shujinko the village idiot

SOL-740 said:
What? Hanzo Hasashi? Shirai Ryu? What kinda Chinese nonsense are you spouting? I'm an American and I'm hip to the real story as told by the Emmy award winning and critically acclaimed series, Mortal Kombat Conquest!

Well guess what stiff shit thats all bull mainly because it does'nt follow Midways story of the MK games
 
Baphomet said:
SOL-740 said:
What? Hanzo Hasashi? Shirai Ryu? What kinda Chinese nonsense are you spouting? I'm an American and I'm hip to the real story as told by the Emmy award winning and critically acclaimed series, Mortal Kombat Conquest!

Well guess what stiff shit thats all bull mainly because it does'nt follow Midways story of the MK games


I think he got that from web comics. From what many people have said and seen... Its Hanzo Hasashi.

http://tabmok99.mortalkombatonline.com
 
I'm no Shujinko lover. :shock: *Who would be?*


He is basically Necrid from SC2 but human instead. *Since he learns mostly cheap moves from everyone*

I was just stating some things that he couldn't have known... (Ok so not knowing who Shao Khan was, was a little dumb... Seriously who else looks that big, and tall for a normal human formed person?)

Darn and I thought you found that stuff at my above linked web-site....

*the bitten by a scorpion thing seemed too familiar/exactly whats on one of the WC other than the name thing.*
 
Just to clarify, yes I'm well aware that everything I typed is complete and utter nonsense with regards to the Midway approved Mortal Kombat video game storyline. As you'll note from the dictionary.com link in my following post, I was utilizing a form of humor known in some circles as "sarcasm".

I was poking fun at pheonix's reference to Shinnok being Shao Kahn's father, a plot point from everyone's favorite turkey Mortal Kombat Annihilation, and also a plot point that is 100% non existent in the universe of the MK video games.

And in doing so, no offense was intended towards pheonix (a user I hardly know). The joke was intended in a purely playful and non-malicious manner. :)

I personally thought I made it more than obvious (not to mention exaggerated) enough that I was being facetious, but then I remembered: this is the internet. :?
 
I sort of understood where you were getting at. (I took no offense)

(I forgot about the whole movie Rayden=Shao Khan's brother...)

Well in MK:D in Konquest mode someone said something about Shinnok and Shao Khan are related. (thus I estimated, he was Shinnok's son just like the movie *2nd one* claimed. So it could be true... (Why do game CO.s make so many plot-holes? @_@
 
My intentional reaction is, even with knowledge of things he still goes and does bad things... Several of the side missions involve him KNOWINGLY doing bad things and still doing them.

Ah Pheonix, remember what I said about quoting from movies, avoid it at all costs just to be safe? :wink:

Strange but aside from that one comments on how Shoa Kahn used to be like Raiden... I don't recall anyone mentioning any kinda of relationships between characters at all... In fact Kitana + Liu are basically the only couple offically mentioned... Noob and Sub-Zero, Kitana and Sindel are the only two relations blood wise mentioned in MK storyline too.

Everything else is either hinted or mildly touched such as Mileena + Baraka.
 
Quoting movies when?

Oh, you mean the Shao Khan post thing?

No, that was along time ago when I posted that. LOL.


Anyway I went back into the MK:D Konquest some dude in Outworld said Khan and Shinnok were related.


Kitana and Liu was confirmed in MK4 Liu's ending gets the point across.

Noob doesn't really have the same body as before so he is no longer related to Sub-Zero when he was alive though he was.

Kitana, and Mileena are close enough due to Mileena being her clone.

Jade, Rain, Tanya, Sindel, Kitana, are all from Edenia no relations. *other than they know each other*

Kitana and Sindel are related as Kitana is Sindel's daughter stated in UMK3/MK:T.

Reptile, and Khameleon/Chameleon are the same species.

all Kung Laos seem related to Liu Kang. THe original was his ancestor stated in MK1's substory/MK2/MK3/etc.. *not the movie the game*

Goro is related to Kintaro since he is his son stated in MK2/MK:T

Sheeva, Goro, Kintaro are all Shokans, and only Goro, and Kintaro are related from it.

Cyrax, Sektor, and Smoke are all cyborgs, who when alive could have been related but it is never stated.

Quanchi and Shang Tsung are related to the sorcerers of that one place. *stated in MK:DA* No it doesn't mean they are related but still.

All Kung Laos are related.

Scorpion had a child and wife, they are unknown.

Shao Khan and Shinnok have some relation stated in MK:D konquest.

Li Mei is now spiritually related to a soldier in Onaga's invinible army.

Kitana is Khan's adopted daughter.

Rain is Khan's adopted son.

Smoke and Sub-Zero may have been related once. We know they were once friends.

Jade, and Kitana are both friends.

Sareena, and Sub-Zero have a relationship. Stated through MK:D konquest, and MK: Sub-Zero's mythology.

Jarek, Kano, Kabal, Kobra, and Kira are all Black Dragon members.

Mavado, and Hsu Hao are Red Dragon members.

Red Dragon members were once Black Dragon members.

Raiden is related to the other Elder Gods, hence he is related to Shinnok.

Fujin also counts thus Fujin and Raiden are related to Shinnok.

Noob Saibot, and Scorpion are both Ninja-spectors, thus they are semi-related in the Nettherrealm.


Scorpion has a person he wants to kill Quanchi due to the death of his family.

Judging by Khameleon's ending in MK:T I'm thinking she wanted to have a relationship with Reptile.

Sonya has more of a relationship with Jax since they both are Special Forces members. *Sonya and Johnny Cage isn't Cannon*

Shujinko and Bo Rai Cho seem to have a relation due to their villiage.


Moloch and Drahmin are species related as Oni.

Mileena and Baraka are Tarkatan warriors who seem to have a deeper relationship. *Who else would want a Tarkatan girl as their middle link?*

Kabal and Kira may have a secret relation judging by Kira's ending and whole story...

Tanya and Noob Saibot were really working for Shinnok. *Quanchi, Reptile, etc. Just really turned against him*

Sub-Zero, Smoke, Human Sektor, Human Cyrax, Original Sub-Zero/Noob Saibot are Lin-Kuei/were.


Kenshi, Cyrax, Sonya, Jax, and for a partial time Hsu Hao were the special forces.

Kano judging by how he acts, has some sick kind of twisted crush on Sonya . *I'm sure you know what I mean*

Ermac could be related to Kenshi due to the souls he contains in his body some of them might have been the ones Shang Tsung stole from the tomb of his ancestors.

Shang Tsung , and Shinnok are both beings that can morph.

Frost could have had a relationship with Sub-Zero. *See his face in MK:DA ending? when she takes the amulet and gets frozen?*

Kai and Kung Lao (Kai I'm not sure) are related to Liu.


Now some of these are hinted others, are plain out.

Not all of them are relations but how they fit in/etc.
 
^ Pheonix... That contains a lot of useless info considering your responding to my comment on relationships... I was listing offical relationships, all the ones you listed are speculations, misunderstandings, friendships and groups.

Of course friendships are a relationship... I just didn't list them because you can't tell the exact ones... Allies and friends are two different things with two different meanings, hence why I didn't list them. We know who is allied with each other but not who is friends. A few are obivous Liu Kang and Kung Loa for instance...

Pheonix sweetie, you have to stop listing long posts with information that is not needed nor required... Its why you always end up taking topics off topic, because you list infomation this way and there are misunderstandings and incorrectness. People try to correct you and you give them yet another post exactly the same and the argument continues. Listing too much info is just as bad as listing not enough. :wink:
 
pheonix said:
^Well fine be mean XP. Also I wasn't correcting you that movie quote post seriously was made along time ago.

If you want relations:

Raiden+Shinnok are brothers.:
stated in many MKhistorys:

This dude is very good you should check it out: http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/file/mortal_kombat_history.txt

BTW I was just pointing out relations/etc. Not relationships exactly, but more like something of that nature.

I know you were trying to be helpful and I'm not mad for that. :wink:

I'm sorry if that sounded mean, its wasn't meant to be...

BTW Ed Boon said that Kahn and Raiden aren't brothers... A lot of people who write information pages take the movies as gospel or include information from them... In fact the only clue as to anything about a relationship between the two is given (I pulled this off that link, BTW that doesn't allow direct linking):

Shujinko says he has heard many tales of this realm and it was ruled by Shao Kahn, this seemed to strike a nerve with Damashi as he said that Shao Kahn was once an advisor to the realm much like Raiden to the Earthrealm

Only time I've seen in the games anything to suggest the two are alike in any way. Its in MK:Deceptions mode as you enter Outworld for the first time. Other then that there is no mentions of any relationship between the two.

However... It wouldn't be the first time the games have adopted stuff from the movies. We'll have to see if this relationship is ever made offical.
 
Nope you are right. it says on that site that Shinnok and Raiden are brothers. *It says it in one of those begining long paragraphs which is as I looked proven cannon.


Edit-Also it confirms who Goro's parents, and states he has 7 children which I have also seen other places. *It doesn't say Shao Khan and Raiden are brothers... Only Raiden and Shinnok*


Anyway I'm not sure what to call Shujinko I mean if I was him and some "God's" wanted me to do something I'm sure I'd do it as to not get into trouble.
 
Goro has 7 wives not seven children. Wouldn't have thought Goro was the stud of the Shokan... In fact... Just scary.

I think Shujinko had too many dreams and ambitions when Damashii approached him. He was young, naive and foolish. He never got to do any of them. I think he was bought the moment Damashii said 'How about your friend, the one who likes the play as Shang'. If he had said no, Damashii would of just gone after another person anyway (who says he hadn't tried it on someone already anyway).

Though you still got to wonder... If Monster attacked Shujinko claiming to be the champion, why didn't shujinkoput 2 and 2 together...? And how comes after Monsters failure the Elder Gods didn't do something else? Instead they waited another 40 years to send Scorp's after Shujinko. But I suppose if you consider the Gods are ageless and one day is properly like one minute that was fast.

I suppose part of the reason could of then be put on the Elder Gods shoulders for not interferring... Yeah I know its their rule not to interfer... But this time, it didn't help them. But Shujinko is still the village idiot...
 
I misread it is says :

Relatives: King Gorbak (father) Queen Mai (mother) 7 wives, son


Gah I got to stop reading so fast.


Anyway maybe it is both the Elder Gods, and Shujinko's fault I mean Raiden couldn't tell Shujinko wasn't the Elder Gods' Champion... That has got to be saying something isn't right.
 
Could you quote where it says Shinnok and Raiden are bros? I have read that at least 10 times before you posted it, and I have re-read the story section. I have yet to see it say that. I also read Raiden's and Shinnok's bio's, and they say nothing about either. Please and thank you ;)

BTW, I still think Shujinko's a retard.
 
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