Kombat pack 3 official thread

The stance is exactly why he wasn't included though. As mentioned above, it's also why Freddy wears two gloves in MK9. They find fixes for characters they "need"
 
Ricochetmatt said:
For starters : love him or hate him, Rain absolutely should have been on the roster from day one. Some will argue this as he wasn't in the arcade version of UMK3. But that's a piss poor excuse. He was an original trilogy character and for him to be left out of the base game and only become available as DLC (and not even free DLC - people had to buy him if they wanted a complete MK1-UMK3 roster) was actually insulting.

And then there's Quan Chi. I get it. He was shoehorned into the story of MK 1-3. That's perfectly fine. But did he really need a roster spot in MK9? Story-wise it felt way too forced. At that point in time he should have been working within the shadows. Not competing and sh**. A wasted slot that should have gone to a character who was made DLC. Once again, insulting. Cyber sub Zero also irritated me as he should have been a skin for Sub Zero. Not a separate character. I mean, we have human Cyrax and Sektor as skins for the default cyborg Cyrax and Sektor.

Granted, cyber Sub Zero played a whole lot better than human Sub Zero... But that only means they should have designed human Sub Zero a lot better (gameplay-wise).

And of course, MKX had a hot mess for a roster. At least half of it made no sense to me.
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Agreed 100%.
My sentiments exactly.


Gameplay obviously takes priority in a genre like this, but why can't they give us new characters or characters we haven't seen in a long time with similar play styles to the ones people obsess over, you know? I mean Cassie Cage borrows from Styker, Sonya and Johnny. So what's the problem, right? The same old characters definitely get tiresome. Which is why MKX had a shorter life span for me than MK9 did. With MK9 it was all about the nostalgia. MKX promised a whole lot of "new" sh** and gave us a whole lot of old sh**. So many of the characters on the roster had no real reason being there aside from "fan demand". But if anyone actually believes that fans would boycott if they don't see Kung Lao or Liu Kang again, that's absurd. These characters have been absent from games before and the series did well enough.
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I've mentioned this before, as well, as I felt that NRS "wiped the slate" for nothing in MK9.
Instead, fan demand made MKX essentially feel like MK9.5 (to me).
Alien = Baraka-lien, Impostor Shinnok = Shang Tsung and Mournful Kitana = Jade, as well as Triborg being 4 of the missing cyborgs.
So, basically MKX is just missing 5 characters to be a complete MK9.5, with some new characters.


Mileena will most definitely be back. There's no denying that. NRS has a hard-on for her. The only question is.... when? I swear if she's back in MK11, I'll throw a fit. Some people actually give a damn about the story. The deaths in MK9 were already cheapened with MKX... They better not cheapen the few deaths we had in this latest game. Ugh.
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Yup.
She and Kitana are the most popular females of MK, so at this point I don't see how she isn't coming back.


Lets bring it back to piss poor excuses. To hear any professional gaming company say "We wont include x character because they're too much of a challenge" is nauseating and fu****g sad. Making video games is a challenge. Boo hoo. Don't like it, change careers. Interesting and challenging characters should be a goal of theirs. The K.I.S.S. method should not apply to fighting games, Mortal Kombat specifically.

I seriously hope that is not the legit reason they refuse to include him in another game. I mean, I'm no Drahmin fan. I don't love him nor hate him... But Christ... What a stupid fu****g thing for them to say. I don't buy the stance bs for one second. Isn't it well known that Boon hates Drahmin? I'd respect their decision more if they went with that excuse and not "Stance switching... and that club.... ugggghhhhh fml! Too difficult!"
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Smells like Motaro, all over again.
We can't animate Motaro, so off to the chopping block he goes.


Bo over Fujin gives me a serious headache. My lord, I'd like to slap Ed and everyone at NRS for that absurd decision. The general opinion of Bo is extremely negative. Honestly, the only fans of his I have ever seen frequent this forum. I've never met anyone in person who likes him, he always ends up on the worst MK characters lists, he's usually a hit among children who appreciate fart jokes. That should really say something.
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Same here.
Aside from here (TRMK), I don't know anyone who plays MKX, IRL, and goes "Oh, yay, I finally get playable Bo Rai Cho."
The people that I know who play MK don't really care for Bo Rai Cho.
I'm still crossing my fingers that at least 1 of his variations doesn't have farting or puking in it.
 
And it's a terrible excuse. I refuse to accept that as a reason for not including a character. I may not know everything, but I'm not that simple minded.

Game designers pull off some incredible sh** these days. NRS is challenged by stance switching cause one character has a club for a hand??? Dude. I believe in defending NRS when it's well deserved. But this is not one of those moments. Leaving characters out because they're a "challenge" is fu***** laughable.

"We took out Reptile's tail because f*** that noise" - *releases Alien who has a tail* <--- Because "more money".

Does NRS even give a sh** about their craft anymore?

Commander said:
Smells like Motaro, all over again.
We can't animate Motaro, so off to the chopping block he goes.
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Don't even get me started on Motaro. He is easily one of the coolest characters in the series and since his initial appearance he has been downgraded over and over and over until he was nothing more than an uninspired NPC who dies like a little b**** in the background during story mode. And THEN they go about this whole "Quan Chi wants the souls of the dead warriors" story line and yet... Quan Chi wants nothing to do with a fu***** Centaur who shoots lasers out of his god damn tail. Really? He wants Stryker but not Motaro?

Oh right, he's too much of a challenge for the game designers. F*** that guy.
 
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Ricochetmatt said:
And it's a terrible excuse. I refuse to accept that as a reason for not including a character. I may not know everything, but I'm not that simple minded.

Game designers pull off some incredible sh** these days. NRS is challenged by stance switching cause one character has a club for a hand??? Dude. I believe in defending NRS when it's well deserved. But this is not one of those moments. Leaving characters out because they're a "challenge" is fu***** laughable.

"We took out Reptile's tail because f*** that noise" - *releases Alien who has a tail* <--- Because "more money".

Does NRS even give a sh** about their craft anymore?
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As I said, they put in the effort when it's worth it. Nobody likes Drahmin. Why would they put in extra effort for a character everybody is going to call a "waste" anyway.
 
BBBLP said:
As I said, they put in the effort when it's worth it. Nobody likes Drahmin. Why would they put in extra effort for a character everybody is going to call a "waste" anyway.
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Dude... Bo' Rai Cho. Nobody likes that sh** stain other than a few incredibly vocal people. They actually have the nerve to not only give that character anything more than his reasonable and tolerable part in story mode, but they honest to god want people to spend money on the character!

How often do MK fans outside of the few kids on TRMK (Trash being one of them - That fu***** says it all) actually say they like Bo' Rai Cho? That is something I never ever heard until I joined this site.

Drahmin is a filler character who never really had any relevance or true fan base, but this is a new timeline where they could reinvent him into something special. Which is something they absolutely refused to do with Bo. Had they left him alone after his story cameo, everything would be fine. He showed up, he was relevant to the situation, he took his leave.

I'm not saying Drahmin NEEDS to be in a future MK game. I don't actually care either way. But the excuse for not ever giving him a chance... Is absolutely ridiculous. Because the whole "too much of a challenge" excuse actually removed one of my favorite characters from the series. It's a slap in the face to the people who do love these characters and are spoon fed such drivel for why they will never get to experience their favorite character ever again. But don't worry! Liu Kang and Kung Lao (despite being incredibly bland poorly constructed characters) will live to see another day!

Like I said, if NRS just flat out said "We really don't like him and he no longer fits our vision of Mortal Kombat" I'd be less furious over it. But they actually had the balls to say "We just don't have enough faith in our own character to go the extra mile to make him work". Holy sh**... That's so embarrassing for them.
 
Boon doesn't like Drahmin

https://twitter.com/noobde/status/542166122859356160
https://twitter.com/noobde/status/600501587929374720
https://twitter.com/noobde/status/559929168599998466

That's reason enough for me.

I'm finished with the whole "3d character potential" spiel I used to spout out. Hsu Hao, Mavado, Kobra (via Erron's intro), Drahmin, Reiko, Havik and Moloch all killed in the comic book. Why should I be the sucker to care for these characters that not even the creators care about? Why is Bo Rai Cho in? Because they like Bo Rai Cho. Tanya was in KP1, and her ass got nothing but hate from everyone but about 4 people on here. NRS likes to throw at least one loser in their Season passes. Just look at Rain ;)
 
BBBLP said:
Boon doesn't like Drahmin

https://twitter.com/noobde/status/542166122859356160
https://twitter.com/noobde/status/600501587929374720
https://twitter.com/noobde/status/559929168599998466

That's reason enough for me.

I'm finished with the whole "3d character potential" spiel I used to spout out. Hsu Hao, Mavado, Kobra (via Erron's intro), Drahmin, Reiko, Havik and Moloch all killed in the comic book. Why should I be the sucker to care for these characters that not even the creators care about? Why is Bo Rai Cho in? Because they like Bo Rai Cho. Tanya was in KP1, and her ass got nothing but hate from everyone but about 4 people on here. NRS likes to throw at least one loser in their Season passes. Just look at Rain ;)
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Again, I don't care who they bring back so long as they do a good job with it. I've lost all hope on the reinvention of the 3D era characters. The only one I'm truly satisfied with is Kenshi. Tanya was cool enough for me. But I wont go down that road as she should have been on the initial roster.... For obvious reasons.

And I'll let that Rain comment go, cause I like you.
 
I like Bo' Rai Cho. But I like Fujin more, and I feel like he should have been in instead. Still sorta happy with Bo though, wish they took him more seriously though.
 
I think it's cool Bo'Rai Cho is in MKX - but not on the expense of other, better and cooler MK characters who could've been in MKX instead. But rather the guest characters got kicked to make room for MK characters and have Bo stay.
 
BBBLP said:
As I said, they put in the effort when it's worth it. Nobody likes Drahmin. Why would they put in extra effort for a character everybody is going to call a "waste" anyway.
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Yeah, with that mind set it will never happen. Remember MK4 Shinnok? What a lame peice of shit he was, right? I think he's a lot more appreciated now. Sure, he had ties to the story that made him important but how many fans did he really have before MKX? Couldn't be too much more than these characters we're mentioning.
(I can remember anytime I'd bring him up anywhere and felt like I was talking about some side character no one even remembered. But now I main him)
The same could happen (if the team would give it a second thought instead of giving everyone children or overusing too many characters) with characters like Drahmin and maybe miraculously better :bebored:
 
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Stryker was the most hated MK character of all time since his debut in MK3. Coming back in MKA did not help his popularity. However, he suddenly gained alot of popularity when he returned in MK9! Which proves that NRS can take any past unliked character in the MK franchise and actually do them justice in a new appearance.

Drahmin already has a rather cool and unique background story, he just needs a look and a moveset that would reflect that.
 
theincubuslord said:
Stryker was the most hated MK character of all time since his debut in MK3. Coming back in MKA did not help his popularity. However, he suddenly gained alot of popularity when he returned in MK9! Which proves that NRS can take any past unliked character in the MK franchise and actually do them justice in a new appearance.

Drahmin already has a rather cool and unique background story, he just needs a look and a moveset that would reflect that.
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Exactly. Which is why I hate when people act like we're crazy when we request characters like Havik, Reiko, or Sareena. NRS can take any character and do them justice, and hopefully they realize this. Shinnok was redeemed, and they're putting in Bo' Rai Cho, so hopefully they follow suit with MK11 and put in even more 3D era characters.
 
I don't doubt their ability to recreate these characters. Shit during the mk9 days I was one of the biggest supporters of the idea. I'm just not holding my breath on NRS' desire to do so. Mkx was the perfect opportunity to reintroduce post umk3 characters since the story was taking place post umk3. They decided against that, and I'm just saying that I can't blame them
 
I get that, dude, I'm just saying this because I think its a shame.

But I think the new timeline goes like this:
MK9-(MK1-3 rebooted freshly)
MKX-(MK4 rebooted, granted it had a lot of original material to go along with the story.. But come on, Revenants=Shinnok's Army of Darkness. It was pretty much MK4 done slightly different)

So MK11, in my opinion, is the perfect opportunity for the 3D era material to be reworked. (Havik, Drahmin, Chaos Realm, Order Realm, Dragon King-Really good stuff that deserves a second chance) It makes perfect sense but something tells me they won't play it that way.
 
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I'd rather see Kotal's crew get some extra shine before they start tossing the peanut gallery back in. I don't want to be the guy years from now saying "please bring back Torr! He never got a chance !"
 
If they stop filling the rosters with characters who have no business being there, they most definitely could have Drahmin (or whoever) on the same roster as someone like Torr. lol
 
Like the others, I wouldn't of been bothered if Liu Kang was left out but he's one barely reasonable character on the roster because of the cliffhanger. I felt the roster closing out its potential when he was revealed. But I got over that and actually became my second main. Strangely became a much bigger fan of his through X.
The "non-canon" default costume appears in his ending for some reason. I guess that doesn't really matter though.
 
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