Online Leaderboards don't mean a thing! (MK9)

AXSR388

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Hey y'all, I enjoy Mortal Kombat. What I enjoy more is the online multi-player. And like you, I get a feel of both fun and competition. I also get anxious at the thought of carrying the burden of high-level play, playing with the 'big boys', and earning a spot on the top 100 leaderboards (Rank or player)

Well I'm here to tell you today that it doesn't matter.
Yesterday, I encountered the man who holds the #1 spot on ranked leaderboards on XBL.
I managed to beat him, and he rage-quit. He rage-quit, and not only did he rage-quit he sent me a voice message chock-full of yelling and cussing. I have here for you proof; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW0VL-xBUes

I recorded the ordeal on my iPod. Normally I'd overlook such a trivial misunderstanding with another player, but I felt that this had to be shared, a reminder to the MK community that - when you stare in awe at the leaderboards, just know that these people are human. They rage, they are vulnerable and they lose.

AXSR388, signing out.
 
The problem with the leaderboards is they reflect WINS, not record. So the best player isn't on top. You could have 10,000,000,000 losses and only 1500 wins, and be number 1 in the world, which makes winning percentage obsolete. Not a very good way to run the leaderboards.
 
haha thats funny. Thanks for posting that. What a loser. Even tom brady himself says online means nothing right now. Truly skilled players will be in the tournaments. And thats where im heading. To mk pdp here in vegas this saturday and sunday
 
Interesting. I haven't played #1 on there, but I did play #7 around a week after the game was out, he used Scorpion and I won pretty good. He didn't quit out so I'll give him that. He had like 250 wins, 40 losses.
 
While what I'm about to say isn't necessarily related to your incident (which sucks, I hate people like that), I couldn't agree with you more about the leaderboards, and I thought I'd take a moment to rant a little about it. The stats in every game nowadays is moot: Halo, Call of Duty, and yeah, even Mortal Kombat. Why? Because they either incorrectly label you a rage quitter, or intentionally demand that you rake in the losses.

Bungie thinks it's a good idea to punish people who leave matches of Halo Reach by banning them from online play. This is a really great feature that comes in super handy when my entire team bails, forcing me to take on four players all ganging up on me at once - or stop playing. The same goes if I don't agree with the odds of fighting against one person while I'm on the team of four; if I leave, I get banned. There's just no feeling of getting screwed quite like unknowingly joining a match that's not even remotely fair only to be rewarded for searching elsewhere by getting kicked offline for thirty minutes. Then when you take into consideration the fact that a teammate accidentally jumping in your line of fire has the option to kick you, wouldn't you know it, but that also counts as a leave and can get you banned. What an incredibly awesome feature that totally won't backfire in the face of innocent gamers!

Call of Duty is a little different, but games that give you losses everytime they instantaneously throw you on the losing team of a match that's only 30 seconds away from ending? Man I don't know what I'd do without that on my record. And let's not forget all the perks, contracts, and challenges that require you to lose and/or cost your team the match; like "Take out a Sentry Gun". Gee, how on earth could I accomplish that... unless I either A) intentionally suck by running to the middle of the map, shooting at the sky, and spinning around on the offchance that someone on the other team may or may not have the Sentry Gun perk, or B) throw the other team my sentry gun, and hope that not only it won't kill my teammates but that I'll also be the one taking it out. More Halo than anything, these developer politics are about as fair and balanced as Fox News and the only people fooling themselves into thinking these methods are a legitimate means of accomplishing anything are the devs themselves. Games like Black Ops that require you to lose or screw over your own team incorporate one of the most asinine reward strategies I've ever seen in the history of video gaming.

Now what bothers me about the stats in MK? Well, yesterday I redeemed my online pass. I went to play a simple ranked match - it looked for an opponent and managed to find one who (lucky me) was several thousand wins and a handful of losses. What better way to break in the new guy than to toss him right to the sharks instead of pairing him with other people his level, right? Well the obvious solution to that problem is to just decline the match... except for the fact that you can't, and leaving at the character select screen counts as a disconnect.

Now everyone who looks at my record can see the disconnect, and get the wonderful impression that I'm a rage quitter.

To all the million dollar developers who implement label systems like these without having a single person on their team with the foresight to know when, and when not to tag on that label I say thank you - for making everyone think I leave matches like a five year old. I mean since I already, undeservedly have those labels, why not start rage quitting? I might just do it all the time.
Way to go, guys. :bs:​
 
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You should havbe just fought him instead of quitting, who care how many wins he had, you can get better without failing, success come from failure.
 
You should havbe just fought him instead of quitting, who care how many wins he had, you can get better without failing, success come from failure.

I get what you're saying. I have no problem going up against someone who has more wins than me - I'd probably do what you suggest cause it would help me get better and I look forward to that. But going up against people who are a thousand fold more likely to kick my ass statistically right off the bat in a match so short I'd barely have time to learn anything doesn't seem like something I could benefit from nor should have deservingly on my record. It's not that I particularly disagree with you, just to each his own I suppose.
 
While what I'm about to say isn't necessarily related to your incident (which sucks, I hate people like that), I couldn't agree with you more about the leaderboards, and I thought I'd take a moment to rant a little about it. The stats in every game nowadays is moot: Halo, Call of Duty, and yeah, even Mortal Kombat. Why? Because they either incorrectly label you a rage quitter, or intentionally demand that you rake in the losses.

Bungie thinks it's a good idea to punish people who leave matches of Halo Reach by banning them from online play. This is a really great feature that comes in super handy when my entire team bails, forcing me to take on four players all ganging up on me at once - or stop playing. The same goes if I don't agree with the odds of fighting against one person while I'm on the team of four; if I leave, I get banned. There's just no feeling of getting screwed quite like unknowingly joining a match that's not even remotely fair only to be rewarded for searching elsewhere by getting kicked offline for thirty minutes. Then when you take into consideration the fact that a teammate accidentally jumping in your line of fire has the option to kick you, wouldn't you know it, but that also counts as a leave and can get you banned. What an incredibly awesome feature that totally won't backfire in the face of innocent gamers!

Call of Duty is a little different, but games that give you losses everytime they instantaneously throw you on the losing team of a match that's only 30 seconds away from ending? Man I don't know what I'd do without that on my record. And let's not forget all the perks, contracts, and challenges that require you to lose and/or cost your team the match; like "Take out a Sentry Gun". Gee, how on earth could I accomplish that... unless I either A) intentionally suck by running to the middle of the map, shooting at the sky, and spinning around on the offchance that someone on the other team may or may not have the Sentry Gun perk, or B) throw the other team my sentry gun, and hope that not only it won't kill my teammates but that I'll also be the one taking it out. More Halo than anything, these developer politics are about as fair and balanced as Fox News and the only people fooling themselves into thinking these methods are a legitimate means of accomplishing anything are the devs themselves. Games like Black Ops that require you to lose or screw over your own team incorporate one of the most asinine reward strategies I've ever seen in the history of video gaming.

Now what bothers me about the stats in MK? Well, yesterday I redeemed my online pass. I went to play a simple ranked match - it looked for an opponent and managed to find one who (lucky me) was several thousand wins and a handful of losses. What better way to break in the new guy than to toss him right to the sharks instead of pairing him with other people his level, right? Well the obvious solution to that problem is to just decline the match... except for the fact that you can't, and leaving at the character select screen counts as a disconnect.

Now everyone who looks at my record can see the disconnect, and get the wonderful impression that I'm a rage quitter.

To all the million dollar developers who implement label systems like these without having a single person on their team with the foresight to know when, and when not to tag on that label I say thank you - for making everyone think I leave matches like a five year old. I mean since I already, undeservedly have those labels, why not start rage quitting? I might just do it all the time.
Way to go, guys. :bs:​

I agree with what your saying, I honestly figured most people by now would know better then to take leaderboards in any game, any genre seriously.
 
Haha did it sound like a kid with a voice changer on to anybody else? Or is it just me? People who care about online gaming as much as rage quitters seriously need to reevaluate their lives....
 
I hate to tell you this...but no one with common sense ever thought it did...

sounds more like you're just looking for an excuse to parade your victory...


I was thinking the exact same thing.... lmfao

You goaded him into sending you a message, your full of it. Now I'd understand if he sent you a message after the rage quit when you didn't send anything to him... but........ lol...
 
I agree with what your saying, I honestly figured most people by now would know better then to take leaderboards in any game, any genre seriously.

I can understand people being frustrated about it. The idea of having your name on a leaderboard is something you'd love to run and show your friends, but a broken one is a bummer.

Online leaderboards are about as legitimate as those videos douchebags post of people "rage-quitting" MK2 when the only reason they left is because the guy uploading the thing just spammed Sub's super freeze over and over.
 
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That's why I enjoyed Gears of War so much. Get into a game that had a horrible connection/terribly stacked?

Just quit out and find another one, no penalties, no bans, no nothing.

Shame they changed it in #2....
 
I'm getting pretty high up in the leaderboard, and yeah, they are a joke. The more you play, the higher up you get ranked. That's pretty much it. I think I have about 12 disconnects or so, and only 4-5 were my fault.

Part of the problem though is the ranked match. I may not be the greatest player ever, but I'm good enough to beat a lot of the first time players online. It's got to be depressing for someone who hasn't even played a single match online to be paired up with someone who has 300+ games experience.

I've played with the same gentleman you did, and I too did beat him (pretty easily too I might add). If he's sponsored like he says he is, then I should really look into playing professionally!
 
I don't care for leadboards position, online ranking, whatever .... you are online and a higher rank guy complains about losing to you ? Good, it's fine being the underdog ..... let *******s with inflated ego just play with pressure and uncomfortable , shitting their pants with fear about losing for an unranked guy ..... a secured person has nothing to prove in a videogame match, only the weak minded idiots could care and give matter for this .....
 
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I think the thing that annoys me the most is that, when you do find a good player and want to play them a few more times, they refuse. Why? "Because I don't have time for player matches"

...

What!?!? I'd rather play with a quality player unranked (which, interestingly enough, is still ranked) then keep playing rookies in ranked mode. That drives me nuts.

Anyways, that might be a bit off topic. But the leaderboard is a bit of a joke.
 
Well in MK9 you can choose who you fight every match and also rack up wins against the same bad person, so records mean NOTHING!

Leaderboards are for no-lifers anyways.
 
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