radien good or evil

problem here

1. This is supposed to be in art forum

2. you have to get permission from a mod to hose a contest.

So mainly it's kinda useless you post that. No offense man :roll:
 
this is annoying first you posted for a contest, then sub zero or scorpion and now this. Please decide on a topic and just make a new one and since it's in the MKD section then yes Raiden is evil in that game.
 
He is good. he has just lost his patience with Earth Realm due to the whole shujinko thing. (He is still good just really pissed off!)

If he was evil he wouldn't try to help Earth Realm and would work for the bad guys...
 
He doesn't like most of the bad guys. :wink:

Shoa Kahn - been fighting him for ages.
Shinnok - Big clash with him twice.
Onaga - Tried to kill him and failed.

You can be evil and still fight on the side of good BTW. But your means will never justify your cause. I think that has what Raiden has become. He is still fighting on good side, hence his alignment, but his actions are no longer justified by a good soul.

For example. A murderer could be driven by a good cause, taking out people who put others lives at risk. But if in the process he kills a lot of people, he is evil. So long as he does things for the better cause he could be considered on the side of good, but he himself will never be good. Its all how you look at certain things really. :?

I read that evil Raiden is in MK:Arm. I hope that they will make him good if that is the case. I don't want Raiden stuck forever evil. :?
 
You've said it best Angel. Exactly what I was going to say. The Punisher is a good example I think. Yea though, I prefer old Raiden not this new one.
 
In MK:D Raiden is good. not evil. *not even at the basis of evil all he wants is Onaga, and Shujinko dead* He is just going to make the mortals work for defending their realm or destroy them. *in other words he is very pissed over what happened*

The only person he wants dead is Shao Khan, Shinnok, Onaga, and Shujinko for unleashing Shinnok, and Onaga. (the reason I put Shinnok because in that one side-mission you give him the amulet which helped him escape nettherrealm.)

Thus he really isn't evil. It is just how he looks that makes you think that.

If you are part good and evil you are neutral. Not partly good or partly evil it isn't possible.

^This was taught by Scorpion. from MK:DA and MK:D
 
If you notice the neutral charactes aren't driven by good or evil.

-Hotaru is only intereasted in keeping order so even though the dragon king is evil he fought for him. What he does he doesn't do for evil nor good, just for order itself. Order isn't really good in this case (because people suffere harsh punishments)
-Havik is the same. He serves choas so could be considered a evil person, but he is not. Hell he fights the Dragon king not because he want good to win but to disrupt the order the Dragon King brings to outworld. Choas isn't really evil in some ways, it brings ultimate freedom after all (at a lot of costs).

Neither of them do things for the better good or the better evil. Most of the neutral characters are like that. They don't care who wins in the end so long as their cause is served. Heck... They'll be on either side depending on what suits them.

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Oh nuts... I've made this topic into something you need your mental cap on really to understand. O.o'

Sorry about that guys.

I guess thats why no one has responded... :o
 
^Nah, he died and was somehow revived. Then he became pissed, and well goth is the new Raiden. LMAO.

The one being is Onaga though. He hates Onaga, thus he wouldn't listen/take commands from him no offense.
 
The One Being is not onaga, they are two different characters. READ

At the time of the universe's creation, there were the One Being, and the Elder Gods. The One Being fed on the essences of the Elder Gods. In order to defeat the One Being, the Elder Gods created the Kamidogu and with it, they shattered its consciousness, creating what is now called existence.

For eons, the One Being's subconscious remained in a dormant state. It is unknown if the Dragon King was the first to serve the One Being's purposes, but because of Onaga's hunger for power, Outworld was created. After he died, Shao Kahn took control of the realm and continued his will by invading other realms and adding them to the Kingdom of Outworld. Through Shao Kahn's continued conquests, more of the One Being's consciousness would amass within the Outworld.

Shao Kahn and his forces were defeated during the invasion of Earthrealm, and thus dominance in Outworld dwindled; however, the One Being had other plans in the works as well. From beyond death, Onaga deceived Shujinko into traveling the realms and retrieving the shattered pieces of the Kamidogu. After a lifetime of searching, the Kamidogu were recovered and with it, Onaga's means of returning to the living. Onaga traveled to the Nexus to thank Shujinko and then, he returned to Outworld.

Quan Chi was now the super power in Outworld; with the help of Shang Tsung, Raiden was defeated and Quan then bested Tsung in Kombat. Onaga confronted Quan Chi and challenged his power - the sorcerer was no match for the Dragon King. Even as Shang Tsung and Raiden joined the battle, Onaga's power was too great. Onaga retrieved the artifact he sought and now holds the key to releasing the One Being.
 
For eons, the One Being's subconscious remained in a dormant state. It is unknown if the Dragon King was the first to serve the One Being's purposes, but because of Onaga's hunger for power, Outworld was created. After he died, Shao Kahn took control of the realm and continued his will by invading other realms and adding them to the Kingdom of Outworld. Through Shao Kahn's continued conquests, more of the One Being's consciousness would amass within the Outworld.
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It also said Onaga was the one being in his ending. (Which you have to unlock it even states this) See his ending if you don't believe me. When the Elder Gods shattered the Kamidogu which gave Onaga the One Being his power, he awoke and the realms were created, he then became ruler of Outworld. Until Shao Khan wanted his power and poisoned him but not even death could stop Onaga. *His soul didn't go to the Nettherrealm also proving this correct.

And also that part is a little off Onaga is the one being who is the One Beings (sub-counciousness). You see when the One being was the only thing around with the Elder Gods they became bored and created the Kamidogu and broke them to shatter him sleep, thus he came back in the form of Onaga.

You see why the hell in Li Mei's ending would he join the Kamidogu and then become the one being, with Li Mei at his side. He wouldn't, since the One Being is one character as you said. The awake form of him is Onaga.

The sleeping form is the One Being which can only happen when the Kamidogu and the Sacred Amulet are joined to be sent to the Elder Gods, but it is also the key to fusing them together.

Also didn't you say Blaze in one forum was the One Being? I mean where is proof of Blaze being such?

Also it doesn't explain why Raiden would attune to the One Being. Unles I misread Attuned means to put up with/become a friend with.

I don't think so. Raiden was pissed at Shujinko for releasing the Dragon King who IS the one being. Why else would he go dark over that on Shujinko? I mean sure Onaga is powerful, BUT Earth Realm has always prevailed. Even if most of Earth-Realms warriors died. They still succeeded in the end.
Shao Kahn and his forces were defeated during the invasion of Earthrealm, and thus dominance in Outworld dwindled; however, the One Being had other plans in the works as well. From beyond death, Onaga deceived Shujinko into traveling the realms and retrieving the shattered pieces of the Kamidogu. After a lifetime of searching, the Kamidogu were recovered and with it, Onaga's means of returning to the living. Onaga traveled to the Nexus to thank Shujinko and then, he returned to Outworld.
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Shao Khan was defeated during the invasion of Earth Realm? Uh MK3 was along time ago. You see Khan gave up before MK4 due to Liu kicking his ass if you don't believe me play MK:DA the begining intro sort of states this. During MK2, and 3 Liu beat him but he didn't die.

After the events of MK:DA everyone though Khan was dead but, it was a clone and he was alive. Thus his appearance in MK:D.

Also I think you mean DA's forces. Khan was thought dead during MK:DA and all of his followers joined the DA. Thus it couldn't have been Khan's forces unles you mean MK3 then see the part above this. Before the quote.

Now it will be explained whether or not Onaga is the One Being in MK:A BTW I'll have to check it again most of that I know but I'm pretty sure he is the one Being.

Edit-From what I've seen he could be, but most likely isn't from what I've read. Through the whole MK storyline :shock: I'm still trying to not barf LMAO.
 
pheonix said:
For eons, the One Being's subconscious remained in a dormant state. It is unknown if the Dragon King was the first to serve the One Being's purposes, but because of Onaga's hunger for power, Outworld was created. After he died, Shao Kahn took control of the realm and continued his will by invading other realms and adding them to the Kingdom of Outworld. Through Shao Kahn's continued conquests, more of the One Being's consciousness would amass within the Outworld.
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It also said Onaga was the one being in his ending. (Which you have to unlock it even states this) See his ending if you don't believe me. When the Elder Gods shattered the Kamidogu which gave Onaga the One Being his power, he awoke and the realms were created, he then became ruler of Outworld. Until Shao Khan wanted his power and poisoned him but not even death could stop Onaga. *His soul didn't go to the Nettherrealm also proving this correct.

And also that part is a little off Onaga is the one being who is the One Beings (sub-counciousness). You see when the One being was the only thing around with the Elder Gods they became bored and created the Kamidogu and broke them to shatter him sleep, thus he came back in the form of Onaga.

You see why the hell in Li Mei's ending would he join the Kamidogu and then become the one being, with Li Mei at his side. He wouldn't, since the One Being is one character as you said. The awake form of him is Onaga.

The sleeping form is the One Being which can only happen when the Kamidogu and the Sacred Amulet are joined to be sent to the Elder Gods, but it is also the key to fusing them together.

Also didn't you say Blaze in one forum was the One Being? I mean where is proof of Blaze being such?

Also it doesn't explain why Raiden would attune to the One Being. Unles I misread Attuned means to put up with/become a friend with.

I don't think so. Raiden was pissed at Shujinko for releasing the Dragon King who IS the one being. Why else would he go dark over that on Shujinko? I mean sure Onaga is powerful, BUT Earth Realm has always prevailed. Even if most of Earth-Realms warriors died. They still succeeded in the end.
Shao Kahn and his forces were defeated during the invasion of Earthrealm, and thus dominance in Outworld dwindled; however, the One Being had other plans in the works as well. From beyond death, Onaga deceived Shujinko into traveling the realms and retrieving the shattered pieces of the Kamidogu. After a lifetime of searching, the Kamidogu were recovered and with it, Onaga's means of returning to the living. Onaga traveled to the Nexus to thank Shujinko and then, he returned to Outworld.
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Shao Khan was defeated during the invasion of Earth Realm? Uh MK3 was along time ago. You see Khan gave up before MK4 due to Liu kicking his ass if you don't believe me play MK:DA the begining intro sort of states this. During MK2, and 3 Liu beat him but he didn't die.

After the events of MK:DA everyone though Khan was dead but, it was a clone and he was alive. Thus his appearance in MK:D.

Also I think you mean DA's forces. Khan was thought dead during MK:DA and all of his followers joined the DA. Thus it couldn't have been Khan's forces unles you mean MK3 then see the part above this. Before the quote.

Now it will be explained whether or not Onaga is the One Being in MK:A BTW I'll have to check it again most of that I know but I'm pretty sure he is the one Being.

Edit-From what I've seen he could be, but most likely isn't from what I've read. Through the whole MK storyline :shock: I'm still trying to not barf LMAO.
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In Onagas ending he becomes the full version of THE ONE BEING but onaga is not the one being if he was then nothing else would exist. He is influenced by the one being.

And the part about me saying that Blaze was the one being was just speculation on what I THINK should happen in Armaggeddon no evidence and facts
 
Oh, ok. I thought that meant Onaga was the One Being... Damn Midway for putting it like that to make me think he was ZP.

Oh well we will find out everything during MK:A I hope. I still think Raiden is going to be neutral I thought I saw him running in that one movie on the good side for the MK:A trailor/movie... LOL.
 
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