Mortal Kombat 11 General Discussion Media Thread
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Misucra
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Ahahahaha. No.
MK11 itself is built with mobile store in mind. What is EA gonna do about it? If anything I am hoping that they will start selling every single outfit from all MK games. Activision would definitely do that. Oh boy. This is the most fun news I learned yesterday.
lariat
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Damn first midway now Warner Bros Interactive MK and NRS can't seem to catch a break. I could see Microsoft wanting to buy them to get rocksteady so Sony wouldn't have the chance to. 2K,EA and Activision don't care about fighting games.that aren't UFC or WWE. MK's huge but it's niche compared to GTA, call of duty, star wars, and battlefield IP's. I don't see any of those publishers wanting to spend 4 billion during this covid 19 crisis still going on. Worst case scenario the MK ip gets sold again and EA buys it cheap.but I don't see at&t / WB's doing that.
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lariat
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I get that part but The deal is just for the development studios not the ips those are still owned by At&t and warner bros.
https://www.ign.com/articles/rocksteady-netherrealm-wb-sale-att-batman-mortal-kombatso even if EA or whoever buys them they still have to pay licensing agreements to make those games. I don't see this happening imo.
https://www.ign.com/articles/rocksteady-netherrealm-wb-sale-att-batman-mortal-kombatso even if EA or whoever buys them they still have to pay licensing agreements to make those games. I don't see this happening imo.
Xenon
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Can't stand IGN....
In any case this is still in talks. There could be other buyers, or if a deal is going to be made at all. If it does go through, with EA, not much will change as MK11 already implements most of the infamous EA practices: DRM; grinding; slot machines and etc. You'll just see it over and over and over and over, cranked up to 11.....Every single year. I do wonder how NRS is going to manage this schedule, considering they've already got a ton of shit for contracted slavery. Games probably going to be outsourced.
EA as of late has been in full invasion mode, all their garbage games are now getting piled on Steam. Surprised Battlefield V removed all of its SJW history revisionism from the storefront completely.... Too late now, fools :lol:
Most important here is AT&T and TimeWarner. How on Earth does one buy Warner, who was reported to make "so much money!!!!!!!", for 100 billion, and get a net of 200 billion debt, in just 2 years? I'll tell you how....
In any case this is still in talks. There could be other buyers, or if a deal is going to be made at all. If it does go through, with EA, not much will change as MK11 already implements most of the infamous EA practices: DRM; grinding; slot machines and etc. You'll just see it over and over and over and over, cranked up to 11.....Every single year. I do wonder how NRS is going to manage this schedule, considering they've already got a ton of shit for contracted slavery. Games probably going to be outsourced.
EA as of late has been in full invasion mode, all their garbage games are now getting piled on Steam. Surprised Battlefield V removed all of its SJW history revisionism from the storefront completely.... Too late now, fools :lol:
Most important here is AT&T and TimeWarner. How on Earth does one buy Warner, who was reported to make "so much money!!!!!!!", for 100 billion, and get a net of 200 billion debt, in just 2 years? I'll tell you how....
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Nickolaidas
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MK11's current 'store' can be completely bypassed and you can get all the stuff it sells for game currency. How in the living flying Fk is it better to see EA selling dozens of costumes and skins in the in-game store for real money?
Once EA get its filthy paws on it, all that MK has to do is fail to meet EA's sales estimates and they'll bury the IP and dissolve NRS, like they did with Dead Space and Visceral Games.
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Misucra
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I hate NRS. Not MK.
How many times we have to have this conversation? "YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY ANYTHING, YOU CAN UNLOCK IT BY PLAYING."
Did you know that you can also unlock everything through mobile game? They just inflate the grind so it takes a lot of time and then people get tired and just buy the skin. Why do you think they added 5 FREAKING CURRENCIES? One of them being purchasable for money? If you can completely bypass the store, so WHAT PURPOSE do you think those Currencies have? If not for backlash, they would have kept the previous grind system, too. No to mention they couldn't even do the store properly. You want something specific? You better hope that there will be a sale for what you want... SOMEDAY. The game is literally designed to inflate the time as much as possible for you to get what you want. Remember when you would get colors with your outfit? Now you have to grind every single color for that one outfit. Especially if certain color is locked behind some bullshit AI battles tower...
Now let's compare to how EA would do this. They would sell outfits, intros for money (I am saying this as Lootboxes have been made illegal in multiple countries and EA and other companies will have to use alternatives in the near future). Sure. Is that scummy? Damn right. But I get it NOW, while let's say I want that particular Frost outro/intro in MK11. Well guess what? I have to get 20-25 heads to unlock the room that has those Frost intros/outros. One head is 25 fatalities. So I have to do 500-625 fatalities to unlock the damn room, so I can get that one freaking intro? AND THAT IS FINE? How brainwashed are you with your blind love for MK? What do you gain from doing 625 fatalities? WHAT DO YOU GAIN FROM REPEATING THE SAME ACTION FOR HOURS? What happened to challenging the player and making him utilize his FULL knowledge of the game?
And that is better than let's say EA charging me 5 dollars for the intro I can get RIGHT NOW?
I don't know about your values, but for me Time > Money. I can earn money. I can't get time back. If I spend time on something, I better get something out of it.
Also EA would be more likely to give OG outfits. Maximize the profits after all. You want Human Frost? 15 dollars! You want OG outfit, instead of Burkas/superhero shtick? You want an option? 5-10 dollars!
In this case EA would be the lesser evil in this matter. Or even Activision.
Of course in the perfect world, you would get what you want by completing challenges that require you to utilize that you learned in the game. Give me a difficult challenge tower for that intro. If it will take me 30 tries, that's fine! Cause once I beat it, I get the bragging rights, I become better at the game and that intro will actually mean something to me, cause I had to go through hell to get it.
But now? Just grind for the sake of grinding. The only thing I got better at MK11 is exiting/entering Survival Tower while grinding for that one Intro.
Oh you poor sod. I am Dead Space fanboy. Pre-orders, physical copies and everything. I know all too well, what happens with EA. THAT'S WHY I AM LAUGHING.
I invested 2 decades of my life, to get a middle finger in the end. So you really think I give a shit anymore? I used MK to deal with problems as a kid. Deception inspired me to move on. Never asked for red carpet treatment. Just a good time. Instead I got shit from these self righteous, mature and respectful shitheads. So yeah. Karma is a b#itch.
All that aside. I really doubt EA will get their hands on MK IP. First of all, they are selling Gaming division. Not the IP's. AT&T can still keep them IP's and just "rent" them to other studios. Just like Disney gave Star Wars license to EA. Activision/Sony is more likely to get their hands on MK.
Activision will be annual MK games with more grind and more transactions. Sony will simply censor the game. Either way, it doesn't matter. Whatever happens MK will have to change. If EA will get their hands on MK and it will follow the same road as Dead Space? Oh well. MK had a long run.
Either way. That is just my opinion. I would be happy if MK IP left NRS hands all together and someone that grew up with MK took charge. Someone that doesn't push one freaking agenda, but understands that players come from different places with different tastes. Made MK about MK again and brought back the FUN aspect of the game.
But again. We all know that MK will be just changing one corporate hands for another.
Or just... we need a new IP that would replace MK.
Yellow Ledbetter
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Yeah, yeah. Going to EA is not a nightmare and WB is not different.
They are really very customer friendly, fair prices, gaming quality.
Also, sarcasm detected above.
Do you think EA works like WB? They would seriously put money into every damn thing, they are the worst of the worst. Most of useless time consuming aspects of MK11 that were changed after several complaints would be met with a huge pile of crap, we know EA's history of support. We are getting into a next gen where companies are trying hard to have a fair price, but we all know it ain't gonna be cheap.
People may not like WB right now, but to think EA is going to be better is a joke. People sounding like politics right now "the current system is not going well, so let's destroy the little bit that can be improved by handling the country into the hands of an unprepared madman that has no regard for people, except a very few, guaranteeing we will keep the same problems but now worse!"
Pretty sure they will keep NRS regardless, I'm more worried about customer relation. Besides, EA keeps going exactly because they profit, we live mostly in a capitalist system, they earn money, they keep themselves alive, fvck quality, that's not what decided if something keeps going or not.
They are really very customer friendly, fair prices, gaming quality.
Also, sarcasm detected above.
Do you think EA works like WB? They would seriously put money into every damn thing, they are the worst of the worst. Most of useless time consuming aspects of MK11 that were changed after several complaints would be met with a huge pile of crap, we know EA's history of support. We are getting into a next gen where companies are trying hard to have a fair price, but we all know it ain't gonna be cheap.
People may not like WB right now, but to think EA is going to be better is a joke. People sounding like politics right now "the current system is not going well, so let's destroy the little bit that can be improved by handling the country into the hands of an unprepared madman that has no regard for people, except a very few, guaranteeing we will keep the same problems but now worse!"
Pretty sure they will keep NRS regardless, I'm more worried about customer relation. Besides, EA keeps going exactly because they profit, we live mostly in a capitalist system, they earn money, they keep themselves alive, fvck quality, that's not what decided if something keeps going or not.
Yellow Ledbetter
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MK12K might be the next game.
lariat
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2k is too busy porting GTA 5 (Again...) to the ps5 to care about little ol Mortal Kombat. Why invest in new studios when you can pull a bethesda and milk a 7 year old game for more money?
Yellow Ledbetter
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I love TES series, one of my favorites, but Bethesda is reaching the impossible heights of milking not only by porting TESV even to a microwave if possible, but also by updating ESO with Skyrim.
The only downside of this, however, is that TESVI is rumored to be released in 2025. I mean, if someone doesn't want to play a game already released that's a matter of not playing. ESO is different, as it has been updated for a long time with lots of DLC and lootboxes.
I think MK series is, under the due proportions, to TES offline games as MK Mobile is to TES Online game. I would hate a certain shady group to make an inversion and turn MK into a money grabbing husk. WB and NRS are not perfect, but the current system they are working on is BETTER than the options.
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DO you guys remember in early 2000s when we were transitioning gen, and we had a game with a big roster that eventually killed almost everyone in a huge catastrophic event marking the end of an era and was rumored to be the last MK? Then the studio was reworked into another one, to a big entertainment group?
Doesn't this all sound too...coincidental?
Xenon
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Yeah. WB are not different than EA. They're both in business of making money. MK11 has already implemented most of infamous EA practices anyways, you'll be fine. Which ironically, I remember how NRS Drones were foaming at the mouth, defending Microtransactions/Lootboxes/Grind as "NRS/WB are a business which is literally all about making money holy shit lmao u mad bro".
WB are not saints, and in many cases worse than EA. Recently I got C&C Remastered, and guess what? 0 microtransactions, 0 lootboxes, no Origin, no DRM, just a classic game fitting the storefront description. Nothing more, nothing less. BTW it already sold as much as MK11 did on PC. EA 2020!
What if I told you...the rest of the world is sick of your dumbass American politics and doesn't want to hear about it?
Yeah no, this would be the case if NRS was going broke, with Ed Boon coming out on video saying "we'll keep making more games if you keep buying them.".
Yeah, not to mention they do have the money to burn. WWE2k20 should've killed any company and yet they're still there. The answer? GTA, COD. Plus they do have experience with fighting games, meanwhile EA and Activision do not. Activision does has insane experience with "don't you guys have phones?" though, so that might give them a leverage :lol:
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lariat
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I'm not sure if you're referring to MK9 but if you are...The only way that same senario would play out again is if Warner Bros decides to sell the MK ip off to a willing buyer. According to the articles I've read from ign At&t and Warner have no desire to sell any of it's ip's but instead rent them out for a licensing fee. (as I've already stated). Until we get some more info, I personally think NRS will continue to work on their current projects but I doubt we'll get a new MK anytime soon. Ed boon has commented that NRS are working on multiple projects (One of them is obviously injustice 3) but he also claims that they're working on a different game thats nether MK or injustice. I can't say NRS won't be forced to cancel all these projects if they're purchased by another publisher but it does make the situation a little worrying.
Misucra
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Yes. Cause WB is fair and doesn't screw people over. They release quality ports that don't require months of waiting. No idiotic microtransactions.
Oh wait! Almost every PC port sucked. Batman Arkham Knight taking the cake. Oh remember that Shdow of War game? You know, The SINGLE PLAYER game, that received MICROTRANSACTIONS? But sure. EA is terrible. Gods. How easy it is to bribe someone nowadays.
WB works exactly like EA. Empty promises? Check. Broken ports/games? Check. Single player microstransactions? Check. Have to wait months for full game experience? Check.
Still I think it will would 2K that is most likely to get NRS/MK.
2K is a publisher, not the developer. Rockstar is dealing with GTA5. They have the experience and studios that worked on fighting games. So they are most likely to grab a fighting game.
Best part that MK going to another company would mean a very high chance of no more guest characters.
lariat
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I never said 2k is a developer all I said was they are working with rockstar to port GTA 5. I figured most people knew that. I disagree that 2K will be willing to spend the money since they already make a killing off those awful wwe games and visual concepts developing them every year. If they did purchase NRS it would be to make a completely different game not MK, Injustice or anything WB holds the rights to. It would be the death of MK. I'm sure some here will say that's already happened but it not something that going to make this purchase a good thing for MK fans. I don't see any publisher wanting to buy a specific studio to develop a game that they have to make alimony payments to another publisher.
Xenon
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Give 5 reasons why a different publisher, that's not too different from the current publisher, and yet makes much more money, will kill MK.
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lariat
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I'll give you one EA.