teleport unleash a combo make him think twice before he does it again.
 
Block and try to stay close.
Most Smokes i play against are cheap and don't know what to do when you give them some good pressure.
9 out of 10 times when they throw a smoke bomb and you block they follow with another one.
That's the moment to jump over, getting close and combo the shit out of him :D
 
- Bait to make them miss teleport
- Block smoke bomb at any coust !
- Block his 3,D+1,2
- Jump back anytime they use smoke foward

Be quick or be dead !! XD
 
Against a noob Smoke, no problem. Just mix your low and high blocks up and watch for the constant teleports.

In the hands of a GOOD player? HORRIBLY different scenario. I've noticed that they WAIT for you to act before they throw a teleport out, and grab like crazy. Just be patient, its very hard to be aggressive or offensive against a Smoke player. Keep your calm and you'll do fine =)
 
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Against a noob Smoke, no problem. Just mix your low and high blocks up and watch for the constant teleports.

In the hands of a GOOD player? HORRIBLY different scenario. I've noticed that they WAIT for you to act before they throw a teleport out, and grab like crazy. Just be patient, its very hard to be aggressive or offensive against a Smoke player. Keep your calm and you'll do fine =)
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All you can do is be patient.
 
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