Some things to think about to improve your skills

Critical-Limit

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Who are you? Don't advertise in here please this is a place of free advice/ help eachother out. thanks.
 

3mag5num7

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Thanks for the advice. This is a pretty damn good thread. This is the first fighting game I've started taking semi-seriously and it's taking some work. I usually play more shooters and RPGs, but Mortal Kombat has always had a special place in my heart since playing MKII on my SNES as a kid. I've picked a couple characters that I know their special moves, I'm finding out which are their BNB combos, and I'm slowly learning to string it all together. I can manage a couple 20% damage combos with a small handful of characters and I think this thread is really gonna help me get better. I play for fun, but winning is more fun than losing most days lol.

King of the Hill has definitely been fun to play in. I get to watch others, see what they do, see what I can exploit, see what I can learn and then I get to step up and take a swing. It's a really cool feature.
 

Critical-Limit

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Thanks for the advice. This is a pretty damn good thread. This is the first fighting game I've started taking semi-seriously and it's taking some work. I usually play more shooters and RPGs, but Mortal Kombat has always had a special place in my heart since playing MKII on my SNES as a kid. I've picked a couple characters that I know their special moves, I'm finding out which are their BNB combos, and I'm slowly learning to string it all together. I can manage a couple 20% damage combos with a small handful of characters and I think this thread is really gonna help me get better. I play for fun, but winning is more fun than losing most days lol.

King of the Hill has definitely been fun to play in. I get to watch others, see what they do, see what I can exploit, see what I can learn and then I get to step up and take a swing. It's a really cool feature.

That's a good attitude to have, Just keep up that attitude and try and fight people who beat you up good to get better. I know you say winning is more fun than losing but losing when you know you did your best against someone who is also doing their best at a "high level" is also just as fun trust me lol.

When you are playing the game and you don't know why you're winning or losing but you are, it can be annoying/unfun. But when you get high level enough fighting another high level, you can enjoy losing because you can truly appreciate the mind games used on you.
 

hyper_exPander

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just one thing, is my profile picture showing on the left next 2 this post, iv just joined and its not showing on my screen like everyone else's!
 

3mag5num7

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That's a good attitude to have, Just keep up that attitude and try and fight people who beat you up good to get better. I know you say winning is more fun than losing but losing when you know you did your best against someone who is also doing their best at a "high level" is also just as fun trust me lol.

When you are playing the game and you don't know why you're winning or losing but you are, it can be annoying/unfun. But when you get high level enough fighting another high level, you can enjoy losing because you can truly appreciate the mind games used on you.

Yeah, I saw your tip on losing to higher level players and agree. You can't really get better by underachieving. Last time I played as Johnny Cage I got rolled by Kabal because I was too slow to react. I got nervous playing against a group of guys who have way more experience than me. I learned that I need more games under my belt, the more I play the better my nerves will get. I also needed to learn the distance Cage's standard Shadow Kick reaches, I came up begging on that a couple times and got brutalized for it. I get stuck in my blocks sometimes when I'm getting pressured and I get a lot of health chipped off because I don't know when to push back or when to bail out and change position.

I kept at it with them and kept losing, but by the time I left I'd learned all kinds of interesting things.
 

FlawlessVictor

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true and if you read i never said i can't get round them, they just ruin a perfectly good game...main reason you play a game is to have fun and are you saying that a fun match is too stay at opposite ends of the arena and just hurl projectiles coz that sounds like a crap match to me...ppl who spam projectiles just ruin a match or cry like a ***** if you play as a fighter that can reverse like kratos' golden fleece for example.

How do they ruin the game, because you arbitrarily say so? You are still putting on the blame on others, rather than having accountability. In a fighting game you are given a set of tools, and players are free to use them. With few exceptions such as causing a game to crash, anything can be exploited. Using projectiles or any method to counter it is fair game.
 
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The_Reptile

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How do they ruin the game, because you arbitrarily say so? You are still putting on the blame on others, rather than having accountability. In a fighting game you are given a set of tools, and players are free to use them. With few exceptions such as causing a game to crash, anything can be exploited. Using projectiles or any method to counter it is fair game.
whatever man, you just have a crap attitude to be honest...what lemme guess you think you're an elitist lmao everyone has a point of view so why do you seem to think that you are better than everyone else.and tbh you're just an idiot coz yeah they ruin the game for me and i know i dont speak for everyone else...i dont give a shit bout you so just leave it
 

Jade

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whatever man, you just have a crap attitude to be honest...what lemme guess you think you're an elitist lmao everyone has a point of view so why do you seem to think that you are better than everyone else.and tbh you're just an idiot coz yeah they ruin the game for me and i know i dont speak for everyone else...i dont give a shit bout you so just leave it

Please refrain from insults.

~Thanks =)
 

mustbeh4x

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This is great! TRMK needed a sticky like this for all the fighting game newcomers!
If you're new to fighting games I would recommend reviewing the following:

1. Playing to Win
2. Domination 101
3. Footsies Handbook

Level up your game + fun factor! ;)
 

bmsirhc

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Since there's a lot of new players to the MK community, and undoubtedly for some players, MK9 may be their first fighter, I would like to offer some advice. This advice applies to every type of player, regardless if you're new or not. This is PT 1 - How losing helps you get better, and it will cover: "Learning to lose" - "Controlling your emotions" - "Don't label things as cheap" - "Playing better players"

Learn to lose:
On my journey to evolving into a high level player, one of the most essential lessons I learned was learning how to lose. Sounds simple right? The most basic things that seem simple, are actually pretty tough when emotions come into play.

"Losing is part of the game. If you never lose, you're never truly tested, and never forced to grow. A loss is an opportunity to learn" - Sirlin

You have to remember, not one single person can win every round, every match. It's just unreasonable to expect that from anyone, even from the #1 player in their respective game. No one is perfect, we're all humans, and humans make mistakes. However, losing is probably the best learning tool that you can have in a fighting game. Analyze how or why you lost! I can't stress enough how important this is. Instead of getting angry or frustrated when you lose, take a step back and ask yourself why it was that you lost. Ask yourself, "What did your opponent do? How were you losing? What could you have done differently? Why were you doing the things you were doing?", etc. Once you train yourself to do this, you will slowly stop getting upset after you lose, and start learning from your loss.

Controlling your emotions:
It's completely understandable if you get upset right after you lose a match. I get that, I've been there. It's better to not get upset, but if you just can't avoid it, it's understandable. What you would do then is try and let it go. The first step would be to not put too much emotion into a single match. Your judgement will be severely crowded if you're too emotional while you're playing. Try not to think about the opponents emotions either. Don't say "Oh, he's just messing with me", or "Wow, he's turtling just to piss me off!". Your opponent may very well be trying to do these things, but it only works if you think that's what he's doing. Instead, say to yourself, "What's his next move going to be", or "What is my next move going to be, and why". Now, these questions are kinda hard to process for a newer player. But you have to start somewhere. Just replace the negative thoughts into productive thoughts.

The players who excel the quickest and the furthest are the one's who can move past a loss after analyzing why it was that they lost. After a loss don't say, "Man, I'm so bad", or "Wow, I'm a scrub", "He's too good", etc. As I said before, just ask yourself the why/how/what, work on those things, then forget about the loss.

Don't label things you can't beat as "cheap":

When your opponent does something that is working, and you haven't found a way to beat it yet, DO NOT label it as a cheap tactic. What that does is shift the responsibility away from yourself, so you don't have to find a way to beat it. It's counterproductive, and makes you sound like a scrub. Your opponent is going to do everything he can to win, and you should be doing the same. If there's indeed a tactic your opponent is using that you can't beat, go to training mode! I realize MK9's training mode isn't great, but you definitely can figure tons of things out if you just put in the effort. There's rarely, if ever, a tactic that is unbeatable. So, try everything you can to get around it, defend it, or beat it.

I've also heard players label certain tactics as "boring" or certain gameplay styles as boring. For instance, I know a very common style that gets a lot of complaints is the "keep away". Not necessarily someone who is turtling, but a player who is basically running away the whole match, being very safe. It could also be a player who is zoning. You have to realize, your opponent main goal is to win, as should yours be. So, he's going to do everything he can to win. If he's winning by using a certain tactic, why WOULDN'T he use it? It may be the most boring, cheapest tactic in your eyes, but if he's winning, what would stop him from using this tactic? The only tactics that are "cheap" are the one's that are banned in tournaments. And as I stated earlier, there's very, VERY rarely a move or tactic that is so good that it's banned in a tournament. So basically, anything that's tournament legal, you shouldn't be complaining about.

I've told this to players before, and a lot of the time they say "Well I just won't play that player who is using that tactic". If you're not trying to get better and just playing to play, I guess I would understand that. However, if you want to get better, that's the worst statement you can utter. What the problem is, is that you want to win. And when a player is doing something you can't win against, you want to give it a label to justify losing to it, or losing to that player in general. Instead of actually putting in the effort of finding ways to beat the tactic, it's far easier to just say that the player was playing "cheap" and refuse to play people who play like that. If you actually do want to win, earn it! Don't just play players you can easily beat, what's the point of that? You can just play the AI if you want easy matches. This brings me to my next point, play players better than you!

Playing better players:

By far the thing that I've done to improve my game the quickest was playing players far better than myself. Of course, I had to learn all of the aforementioned things before I could actually learn from losing to these players.

Playing players worse than you is never a good thing. In fact, in most cases, you'll start performing worse if you play bad players consistently. When you play easy opponents, you start falling into patterns. Patterns that work fine against these players, for any number of reasons, but don't work against better players. You don't play at your best, because you don't have to. You can just go through the motions, abusing things that aren't normally abusable.

Playing better players forces you to play better. It will force you to start punishing your opponents mistakes, because your opponent will make few of them. You also won't be as reckless against good opponents, because good players actually punish you for your mistakes as well. Where as a bad player would let you off free a lot of the time. You will also learn a lot from playing good players. From their playstyle, to what they do in certain situations, to even the combos they use. And as I said earlier, you learn from losing. If you're just beating up on noobs all day, what will you learn from that to better your game?


You will learn so much more from losing, than you ever will from winning. You just have to understand that if you want to improve. Learn from your mistakes, and try not to make them next time.

http://testyourmight.com/forum/cont...player-Part-1-How-losing-helps-you-get-better

Written by OJuggernautO himself.
 

aedanwolfe

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This is great! TRMK needed a sticky like this for all the fighting game newcomers!
If you're new to fighting games I would recommend reviewing the following:

1. Playing to Win
2. Domination 101
3. Footsies Handbook

Level up your game + fun factor! ;)

i searched both these forums and google for said guides, didnt come up with anything, what are there titles?
 
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