least fav mkd fighter
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I don't think there is a need to make a completely new thread over one character. I do not go to these forums everyday, but i am pretty sure there is a character thread that you can post on. http://www.trmk.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14015
Try that link...although its the best character in Mortal Kombat Deception...you can bash Kobra enough on there
Enjoy
Try that link...although its the best character in Mortal Kombat Deception...you can bash Kobra enough on there
Enjoy
Gordonut
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Kobra is one of the toughest characters! Seriously, if he didn't look like Ken, everyone would love him.
Weakest has got to be Li Mei or Mileena. Why Mileena's roll isn't a low attack, I have no idea. And if it wasn't for Li Mei's sword, she'd be hopeless.
Worst character IMO is Ashrah, she is so badly broken I can't believe it.
Weakest has got to be Li Mei or Mileena. Why Mileena's roll isn't a low attack, I have no idea. And if it wasn't for Li Mei's sword, she'd be hopeless.
Worst character IMO is Ashrah, she is so badly broken I can't believe it.
Wow there are a few things wrong with that post no offense.
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I don't think so is that SF fanboyism talking?
Because he is weak, and the only thing that keeps him alive is his broken moves. *Also called cheap*
See Kobra again. Also Mileena? Li Mei? From MK
Li Mei is awesome, and Mileena is the best strategic character with the exception of Shujinko.
It isn't about who is weak, it is about who actually can be good. Such as in MK3 who is better Kabal or Sheeva? Sheeva IS stronger but Kabal has better moves and is a lot better. Thus Kabal wins.
They are definetly not the weakest :shock: . *Noob and Smoke are weaker than Kobra even. As is Hotaru
I'm sensing some hate here. Li Mei is way better than Scorpion in a view point. Li mei not only has uberly broken moves, she also has better combos than Kobra, she is also way better than Sindel.
Mileena's roll is also broken since it is downright unstopable after a certain point. She also has many good sweep combos, and has special moves which put Kobra's broken moves to shame.
Now I know you put IMO but care to explain? Her moves aren't broken. *Most of the time they miss*, Her combos are decent and she doesn't have a problem with here weapon.
She is partially better than Jade, and Sub-Zero.
I don't see anything broken excpt for her round-house kick which can lead into a 7-hit combo.
Otherwise I'd have to say you are being a little bit insane over everyone hating Kobra. Kobra doesn't look like Ken in the least. Other than his yellow hair if he didn't have that he would look like... A hoodlum... LMAO.
Anyway I'd also have to say Kobra.
He has more broken moves than Kabal, His combo's are way too broken. *Play someone with some experiance using Baraka/etc. They will most likely lose*
He has so many special attacks that you can use them and win the fight without even using his normal moves.
He is very weak with the exception of his weapons.
Nobody hates him because he looks like Ken. In fact most SF players who play MK would like him but he is way too broken to play with.
If you use him most likely you will win.
Now Noob-And-Smoke also are broken with their moves, but they are slower than most characters, so they wouldn't be able to pull the shit Kobra does.
Li Mei also with her fighting style is actually a decent fighter her sword highly lacks any good combos.
Mileena is way higher in the tier list than Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Kabal, and a few others but I still like Scorpion/etc. Better.
These are IMO expressed but they are the truth from my POV.
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I don't think so is that SF fanboyism talking?
Because he is weak, and the only thing that keeps him alive is his broken moves. *Also called cheap*
See Kobra again. Also Mileena? Li Mei? From MK
Li Mei is awesome, and Mileena is the best strategic character with the exception of Shujinko.It isn't about who is weak, it is about who actually can be good. Such as in MK3 who is better Kabal or Sheeva? Sheeva IS stronger but Kabal has better moves and is a lot better. Thus Kabal wins.
They are definetly not the weakest :shock: . *Noob and Smoke are weaker than Kobra even. As is Hotaru
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I'm sensing some hate here. Li Mei is way better than Scorpion in a view point. Li mei not only has uberly broken moves, she also has better combos than Kobra, she is also way better than Sindel.
Mileena's roll is also broken since it is downright unstopable after a certain point. She also has many good sweep combos, and has special moves which put Kobra's broken moves to shame.
Now I know you put IMO but care to explain? Her moves aren't broken. *Most of the time they miss*, Her combos are decent and she doesn't have a problem with here weapon.
She is partially better than Jade, and Sub-Zero.
I don't see anything broken excpt for her round-house kick which can lead into a 7-hit combo.
Otherwise I'd have to say you are being a little bit insane over everyone hating Kobra. Kobra doesn't look like Ken in the least. Other than his yellow hair if he didn't have that he would look like... A hoodlum... LMAO.
Anyway I'd also have to say Kobra.
He has more broken moves than Kabal, His combo's are way too broken. *Play someone with some experiance using Baraka/etc. They will most likely lose*
He has so many special attacks that you can use them and win the fight without even using his normal moves.
He is very weak with the exception of his weapons.
Nobody hates him because he looks like Ken. In fact most SF players who play MK would like him but he is way too broken to play with.
If you use him most likely you will win.
Now Noob-And-Smoke also are broken with their moves, but they are slower than most characters, so they wouldn't be able to pull the shit Kobra does.
Li Mei also with her fighting style is actually a decent fighter her sword highly lacks any good combos.
Mileena is way higher in the tier list than Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Kabal, and a few others but I still like Scorpion/etc. Better.
These are IMO expressed but they are the truth from my POV.
Gordonut
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Pheonix,
I said Kobra is tough. You said "If you use him most likely you will win". So you agree with me.
Ashrah is broken. Her throw on it's own does more damage than anyone else's (you can see this on Practice mode) AND it pops you up AND you can't use your breaker. Her combos are high damaging, they are sweep or overhead or blinding, they reach for miles, and I don't know where you get the idea she misses with them.
Li Mei awesome? Her specials are slow and she hits with weak damage. Maybe she's better in MKDA, I can't remember. But try doing 30% damage with her. Then try it with Liu Kang.
And for you to rate Mileena with Shujinko ... the mind boggles. She can be nasty once you're knocked down, I admit. I once threw someone 4 times in a row with her. Is that what you mean by "strategic"?
Do you play online at all? It's a real eye-opener.
I said Kobra is tough. You said "If you use him most likely you will win". So you agree with me.
Ashrah is broken. Her throw on it's own does more damage than anyone else's (you can see this on Practice mode) AND it pops you up AND you can't use your breaker. Her combos are high damaging, they are sweep or overhead or blinding, they reach for miles, and I don't know where you get the idea she misses with them.
Li Mei awesome? Her specials are slow and she hits with weak damage. Maybe she's better in MKDA, I can't remember. But try doing 30% damage with her. Then try it with Liu Kang.
And for you to rate Mileena with Shujinko ... the mind boggles. She can be nasty once you're knocked down, I admit. I once threw someone 4 times in a row with her. Is that what you mean by "strategic"?
Do you play online at all? It's a real eye-opener.
Shujinko really is CHEAP.
He is the only character with an infinite combo.
You see if a character is very broken well then they aren't good.
If a Kobra noob player VS. A Scorpion intermediate player the Kobra player will most likely win which is why I rate him bad.
It should be him being less broken.
Now in the past only a few were broken
MK1: Scorpion, and Sub-Zero. (Their moves were almost impossible to dodge. Due to they could hit in mid-air.)
MK2: Kung Lao, Raiden, Shao Khan, Kintaro, Reptile, and Kitana.( Mainly broken moves that are uber) You could also preform 10 hit combos with Kitana.
MK3: Shao Khan, Motaro, Noob Saibot, Smoke, Cyrax, Sub-Zero, and a few others.
UMK3/MK:T: Noob Saibot, Sektor, Cyrax, Sub-Zero *new one/old one*, Reptile, Rain *high brokeness*, Ermac*see Rain*, Kano, Raiden, Kung Lao, Motaro, Shao Khan, and again a few others.
MK4: Goro, Shinnok, Noob Saibot, Reptile, and I think that was it.
MKA: Moloch, Shang Tsung, Raiden, Kano, and I think that is it.
MK: Kabal, Mileena, Shujinko (inf. Combo), Liu Kang, Sub-Zero, Scorpion, rest here.
Now Scorpion's combos were somewhat between broken and average. Sub-Zero had one of the cheapest chain-link combos.
Kabal's Special moves made him broken. *With his HK, LK, HK combo thing.*
Mileena basically only had that roll move, and one short sweep combo.
Shujinko IS broken. Not only does he have moves from most characters from this game. He uses the most broken moves only. He has an inf. Combo which to me lowers him to the bottom on "good" scale.
Ashrah, Highkick combo. Most characters, have broken throws. *Including most of the above said.*
Liu Kang, do I even have to say? He has some of the cheapest moves/broken moves, his combos kill with two hits over and over again which are broken. He has way too many combos leading into pop-ups, and he really is faster than other characters.
Li Mei has a few broken combos with her sword stance. Her specials, may be weak but she is still good in the hands of an expert player.
Her worst problem is a combo which leads into a 15-hit combo if preformed correctly.
Kobra=Again the brokeness. His moves are broken, combos, etc. He is as bad as Liu, and Shujinko. *actually I would say even* n
Noob-Smoke: Like Kobra they have way too many special moves which are broken. Their combos are fine considering they have no weapon.
Hotaru has way too many broken moves. His special moves can kill within 3 hits each, and 2 combos of him literaly can lead into two combos into it. (12-13 hits)
Raiden... He is the most broken character next to Kobra, Shujinko, Liu Kang, etc. His torpedo move is spammed to death. His weapon's combos are so broken I can't even switch his styles without seeing how broken he is. Plus his throw is also broken.
Baraka, only has like 2 broken combos, which only lead into 5 hits. Two of his special moves are broken.
Jade... Really isn't that broken now that I think about it. Only her specials really are broken.
Bo Rai Cho= He is next to Raiden... His special moves, are broken with the exception of he sumo move. His weapon has many cheap/broken combos, and his Drunken Fist fighting style has 8 combos which are broken. *his HP HP HP HP, one is a good example.*
Onaga like most bosses is broken, but he is slow so that evens out.
Tanya= How could I forget her? Since MK4 she had that leg screw attack which is broken. Her combos are broken.
Simply put all of the characters are broken but some lesser than others.
The ones I consider good are the ones like Jade, they aren't primarily broken.
Li Mei in MKA sucked. No she is way better in MK ask anybody here.
He is the only character with an infinite combo.
You see if a character is very broken well then they aren't good.
If a Kobra noob player VS. A Scorpion intermediate player the Kobra player will most likely win which is why I rate him bad.
It should be him being less broken.
Now in the past only a few were broken
MK1: Scorpion, and Sub-Zero. (Their moves were almost impossible to dodge. Due to they could hit in mid-air.)
MK2: Kung Lao, Raiden, Shao Khan, Kintaro, Reptile, and Kitana.( Mainly broken moves that are uber) You could also preform 10 hit combos with Kitana.
MK3: Shao Khan, Motaro, Noob Saibot, Smoke, Cyrax, Sub-Zero, and a few others.
UMK3/MK:T: Noob Saibot, Sektor, Cyrax, Sub-Zero *new one/old one*, Reptile, Rain *high brokeness*, Ermac*see Rain*, Kano, Raiden, Kung Lao, Motaro, Shao Khan, and again a few others.
MK4: Goro, Shinnok, Noob Saibot, Reptile, and I think that was it.
MK
A: Moloch, Shang Tsung, Raiden, Kano, and I think that is it.MK
: Kabal, Mileena, Shujinko (inf. Combo), Liu Kang, Sub-Zero, Scorpion, rest here.Now Scorpion's combos were somewhat between broken and average. Sub-Zero had one of the cheapest chain-link combos.
Kabal's Special moves made him broken. *With his HK, LK, HK combo thing.*
Mileena basically only had that roll move, and one short sweep combo.
Shujinko IS broken. Not only does he have moves from most characters from this game. He uses the most broken moves only. He has an inf. Combo which to me lowers him to the bottom on "good" scale.
Ashrah, Highkick combo. Most characters, have broken throws. *Including most of the above said.*
Liu Kang, do I even have to say? He has some of the cheapest moves/broken moves, his combos kill with two hits over and over again which are broken. He has way too many combos leading into pop-ups, and he really is faster than other characters.
Li Mei has a few broken combos with her sword stance. Her specials, may be weak but she is still good in the hands of an expert player.
Her worst problem is a combo which leads into a 15-hit combo if preformed correctly.
Kobra=Again the brokeness. His moves are broken, combos, etc. He is as bad as Liu, and Shujinko. *actually I would say even* n
Noob-Smoke: Like Kobra they have way too many special moves which are broken. Their combos are fine considering they have no weapon.
Hotaru has way too many broken moves. His special moves can kill within 3 hits each, and 2 combos of him literaly can lead into two combos into it. (12-13 hits)
Raiden... He is the most broken character next to Kobra, Shujinko, Liu Kang, etc. His torpedo move is spammed to death. His weapon's combos are so broken I can't even switch his styles without seeing how broken he is. Plus his throw is also broken.
Baraka, only has like 2 broken combos, which only lead into 5 hits. Two of his special moves are broken.
Jade... Really isn't that broken now that I think about it. Only her specials really are broken.
Bo Rai Cho= He is next to Raiden... His special moves, are broken with the exception of he sumo move. His weapon has many cheap/broken combos, and his Drunken Fist fighting style has 8 combos which are broken. *his HP HP HP HP, one is a good example.*
Onaga like most bosses is broken, but he is slow so that evens out.
Tanya= How could I forget her? Since MK4 she had that leg screw attack which is broken. Her combos are broken.
Simply put all of the characters are broken but some lesser than others.
The ones I consider good are the ones like Jade, they aren't primarily broken.
Li Mei in MK
A sucked. No she is way better in MK ask anybody here.
Gordonut
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Wow, I'm sensing some hate here :wink:
You've posted too much to reply to each point, but to summarize.
IMO:
Cheap = can use cheesey moves to win.
Broken = far too powerful.
Who is cheap, broken or both is subject to opinion.
If I had to choose, I think I'd say Kobra is the most cheap AND broken.
But Ashrah is still my least favourite, as she is much more broken but slightly less cheap :wink:
You've posted too much to reply to each point, but to summarize.
IMO:
Cheap = can use cheesey moves to win.
Broken = far too powerful.
Who is cheap, broken or both is subject to opinion.
If I had to choose, I think I'd say Kobra is the most cheap AND broken.
But Ashrah is still my least favourite, as she is much more broken but slightly less cheap :wink:
The 7th Number
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cobra and hotaru.....
Quest2be1
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@pheonix
dude, Shujinko is the cheapest. You made a comment that is completely false. You are saying Shujinko is cheap b/c of his combos and you say that he is the only one to have infinite combos? are you kidding me? maybe you are just not that great with combos.. i will 50/50 you to make you use your breakers and then i will kill you using devestaing combos. my point is. "Shujinko with the only infinite" NO. I can do an infinite with almost every single character. Infinites that are breakable if you still have any breakers. I dont mean a cheap BRC Infinity. just to name a few people that also have excellent combos.... over 100% without them having a weapon on....
Shujinko: 175 has higher
Darrius: 120
Li Mei: 126 has much higher
Sindel: 106 also has much higher
Bo Rai Cho: 98
Ermac: 95
Ashrah: 115
Kabal: 100+
Jade: 95
Kira: 85
Liu kang: 90
Sub Zero: 55
I know mileena baraka subZero Nightwolf and maybe 1 or 2 others dont have combos over 80% at least i have not done so yet. dude i can keep going on. i have a consistent Shujinko 90% that i can pull off about 75% of the time. My capture... Proof... http://sesstreets.com/uploader/files/5/Quest2be1_Shujinko_15hits_89%.mpg
@everyone else
I also think cheap is mistaken for people learning how to win. Its all about stratagy. Pokes are very useful
and so is down+B. Helps open up for a good combo.
to answer the question... Kobra is good also sucks. Just need to know how to play with him well and you can own. however i am not good with kobra nor do i care to fight with him or Kenshi. Just boring characters for me. My least fav overall has to be Hotaru. I know i might get flamed for that one. but i just dont like Hotaru at all. Soooo boring but doesnt mean he is the weakest b/c he definately isnt. so really i dont know who is my least fav character or worst character.
dude, Shujinko is the cheapest. You made a comment that is completely false. You are saying Shujinko is cheap b/c of his combos and you say that he is the only one to have infinite combos? are you kidding me? maybe you are just not that great with combos.. i will 50/50 you to make you use your breakers and then i will kill you using devestaing combos. my point is. "Shujinko with the only infinite" NO. I can do an infinite with almost every single character. Infinites that are breakable if you still have any breakers. I dont mean a cheap BRC Infinity. just to name a few people that also have excellent combos.... over 100% without them having a weapon on....
Shujinko: 175 has higher
Darrius: 120
Li Mei: 126 has much higher
Sindel: 106 also has much higher
Bo Rai Cho: 98
Ermac: 95
Ashrah: 115
Kabal: 100+
Jade: 95
Kira: 85
Liu kang: 90
Sub Zero: 55
I know mileena baraka subZero Nightwolf and maybe 1 or 2 others dont have combos over 80% at least i have not done so yet. dude i can keep going on. i have a consistent Shujinko 90% that i can pull off about 75% of the time. My capture... Proof... http://sesstreets.com/uploader/files/5/Quest2be1_Shujinko_15hits_89%.mpg
@everyone else
I also think cheap is mistaken for people learning how to win. Its all about stratagy. Pokes are very useful
and so is down+B. Helps open up for a good combo. to answer the question... Kobra is good also sucks. Just need to know how to play with him well and you can own. however i am not good with kobra nor do i care to fight with him or Kenshi. Just boring characters for me. My least fav overall has to be Hotaru. I know i might get flamed for that one. but i just dont like Hotaru at all. Soooo boring but doesnt mean he is the weakest b/c he definately isnt. so really i dont know who is my least fav character or worst character.
ChiefThunder
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Off Topic: pheonix was banned about a month ago, dude.
So I'm afraid that the first part of your post will never be seen by him.
So I'm afraid that the first part of your post will never be seen by him.
Vigilante_FireDragon
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I have to disagree on that one! Every characters has their strengths and weaknesses.
To Angel:
The number on the character select screen doesn't show level of characters of power, but shows the difficulty of how long does it take to master the characters' styles and moves and plus, how cheezy can the character can be used and how well can you do the combos. For Kobra and Hotaru, their difficulty is 1. That means that they are easy and cheap characters because of their cheap specials, and easy combos. I'm trying to say is that the higher the character's difficulty level, the harder it is to master.
To Angel:
The number on the character select screen doesn't show level of characters of power, but shows the difficulty of how long does it take to master the characters' styles and moves and plus, how cheezy can the character can be used and how well can you do the combos. For Kobra and Hotaru, their difficulty is 1. That means that they are easy and cheap characters because of their cheap specials, and easy combos. I'm trying to say is that the higher the character's difficulty level, the harder it is to master.
Sub-Zero's Soul
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Gordonut said:
The only reason ppl like Mileena is because of her looks. Geez, I'm feeling sweaty just typing about it. 8) Or is it just coz of the 29degrees temperature?