Over-the-Top?

outworld imp! - what you need to bear in mind is the concern of mothers seeing their kids play this game, when i was younger my mother was gobsmaked when she heard me and my brother talking about cutting peoples heads off and ripping their hearts out! lol, so i would imagine this concern with parents is still around today and even more so with the more realistic looking graphics,

So when Ed says the game is "Over-the-Top" and shouldn't be taken seriously. he is just saying that because he has too! because theres a lot of 'thick' parents out there that fear that their son or daughter might go out and rip peoples limbs off after seeing the game.
Its totally understandable
 
rocky said:
outworld imp! - what you need to bear in mind is the concern of mothers seeing their kids play this game, when i was younger my mother was gobsmaked when she heard me and my brother talking about cutting peoples heads off and ripping their hearts out! lol, so i would imagine this concern with parents is still around today and even more so with the more realistic looking graphics,

So when Ed says the game is "Over-the-Top" and shouldn't be taken seriously. he is just saying that because he has too! because theres a lot of 'thick' parents out there that fear that their son or daughter might go out and rip peoples limbs off after seeing the game.
Its totally understandable
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Kids shouldn't be playing this game.
 
TedMoon said:
I agree with you 100% on this.

I mean, look at this shocking video someone made of the shameless exploitation of Sonya in MK vs. DC. It's absolutely disgusting. It's so bad I had to bookmark it to remind myself how awful it is. I've seen it 12 times now and every time it gets more exploitative.

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I agree.
That was so disgusting, that I just had to watch it over and over again. LOL. :-D
 
TedMoon said:
Kids shouldn't be playing this game.
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No, UNEDUCATED kids should not be playing this game.

I was 8 when MK first came out and I was raised properly with the knowledge that this is just a video game and what happens in the game is not to be repeated in the real world.

Really ignorant to put an entire group of people in the same boat just because there are stupid kids out there who were not properly taught fact from fiction. I certainly didn't go out and cut anyone's head off or rip out their throat. If some stupid kid decides to do it, it's not the fault of the game, it's the fault of the parents for not teaching the kid what is right and wrong and the fault of the kid for not using common sense.
 
Why are you coming here and saying that rocky? Why would parents care about this game having serious fatalities when there are realistic games where you can go around and kill anyone? It is because of people like you that the producers are all cautious on having the fatalities very serious when they could get off on that especially in the US. Look at God of War 3 and how all the kills on the gods are way more serious then any of the kills in the MK games, where are the concerned parents at? You are part of the problem as to why the producers are being cautious when they do not need to be that cautious these days.
 
Ed Boon already said in one of the interview videos a while back that the game is obviously going to have a much darker, serious tone to it but the violence and fatalities are so rediculous that it makes them kind of funny. I can see what hes talking about, especially when watching fatalities like johnny cage's head punch and torso rip. Its over the top and funny in a tongue in cheek kind of way. Just by judging whats been presented so far, i dont think we have anything to worry about; it looks to be by far the most serious mk yet.

p.s. idk if there is a thread for the subject of violence in video games but if not, it would be an interesting one to start. Its kind of getting off topic in this thread though
 
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TedMoon said:
Kids shouldn't be playing this game.
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Excuse me? Buddy ive been playing MK since i was 4 freaking years old, for you to say kids shouldn't be playing this game is pure ignorance on your part. I bet your reasoning is because children shouldnt be exposed to such violence. Well, like Jade said before me, it is up to the parents and the child in some ways to be taught and know the difference between fact and fiction. If your child cannot differentiate that, dont let him play, just because your/one child cant handle it, doesnt mean you have to ruin it for all the sane children. Bottom line is that ignorant ass parents have ruined the gaming industry's freedom because their dumbass kids do something stupid from the result of playing video games. That is YOUR fault as a parent if that happens, and it is the kid's fault too in some ways.
 
XxJadexX said:
No, UNEDUCATED kids should not be playing this game.

I was 8 when MK first came out and I was raised properly with the knowledge that this is just a video game and what happens in the game is not to be repeated in the real world.

Really ignorant to put an entire group of people in the same boat just because there are stupid kids out there who were not properly taught fact from fiction. I certainly didn't go out and cut anyone's head off or rip out their throat. If some stupid kid decides to do it, it's not the fault of the game, it's the fault of the parents for not teaching the kid what is right and wrong and the fault of the kid for not using common sense.
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Yaaaaaay, for common sense.
I agree 100% with you, XxJadexX.

I was 11 when MK 1 hit home consoles.
My mom didn't mind me playing MK back then, because she knew that she had taught me discipline, and the difference between right and wrong in this world.
I never went around trying to kill people because of Mortal Kombat.

As someone who works in the audio industry, I get so f****** frustrated when I hear this argument for music and movies, also.
Parents are just too damn LAZY these days to watch their kids, so they let the TV set be their babysitter.
 
I do not think that there needs to be a thread about violence in games pgd42 because there would be too many idiots posting about how a game will get the AO rating for um too much blood and stupid things like that.There are alot of games way more serious then MK so MK games will never have a problem.
 
XxJadexX said:
No, UNEDUCATED kids should not be playing this game.

I was 8 when MK first came out and I was raised properly with the knowledge that this is just a video game and what happens in the game is not to be repeated in the real world.

Really ignorant to put an entire group of people in the same boat just because there are stupid kids out there who were not properly taught fact from fiction. I certainly didn't go out and cut anyone's head off or rip out their throat. If some stupid kid decides to do it, it's not the fault of the game, it's the fault of the parents for not teaching the kid what is right and wrong and the fault of the kid for not using common sense.
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Taj Gill said:
Excuse me? Buddy ive been playing MK since i was 4 freaking years old, for you to say kids shouldn't be playing this game is pure ignorance on your part. I bet your reasoning is because children shouldnt be exposed to such violence. Well, like Jade said before me, it is up to the parents and the child in some ways to be taught and know the difference between fact and fiction. If your child cannot differentiate that, dont let him play, just because your/one child cant handle it, doesnt mean you have to ruin it for all the sane children. Bottom line is that ignorant ass parents have ruined the gaming industry's freedom because their dumbass kids do something stupid from the result of playing video games. That is YOUR fault as a parent if that happens, and it is the kid's fault too in some ways.
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Those irrelevant rants have nothing to do with the simple observation I made. I was replying to Rocky who said:

'what you need to bear in mind is the concern of mothers seeing their kids play this game, when i was younger my mother was gobsmaked when she heard me and my brother talking about cutting peoples heads off and ripping their hearts out! lol, so i would imagine this concern with parents is still around today and even more so with the more realistic looking graphics,'

Technically kids should not be playing this game so NRS aren't going to sit and base what goes on in their game around how mothers of young children might feel. If they go for an 'M' rating, they will base what goes on in the game around making it as mature as possible, stopping short of material that would make it 'AO'. Mothers of young children and their feelings don't come into it so his point isn't valid.
 
TedMoon said:
Those irrelevant rants have nothing to do with the simple observation I made. I was replying to Rocky who said:

'what you need to bear in mind is the concern of mothers seeing their kids play this game, when i was younger my mother was gobsmaked when she heard me and my brother talking about cutting peoples heads off and ripping their hearts out! lol, so i would imagine this concern with parents is still around today and even more so with the more realistic looking graphics,'

Technically kids should not be playing this game so NRS aren't going to sit and base what goes on in their game around how mothers of young children might feel. If they go for an 'M' rating, they will base what goes on in the game around making it as mature as possible, stopping short of material that would make it 'AO'. Mothers of young children and their feelings don't come into it so his point isn't valid.
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They aren't irrelevant at all. 'Kids technically shouldn't play this game' is nothing more than your opinion on the matter, not an actual fact. If a kid is taught properly, they will be smart enough to play this game and not get stupid over it. The majority of posters in this forum are fairly young and the older crowd started playing it at a young age. None if us are sitting in jail on life terms because we played MK and then went out and ripped someone's heart out.

Age is just a number. There are some pretty stupid adults out there and some pretty smart kids out there so basing things around the fact that someone is a young kid is something I don't agree with.
 
savage17 said:
I do not think that there needs to be a thread about violence in games pgd42 because there would be too many idiots posting about how a game will get the AO rating for um too much blood and stupid things like that.There are alot of games way more serious then MK so MK games will never have a problem.
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read the posts, this just turned into a thread about kids playing violent games. I was just trying to take the discussion elsewhere since since it was supposed to be about the game being over the top. Not trying to piss anyone off, i think its all about parenting too but you can't argue that this got off topic.
 
Actually, the game being over the top with the violence and sex does have a relation to the issue of kids playing it and whiny parents who think it's too much.
 
I was 10 or 11 when mk hit snes. I played, I loved it. the issue I foresee is the same issue that was presented when MK was first released, the media and all of it's ranting about game violence. now I live in a small place in New England and I can remember that when MK:DA was released there was some kind of issue within the state about the selling of it and the local government getting up in arms to some small degree.

personally I don't believe that kids should be playing the game either. yes I know about smart kids and dumb kids. but the fact remains that this is an "R" rated game. kids have no place playing it and parents have no business buying it for their kids. case closed. it's about as bad as all these kids playing god of war or gears or even CoD. this is content that children need not be exposed to. no I don't believe that they will go and try to emulate the action portrayed in the game. but there are just somethings that they should be excluded from.

behaviorally they do react to the content they are receiving. whether we want to admit it or not. usually they get very excitable or show aggression or aggitation, maybe not in an extreme form but there is definitely some kind of impact it makes.

now I know your all gonna jump on me but I really don't care. the fact of the matter is if you weren't worried about some kind of ban or legislation levied against MK you would probably be in agreement. the fact of the matter is until children are excluded from the MK experience it will always be a tense subject. they just plain shouldn't be allowed to own it. see it yes, play it maybe, own it, no. and the parents need to be aware of what they are buying their kids.

with the internet and the ratings system there is no excuse. know what you are purchasing for you kid. if you are too neglectful to monitor the kinds of content YOU are buying for them then it is your fault when and if something goes wrong.
 
XxJadexX said:
No, UNEDUCATED kids should not be playing this game.

I was 8 when MK first came out and I was raised properly with the knowledge that this is just a video game and what happens in the game is not to be repeated in the real world.

Really ignorant to put an entire group of people in the same boat just because there are stupid kids out there who were not properly taught fact from fiction. I certainly didn't go out and cut anyone's head off or rip out their throat. If some stupid kid decides to do it, it's not the fault of the game, it's the fault of the parents for not teaching the kid what is right and wrong and the fault of the kid for not using common sense.
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If somebody argues the point, ask them if they've ever tried jumping through the ceiling and appearing behind you.

Or shooting fire
Or ripping off their face to breathe fire
Or shooting lightning

Tell me how a little kid is going to punch straight through your chest to rip out your heart.
 
mk isnt and i believe will never be over the top, no matter how violent it is. kids see stuff like in mk games or worse in movies all the time and nobody really cares or does anything about it, but if its in a game they think that will do different things to someone. thats just plain dumb. like XxjadexX said they need to have some commen sense. there is more that leads to violence n killing n stuff in real life than a game of mk. theres always more going on with those people. the games get blamed for a few reasons. mainly because its just an easy thing to blame and most people with authority didnt have them when they were kids. there was killing and violence in people long before there was mk or videogames all together. so ya ive played mk since i was like 8 and im no murderer. and yes kids need to be taught whats a game and whats real. also not to do whats in an mk game in real life. if people are properly educated about this issue then they will know right from wrong and thats how they will know its not over the top.
 
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Hehe, I was just having this conversation the other day with a friend of mine. Over-the-top is simply a forumla that MK needs in one shape or another. Wether it be obvious or transparent to the player. I mean this game clearly is over-the-top and we've seen it. I mean Kung Lao shredding some one in half crotch first, puking acid in someone's mouth and then ripping their stomach out or running someone's face through a train as it goes by are examples I can think of but you still have that serious feel to it to where the joke is sort of transparent and that's pretty much the basis of mk.

MK=Over-the-top

Also on some other points, revealing outfits have been done in so many games AND movies that it's practically a given in media and has pretty much come to be accepted. Although if women start shooting projectiles out of their breast then there might be something to be worried about.

and of course about the age requirment argument. Maturity has so much to do with it. I mean if you had a kid who replicates everything they see on TV, the "intellegent" thing to do is to NOT buy MK or any game like it for your child. IF they seem well mannered and understand that in horror movies the stuff isn't real and video games are just polygons and shapes moving to your control, then it's a possibility that child can be trusted with games like MK.

I agree with XxJadexX on this. Age is just a number, maturity varies on the individual.

Well that's my 2 cents on the subject.
 
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XxJadexX said:
They aren't irrelevant at all. 'Kids technically shouldn't play this game' is nothing more than your opinion on the matter, not an actual fact. If a kid is taught properly, they will be smart enough to play this game and not get stupid over it. The majority of posters in this forum are fairly young and the older crowd started playing it at a young age. None if us are sitting in jail on life terms because we played MK and then went out and ripped someone's heart out.

Age is just a number. There are some pretty stupid adults out there and some pretty smart kids out there so basing things around the fact that someone is a young kid is something I don't agree with.
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Can you stop ranting about crap that has nothing to do with what I said and actually read what you are replying to instead? How you feel about children playing this game isn't the issue or the point being made.

Once again, Rocky said:

'what you need to bear in mind is the concern of mothers seeing their kids play this game'

Again, the point being made is that the concern of mothers seeing their kids play this game is utterly irrelevant because the game isn't designed for kids.

If some mother of a young child buys a mature rated game and lets them play it and is horrified at what's in the game and goes to the radio or local press to complain, what are they going to say to her?

You bought a mature rated game for your children, you dumb *****, what are you complaining about? Didn't you see the MATURE ranking? Kids aren't supposed to be playing games like that.

So, again, his point that the concern of mothers over their kids playing this game isn't valid. NRS are not going to make MK 2011 based on what the mothers of young children might think.
 
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