I kinda suspect that...

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...in the next game, Sindel will be freed from the curse towards the beginning/middle of story mode, then towards the end she'll sacrifice herself to free the remaining revenants. I suspect that that's what NRS is holding up their sleeves for MK11 (story wise).

I mean, she's apparently an adept sorceress capable of creating wards to protect entire realms, so breaking curses wouldn't be outside her abilities. The only problem- How is SHE going to be freed/restored herself?
 
Quan Chi's specialty was manipulating the souls of the dead. Sindel's powers never was about souls at all. So I doubt she would be able to break free from the curse. Plus. she's still corrupted, so I doubt she even wants to break free from the curse.
 
Maybe I interpreted it wrong (so feel free to correct me if I did)....


But in MK9 it seemed Shao Kahn took Shang Tsung's soul and implanted it within Sindel (isn't that why she's so powerful?). Now, if that's the case, couldn't Shang Tsung come back through Sindel's death or some other sorcery of transferring his spirit to another vessel? And can't Shang Tsung possibly be capable of returning the revenants to human form? He does know a thing or two about mortal souls.

On a side note, I thought it odd that the writers didn't make Quan Chi's death break the hold/curse held over the revenant characters. Was a prime opportunity...
 
...or maybe NRS just wants 'Evil' versions of the good characters so they can go all Injustice for MK11 and have both the 'Good' and 'Evil' versions of the core cast duke it out. Even Raiden, the ultimate good guy of the series, has been corrupted.

Who knows.
 
MKXGoon101 said:
Quan Chi is dead. The revenants have no way of coming back.
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Oh jeez! You're right! Nobody could ever come back to life now. That's way too hard for NRS to do. How could they do something like that? They'd never bring a huge antagonist back. mm mm. No way. I'm with you on that.

theincubuslord said:
Quan Chi's specialty was manipulating the souls of the dead. Sindel's powers never was about souls at all. So I doubt she would be able to break free from the curse. Plus. she's still corrupted, so I doubt she even wants to break free from the curse.
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Also, doesn't she have Shang Tsung in her still? If she did come back, wouldn't she still have some sort of evil taint in her?

Jin Kazama said:
The elder gods can revive The revenants if They wanted to. Watch quan chis arcade ending
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They wouldn't. They don't interfere with affairs like that. That's how Shinnok became one of the fallen, because he interfered in affairs on earth. With that logic, they would've stopped Shinnok in his tracks when they knew he was trying to kill them.
 
The whole thing about Shang Tsung is still in the air. However, Vogel confirmed that he is still alive, he isn't dead. So what we saw in Story Mode in MK9, that the ENTIRITY of Shang Tsung's being turned into energy by Shao Kahn's hand and then empowering Sindel... it's actually non-canon. There was supposed to be a body left behind, though there wasn't.
 
theincubuslord said:
Well, partially canon. It's a good excuse to bring Shang Tsung back, but I don't want it to be on the expense of Ermac. :/
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He's way more decayed in this game -- I think with Shao Kahn gone he's starting to lose his cohesion after 25 years. He looks like he's dying.

Honestly might be time for him to bow out; he hasn't done much for the story. He's a fun character to play but where does he really have to go from here? Jacqui avenged Jax's arms this game. The only real hook is that he has Jerrod's soul, but Kitana and Sindel are evil revenants at the moment and wouldn't really care. Shang Tsung could have Jerrod's soul and still pick up that plot point later.

To get to the main topic: I agree that Sindel has a role to play, as it's clear Ed Boon likes her a lot -- she got that truly badass killing spree in MK9, and is the only NPC revenant they made fightable this time. I think it's more likely, though, that she'll be working with Kitana and will remain a revenant for a while.

The idea that Quan Chi was the only one who could bring back the revenants, though; no way that's the case. We can see in Kung Jin and Kung Lao's endings that there are other, if imperfect ways. Plus there's the Elder Gods who can deus ex machina whatever they want. In the old timeline people died and came back to life very easily (Johnny Cage, Mileena, then in 3D era Kitana, Sonya, Jax, and Kung Lao). They're going slightly more realistic in this timeline, but I still think there'll be a way to fix our friends. But after all they've done as revenants, will they be able to live with themselves? I found Kung Lao's ending very tragic.
 
Tanyas Husband said:
I have a strong feeling that out of many of the endings, Ermac's ending will end up being canon.
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Ugh I hope not. I hated that ending. I don't like when characters die in their own ending, with the exception, of course, of Reptile's MK4 ending. But that's only because of the terrible acting lol INFIDEL!! haha
 
Despite I've always been out and about with Shang being announced he was still alive by Vogel, there's been numerous endings that stated he did die.

So I'm waiting for Vogel to freaking clearify what exactly happened... Unless we don't count arcade endings actually be canon on things that had nothing to do with X.

Despite I don't have Twitter and I'm not making one for the sake of getting my answer immediately, I'll just patiently wait for someone to bring it up to him.
 
[MENTION=9251]the_pathfinder[/MENTION] dude what is up with your thread titles?! Would it kill you to put what the thread is about in the title? "I kinda suspect that..." goes in the OP! Not in the title!

:rofl:

Imperatrix Sindel said:
He's way more decayed in this game -- I think with Shao Kahn gone he's starting to lose his cohesion after 25 years. He looks like he's dying.
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Even if Ermac's body decaying is an actual thing that's happening, and not simply a redesign of the character's appearance... why do you assume that the decay of his flesh matters to him? For all we know, we could have skeletor Ermac in MK11!

He hasn't done much of importance in this timeline, that's true, but between having King Jerrod's soul and possibly having Shao Kahn's soul as well, this guy could become pivotal to any number of plots in a second. His lack of importance so far isn't an excuse to kick him out, it's motivation to give him importance the next time he appears.

The idea that Quan Chi was the only one who could bring back the revenants, though; no way that's the case. We can see in Kung Jin and Kung Lao's endings that there are other, if imperfect ways. Plus there's the Elder Gods who can deus ex machina whatever they want. In the old timeline people died and came back to life very easily (Johnny Cage, Mileena, then in 3D era Kitana, Sonya, Jax, and Kung Lao). They're going slightly more realistic in this timeline, but I still think there'll be a way to fix our friends. But after all they've done as revenants, will they be able to live with themselves? I found Kung Lao's ending very tragic.
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Kung Jin/Kung Lao's ladder endings aren't canon (yet). In this timeline, Quan Chi is the only one who has displayed the power to bring dead warriors back to life. That could change at any moment, and knowing MK it most probably will, but we can't just assume that other characters have this power, IMO.
 
p.W said:
Even if Ermac's body decaying is an actual thing that's happening, and not simply a redesign of the character's appearance... why do you assume that the decay of his flesh matters to him? For all we know, we could have skeletor Ermac in MK11!

He hasn't done much of importance in this timeline, that's true, but between having King Jerrod's soul and possibly having Shao Kahn's soul as well, this guy could become pivotal to any number of plots in a second. His lack of importance so far isn't an excuse to kick him out, it's motivation to give him importance the next time he appears.
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I'd be fine with that, too! I'm just saying he's a character they could write out after MKX without it being weird. He doesn't have loose plot threads going on. Jerrod's soul and Shao Kahn's soul could become trapped in Shang Tsung's custody if Ermac's ladder ending becomes canon.

p.W said:
Kung Jin/Kung Lao's ladder endings aren't canon (yet). In this timeline, Quan Chi is the only one who has displayed the power to bring dead warriors back to life. That could change at any moment, and knowing MK it most probably will, but we can't just assume that other characters have this power, IMO.
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I'm just saying Mortal Kombat has always found a way to bring back any characters it wants to bring back. The ladder endings aren't canon yet and may never be, but generally speaking ladder endings have always been potentially canon. That is to say, they don't suggest things that aren't possible. (Ermac having Jerrod's soul is from a ladder ending, even!)
 
Imperatrix Sindel said:
I'd be fine with that, too! I'm just saying he's a character they could write out after MKX without it being weird. He doesn't have loose plot threads going on. Jerrod's soul and Shao Kahn's soul could become trapped in Shang Tsung's custody if Ermac's ladder ending becomes canon.
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All right, I getcha. Yeah, it wouldn't be the strangest thing if he just didn't show up, and some new Outworlder's bio said "Kotal Kahn appointed this character his Position_Ermac_used_to_Occupy after Ermac wandered off into the desert one day." But I certainly hope they find a use for him. He's a cool character waiting for a story.

I'm just saying Mortal Kombat has always found a way to bring back any characters it wants to bring back. The ladder endings aren't canon yet and may never be, but generally speaking ladder endings have always been potentially canon. That is to say, they don't suggest things that aren't possible. (Ermac having Jerrod's soul is from a ladder ending, even!)
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Well, in MK9 every(?) ending except Raiden's explicitly contradicted MK9's story by having the fighter defeat Shao Kahn... but I take your point. ;) Shang Tsung could absolutely come back. In fact, I hope he does. He deserves to have a legacy in this new timeline that's more interesting than being the boss of the MK1 tournament in MK9.

I'd love to see Shang Tsung serving as Kotal Kahn's second in command, now that D'Vorah's gone. And, against all expectations, not be treacherous.
 
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