Shujinko

[Cyber Reptile]

I see people making threads on individuals,so I thought on making one on Shujinko.As far as we know,Raiden didin't make an alteration on the timeline that would stop Onaga,neither do any difference on Shujinko's quest.He is my favorite character in the franchise,so i would like to know what are others's thoughts.

Would you like Shujinko to return?

If yes,how do you think he could be implemented?

 

[MKShao_Kahn]

Of course I would like to see Shujinko come back, MKD's konquest mode was by far my favourite story piece of Mortal Kombat ever. I just hope he plays a role in the story mode even if he is not a selectable character in the game.

 

[Kickinwing420]

Glad to see Shujinko still gets some love.
He's also one of my favorite characters, but that has a lot to do with me growing up playing MKD konquest.
Maybe Raiden could intercept him in his quest and set him on a different one.

He has quite a bit of potential if he maybe gets himself some original moves. If i remember correctly, he just used generic fireballs.
I think it would be cool to have all three of Shujinko's variations a different age. Although im not sure what he would use for specials and what-not. NO FIREBALLS...

Anyway, im deffinetly with you when it comes to Shujinko...
They BETTER NOT just forget about him., or give him some weak cameo.

 

[Sub-Zero]

The simple name of this thread gave me a thought. Couldn't it easily be that from the end of MK3(where MK9 left off) to the end of Armageddon could be the 25 years they're taking us through?

 

[Kickinwing420]

The simple name of this thread gave me a thought. Couldn't it easily be that from the end of MK3(where MK9 left off) to the end of Armageddon could be the 25 years they're taking us through?

i believe that MKA took place ten years after MK3. I could be wrong tho, thats just what i remember.

anyway i am really hoping that we get at least a little info on the events in MKDA MKD and MKA. Like others have said before, a lot of these things can still happen without Shao Kahn.

 

[Killer Ryno]

If he came back to MKX I would want to see him be drastically different from his previous self

 

[Sub-Zero]

i believe that MKA took place ten years after MK3. I could be wrong tho, thats just what i remember.

anyway i am really hoping that we get at least a little info on the events in MKDA MKD and MKA. Like others have said before, a lot of these things can still happen without Shao Kahn.

Based on the original storyline Shao Kahn doesnt make a return until Armageddon. The Shao Kahn the Deadly Alliance killed was apparently a fake Shao Kahn. So a lot happens without him.

 

[Guyver Spawn]

i believe that MKA took place ten years after MK3. I could be wrong tho, thats just what i remember.

MKDA states it been 10 years since MK1, MK2 takes place sometime after MK1 and MK3 happens right after MK2. MKD happens right happen MKDA lefts off and MKA takes sometime later after MKD. In the original timetime, MKDA - MKA happen a decade after MK1-3. With the 25 year span that we're getting in the story mode then it would be nice to see the events of MK4 - MKA happen. Since the timeline has change, some events can happen sooner or later.

Anyways, I would like to see Shujinko return in some way or form. I feel like his request is important to the MK universe and the other characters like Nightwolf being dead could affect his request. I doubt he will be playable given that most fans don't seem to like him that much.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

The thing with Armageddon is that it's not a solid event. It's a consequence of many events.

On the first timeline, it happened 10 years after MK3. But now, with Raiden possible changes on MKX too, he postponed the end.

I already said this once, on Raiden's thread, but I will be more simple: Raiden did not prevented Armageddon. His only signal of Armageddon was the broken amulet, that in truth marked his death, not the end of all things.

When Raiden makes Shao Kahn being judged by the Elder Gods, he simply prevents the existence of Kahn in the same hour, day and year that the thunder god was killed. So, he prevented his own death by taking out Shao Kahn from that exact moment, that's why the amulet fixed, and that's why he thinks Armageddon is prevented.

Armageddon is caused by the numerous kombatants and it's constant threat to the realms, not by Shao Kahn himself. Also, Raiden preveneted Kahn from existing on the battle and winning, what opens the chance of another one winning the battle against Blaze.

We clearly see that we have more characters and moe kombat. There is no way to escape the apex of destruction, even if they survive, but the moment will come.

About Shujinko, I really hope he appears because I want Onaga on this game.

Raiden experienced Shujinko, but wasn't present and didn't know at all the events that led to the Dragon King's ressurection. He only knows Shujinko did. He will need to find Shujinko to prevent Onaga's return.

Sorry, Thunder God, you're one of my favorites, but this time I will seek your failure, I WANT ONAGA!!!!!!!

 

[Guyver Spawn]

Blaze and Pyramid of Argus are still around in the new timeline. Raiden or someone would have to kill Blaze in order to make sure Armageddon never happens. If Shujinko gets killed off then I think Onaga can find other ways to return.

 

[Kickinwing420]

Blaze and Pyramid of Argus are still around in the new timeline. Raiden or someone would have to kill Blaze in order to make sure Armageddon never happens. If Shujinko gets killed off then I think Onaga can find other ways to return.

Maybe Blaze was already killed.
I find it weird that he wasn't at the pit in MK9. That was a big thing about that stage in the first games, there was a dude ON FIRE fighting in the background. To replace him with characters like Daegon and Frost is strange.

I also still find it strange that Quan Chi plays such a big role this time around. Not only is he playing a bigger role, but it went as far as him doing things Shang Tsung did in the original timeline.
Like resurrect Sindel.

 

[Mr. Ice]

If you think about it, Shujinko would be perfect. He could have 3 different variations - not only in terms of fighting styles, but also age. We've seen him age once and that could be used for the variations - a young Shujinko, a mature Shujinko and an old Shujinko. Think about it.

 

[Guyver Spawn]

Blaze should be still rooming around in Outworld. Maybe he didn't show up in the Pit sages in MK9 is that he somewhere in Outworld or in another realm. I think someone else other then Raiden show visions from the future. That could explain why Quan Chi was in the events of MK1-MK3 in MK9. Maybe Onaga as Damashi could saw them too and had Shujinko do his quest differently. Maybe in the story mode, Damashi tells Shujinko to join Raiden to fight against Shinnok in order to get Shinnok's amulet in order to gathered all six Kamidogu.

Based on the original storyline Shao Kahn doesnt make a return until Armageddon. The Shao Kahn the Deadly Alliance killed was apparently a fake Shao Kahn. So a lot happens without him.

Shao Kahn was still alive during the events of deception. He team up with Goro in order to help over throw Onaga.

 

[Cyber Reptile]

He has quite a bit of potential if he maybe gets himself some original moves. If i remember correctly, he just used generic fireballs.

He used moves from other characters that you unlock in Konquest.I thought it was cool,like an ultra-simple RPG style thing.Although it was weird that he could use both Scorpion's spear and Sub-Zero's ice as both moves have the same purpose.

The simple name of this thread gave me a thought. Couldn't it easily be that from the end of MK3(where MK9 left off) to the end of Armageddon could be the 25 years they're taking us through?

It is possible,like Ledbetter said,Armageddon was just delayed.In the original timeline it was 10 years,but now it could be 25.But i don't see it happening,they are aiming for a new tale with MKX.

If he came back to MKX I would want to see him be drastically different from his previous self

I agree,i don't want him to be the main hero,this is suited better for Kai or a brand new character.Without his quest for the Kamidogu,we may see a different side of Jinko.The same may happen with Liu Kang.

 

[Marcelino Rodrigues]

I love old Shujinko! He had a great design there. It did remind of old-school Chinese masters. He's like Street Fighter Gen. The problem I had with Shujinko was his moveset which was really a copypaste of other characters' moves! Literally! Give him unique abilities based on Chinese martial arts. No fireballs, no spears, no whatever.

Though I am really not seeing Shujinko coming back...

 

[MitsuharuSan]

I also still find it strange that Quan Chi plays such a big role this time around. Not only is he playing a bigger role, but it went as far as him doing things Shang Tsung did in the original timeline.
Like resurrect Sindel.

It probably has to do with Quan Chi and Shinnok's ultimate plan - I think they were aware of Raiden's quest and maybe one of them (or both) did something in the Armageddon timeline to come back with the Thunder God and follow his steps (while changing other smaller things as they saw convenient).

At least that's what makes sense. Either NRS is hiding this new story because it's too awesome to be spoiled or they regretted the decision and went "WWE/Chris Benoit" (as in deny existence) on it.

 

[Guyver Spawn]

It is possible,like Ledbetter said,Armageddon was just delayed.In the original timeline it was 10 years,but now it could be 25.But i don't see it happening,they are aiming for a new tale with MKX.

Maybe Armageddon in MK is like Judgment Day in the Terminator franchise. It can't be prevented no matter how you changed it.

If you think about it, Shujinko would be perfect. He could have 3 different variations - not only in terms of fighting styles, but also age. We've seen him age once and that could be used for the variations - a young Shujinko, a mature Shujinko and an old Shujinko. Think about it.

That would be awesome and maybe Shujinko is one of the few post MK4 characters that Ed Boon hinted. He said that there's a MK4 character and a few others from the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube games will be in it too.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

Blaze and Pyramid of Argus are still around in the new timeline. Raiden or someone would have to kill Blaze in order to make sure Armageddon never happens. If Shujinko gets killed off then I think Onaga can find other ways to return.

But Armageddon is not Blaze. Even if someone kills Blaze, the chaos among realms will continue. The fire elemental was only a "safeguard" (dumbly) created by Delia to try to solve the problem, but Armageddon itself is far more than that, that's why Raiden is mistaken.

 

[Nethervestige]

Looks like this won't be a popular opinion on this thread, but Shujinko and Konquest mode suck balls. I don't want to see them return in any capacity whatsoever and I take comfort from the hints being dropped that the story of MKX will not be retreading the old ground of MKA - MK:A. Boon is consistently alluding to a new narrative this time, which sounds like it's designed to distance itself from those awful, awful plots and characters from that era.

Shujinko's quest, like Taven's after him, was just a poorly executed distraction for players. It tried to replace missing quality with more quantity. 'Yeah, let's throw in chess kombat and puzzle kombat too! Maybe that will make people forget that this storyline is bullsh!t.'

All they had was a villain, but unfortunately his origin story was some unintelligible fever dream desperately stitched together just to add more content to the game. Maybe the team had to join Warner Bros before it had the resources to give us MK 2011 and Injustice? I don't know, but it was definitely a change for the better IMO.

 

[Guyver Spawn]

With the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube games, Midway only give the MK staff barely a year to work on the game. They never had the time to fresh out the stories and characters. I think NRS can revist some of the old bad characters and revamp them. I think Shujinko will be more like if NRS made him less stupid and give him his own move sets. He's not like Hus Hao where the damage has been done.