Shao's voice, announcer n Evo 2011

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Hey guys I was wondering what everyone thinks of Shao Kahn's new voice n the announcer n if this is actual going to be a real tournament games like Street fighter n make it to Evo 2011. My thoughts I think the new Shao Kahn's voice is pathetic n weak compare to his MK 2/3 voice he had epic quotes cant believe they couldnt get Steve Ritchie to resign with them. And the announcer isnt bad but not the dark n evil like in MK 2/3, wouldnt mind having ED BOON as a special guess announcer in the game cause he did MK 1, like have an option so we can switch.

Tournament - If it wants to be consider seriously n heard Ed wants Mk to be at Evo someday.
1- Cant have unlimited combos/juggles hits even if have combo breakers, Must limit combos to 3-8 hits only, tat was bad in MK vs DC..they never address it with a patch/update
2- Shang Tsung can't have his abilty to take away ur health n put it into his bar tats just unfair
3- Balance all kharacters evenly damage control n not favor popular ones like Sub Zero n Scorpion.

What do u guys think?
 
I think there's a thread for Shao Khan's voice already.

I am very anxious to see MK at a tournament level of play. I'm confident it will fit in at Evo and other big events. The devs say it should live up to competitive expectations and from what they've showed us, i'd say that's legit.
 
If the voice that we think is shao kahn that was shown in the leaked audio files is the actual voice, i will be really dissapointed. The announcer, seems to keep changing quite rapidly so i dont feel like i can actually have a fixed opinion.
 
I guess we'll have to see how it works out 1st online so they can balance n update it, but from the gameplay Kung Lao had a crazy combo that look like it can go forever which is not good.

Killer Ryno said:
If the voice that we think is shao kahn that was shown in the leaked audio files is the actual voice, i will be really dissapointed. The announcer, seems to keep changing quite rapidly so i dont feel like i can actually have a fixed opinion.
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Yea the voice i heard from the leak n from the Krato's trailer when he said 'fight' n 'fiinish him' was weak, can't believe they dont have the same Shao Kahn guy from MK 1/2. its like changing Optimus Prime voice u just dont do that..
 
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MKKing said:
I guess we'll have to see how it works out 1st online so they can balance n update it, but from the gameplay Kung Lao had a crazy combo that look like it can go forever which is not good.
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Granted that was a long combo, It didn't look like it had potentially infinite qualities. I mean, MK is known as a fighter for it's juggles right? There's no reason to avoid flashy juggle combos. In one of the MKasts they mentioned that some characters will have longer combos, in which individual hits will do small amounts of damage while other characters will have short combos in which each hit will take off larger chunks. I do agree that having infinite combos will cause some serious complaints, but with these "hooks" they've implemented for multiplayer i'm sure even if infinites appear, they'd be shot down quickly.
 
Hansplusmatic said:
Granted that was a long combo, It didn't look like it had potentially infinite qualities. I mean, MK is known as a fighter for it's juggles right? There's no reason to avoid flashy juggle combos. In one of the MKasts they mentioned that some characters will have longer combos, in which individual hits will do small amounts of damage while other characters will have short combos in which each hit will take off larger chunks. I do agree that having infinite combos will cause some serious complaints, but with these "hooks" they've implemented for multiplayer i'm sure even if infinites appear, they'd be shot down quickly.
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yea i hope ur rite even wen someone comes up with a way to try to cheat or spam with crazy combos it'll be fix, if u ever play MK vs DC online u'll know why it never went to a real big tournament, it had unlimited combos once u get caught its all over especially if u ran out of combo breakers n the stupid rage mode didnt help either. i just hope they keep an eye on it n update it on a regular bases oh n i hope they dont let u see who the other players are picking too like they did in SF4 hated wen pple wait for u to pick ur fighter 1st.
 
Them guys should slap themselves silly for changing the voices. It's just to damn weak and does not come close to the MK 2/3 voice
 
i think some of the juggling in MK9 is too much, i think 8 to 10 hits max is ideal, although it looks good i dont want to be juggled around by people too much and aparently in this game you can add lodsa moves together and juggle for ages :( i remember playing UMK3 and getting pissed off when people would do that combo with kabal you know the spin then the combo into the air then flying kick then lazerball thing, and smoke and ermac had one too and they would take off nearly half the energy bar, it sucks coz you feel helpless and feel cheated, i know we have the breaker now but still,,,:/
 
rocky said:
i think some of the juggling in MK9 is too much, i think 8 to 10 hits max is ideal, although it looks good i dont want to be juggled around by people too much and aparently in this game you can add lodsa moves together and juggle for ages :( i remember playing UMK3 and getting pissed off when people would do that combo with kabal you know the spin then the combo into the air then flying kick then lazerball thing, and smoke and ermac had one too and they would take off nearly half the energy bar, it sucks coz you feel helpless and feel cheated, i know we have the breaker now but still,,,:/
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I agree, its stupid wen u can beat a guy n almost have the win n suddenly u get caught in a crazy combos tat literally takes 50% of ur health. I mean they say its suppose to be MK 1-3 well then make the combos like tat n we wont even need the combo breaker n it'll be more tournament style gameplay.

gamemk said:
the juggling got ridiculous around 95/96 and it just all went out the window with street fighter 3. having a character get juggled to death is not fun. at least if you're going to have those long chain combos, make sure the damage scaling is right. the voice? yeah, i've said before--i hate it. it's dumb and it has been dumb since...yeah, you guessed it: mk4. the mk4 voice is retarded and ever since then the voice has been retarded. i don't know if steve ritchie was asking for too much money or what... royalties? i don't know, but it seems like whenever someone got dropped from midway it was about the money. so they probably got rid of mr. ritchie because he wanted more money, which he rightfully deserved.

there's all kinds of stuff that this game could do to make it the best game of all time, but you know they won't do it. regardless of what you think, ssf4 moves way better than what we've seen from mk9. why does mk9 move so friggin weird? why do their legs look so weird sometimes. why do they look so stiff? don't know. why does kung lao's hat bounce off of people instead of slicing through them like mk2 or buzzsawing like mk3/umk3? don't know. why did reptile have to become a lizard man in mk4, and has since stayed a lizard man instead of a cool looking lizard wearing a fake human skin? we can't trust mk. i don't care how many times they get it "right", eventually, they will do something to screw up a good thing. they always do. so prepare yourself...the train wreck is going to come. maybe not today--maybe not tomorrow....
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Agree, the juggling is ridiculous especially with guys like Kabal n ermac in the previous MK game, like its frustrating wen u think ur winning the match n all of sudden u get caught in a frustrating combo tat literally takes off like 50% of ur energy. As for Reptile yea i'm happy that they'll be an alternate human ninja Reptile cause he got stupid looking after MK 3. As for Shao n the announcer voice agree just pay the man his voice was epic n those quotes, some guys voice u can change n pple wont even notice but Shao was just unique.

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For the voice... If Shao Kahn is indeed the announcer, then i find it stupid if he has a different in game voice than the voice the announcer makes. And about the announcer voice, i have to agree, its not the greatest, but be happy that they fixed it up a bit. The "fight" voice used in the kratos trailer was the old voice from E3, the "fight" voice they are currently using is the one from the sound leaks. Also, if you wanna hear the early "FINISH HIM" and "FATALITY" voices and wanna compare them to the new ones, watch scorpions and sub zeros character vignettes, scorpions contained the early quotes, while sub zeros contained the most recent quotes, same as the sound leaks. If you compare all the current to the initial ones, the current ones are much better IMO. If you think there is no difference, trust me, there is, just listen carefully.
 
gamemk said:
the juggling got ridiculous around 95/96 and it just all went out the window with street fighter 3. having a character get juggled to death is not fun. at least if you're going to have those long chain combos, make sure the damage scaling is right. the voice? yeah, i've said before--i hate it. it's dumb and it has been dumb since...yeah, you guessed it: mk4. the mk4 voice is retarded and ever since then the voice has been retarded. i don't know if steve ritchie was asking for too much money or what... royalties? i don't know, but it seems like whenever someone got dropped from midway it was about the money. so they probably got rid of mr. ritchie because he wanted more money, which he rightfully deserved.

there's all kinds of stuff that this game could do to make it the best game of all time, but you know they won't do it. regardless of what you think, ssf4 moves way better than what we've seen from mk9. why does mk9 move so friggin weird? why do their legs look so weird sometimes. why do they look so stiff? don't know. why does kung lao's hat bounce off of people instead of slicing through them like mk2 or buzzsawing like mk3/umk3? don't know. why did reptile have to become a lizard man in mk4, and has since stayed a lizard man instead of a cool looking lizard wearing a fake human skin? we can't trust mk. i don't care how many times they get it "right", eventually, they will do something to screw up a good thing. they always do. so prepare yourself...the train wreck is going to come. maybe not today--maybe not tomorrow....
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Animation looks pretty good. SF4 doesn't move any better in my opinion, there are some good animations and some not-so-good (Ryu's light kick bleh). Kung Lao's hat doesn't always bounce off. I guess the enhanced version has the buzz-saw effect. I think Reptiles new costume is ****ing amazing, but for those who want to kick it old school the classic costume is available as well.

And as far as combos go I don't know what to tell you. MK2 combos get old fast.

MKKing said:
I agree, its stupid wen u can beat a guy n almost have the win n suddenly u get caught in a crazy combos tat literally takes 50% of ur health. I mean they say its suppose to be MK 1-3 well then make the combos like tat n we wont even need the combo breaker n it'll be more tournament style gameplay.
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Sounds like you need to work on your defense yo.
 
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Long juggle combos are what makes UMK3 an intense game if your playing a good opponent, one **** up and a quarter of your health is gone. It craves perfection and if you don't deliver you get punished (considering your opponent is good). You gotta bring your A game in Mortal Kombat, and I hope, pray, and predict this game will be no differrent.
 
MKKing said:
2- Shang Tsung can't have his abilty to take away ur health n put it into his bar tats just unfair
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I think it's pretty much become one of his staple abilities by now. I would definitely want to see it return, don't see what's unfair about it.
 
back said:
Long juggle combos are what makes UMK3 an intense game if your playing a good opponent, one **** up and a quarter of your health is gone. It craves perfection and if you don't deliver you get punished (considering your opponent is good). You gotta bring your A game in Mortal Kombat, and I hope, pray, and predict this game will be no differrent.
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This.

If you take away the difficult things, the depth gets considerably smaller. With Evo and other tournaments in mind, I'd say it's way more fun to watch the best of the best duke it out at a difficult game rather than a game where pulling off amazing things isn't so uncommon.
 
Hmm well the thing is the developers make the final call on the the announcer. Usually it's the voice director to make the decision but apparentlly they don't have one. The announcer is none other than Kevin Michael Richardson, the same guy who did goro in the first Mortal Kombat movie. It seems that if they couldn't get Steve Ritchie back, then they were gunna go a different way in terms of nostalgia. Apparently though, some people arn't very pleased with the sound.
 
Concerning the voice, perhaps this is naive of me, but surely NRS could find a voice actor that could closely imitate the original Shao Kahn. Coupled with audio editing, they could probably make it almost indistinguishable. That's if they were inclined to do so. The fact that they have been changing the voice is proof that they are listening to the fans, so why not give in to the high demand and seek out the closest resemblance?

This is all assuming they can't get the original actor for whatever reason. Either they don't have the time to carry out such a task, or believe they can create something better. I'm not overly concerned, but for me Shao Kahn will never be quite the same without the voice that defined him so perfectly.
 
jarvis653 said:
Concerning the voice, perhaps this is naive of me, but surely NRS could find a voice actor that could closely imitate the original Shao Kahn. Coupled with audio editing, they could probably make it almost indistinguishable. That's if they were inclined to do so. The fact that they have been changing the voice is proof that they are listening to the fans, so why not give in to the high demand and seek out the closest resemblance?

This is all assuming they can't get the original actor for whatever reason. Either they don't have the time to carry out such a task, or believe they can create something better. I'm not overly concerned, but for me Shao Kahn will never be quite the same without the voice that defined him so perfectly.
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I agree. But wasn't the guy who voiced Kahn a bit on the older side? Maybe he's dead... Or too old to care anymore.

Still, they could find someone who can imitate it. And then use audio editors to finalize it.

Just the other day I nailed the voice perfectly at the Christmas table. Someone cut into the meat with a knife and it bled all over the table. So I said "Fatality" And my cousin swore it did it perfectly. So I'm pretty sure SOMEONE else can mimic the damn voice.
 
Ricochetmatt said:
I agree. But wasn't the guy who voiced Kahn a bit on the older side? Maybe he's dead... Or too old to care anymore.

Still, they could find someone who can imitate it. And then use audio editors to finalize it.

Just the other day I nailed the voice perfectly at the Christmas table. Someone cut into the meat with a knife and it bled all over the table. So I said "Fatality" And my cousin swore it did it perfectly. So I'm pretty sure SOMEONE else can mimic the damn voice.
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Pretty sure Steve's not dead. Etheir he doesn't want to do it or NRS just wants to go into a different direction with the voice. They might not want anyone who sounds like Steve to do it because they still want Steve to be known for the one who originally did it.
 
Hellrazerhd said:
Pretty sure Steve's not dead. Etheir he doesn't want to do it or NRS just wants to go into a different direction with the voice. They might not want anyone who sounds like Steve to do it because they still want Steve to be known for the one who originally did it.
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I think going a different direction with the voice is the most probable reason. I'm under the impression though that most (if not all) of the community prefer the original voice. Maybe NRS don't feel it's modern enough for this game, but if they are trying to please the fans, I'd think it be easier to have someone imitate it rather than carefully tweaking away at an alternative, which may never be fully accepted.
 
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