Ideas for MK11
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Noob-Zer013
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No, Leatherface was actually requested a lot on twitter and I'm sure some other places. I've seen a lot of it on twitter since MKX was first being announced and onward. Only 2% of trmk wanted him, doesn't mean the rest of the internet didn't.
A new movie coming out could be a factor as you said. It could also be a tribute to Gunnar Hansen. But you're wrong saying no one requested him. Plenty enough did for him to end up as dlc.
Which, by the way, is going to be great. So hyped for the stream today.
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Commander
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That's my guess (the new movie coming out).
As much as I usually don't care for guests, Freddy vs Jason (much like AvP) in MKX would have sold like hotcakes.
Leatherface seems to have annoyed more people that it pleased, according to the comments from people when KP2 was announced.
When KP2 was announced, most people (like me) didn't want 2 more guests, and those that did didn't want Leatherface (according to YouTube comments and MK facebook comments).
Noob-Zer013
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Those youtube and facebook comments don't change the amount of people that actually did want him. Granted, there's plenty of people who didn't want him. Jason seemed to have a growing affect on people. He was highly requested, pissed other people off but I think his popularity even grew after release, dispite the amount of backlash he got.
Luckily for me, I'm among those very pleased with Leatherface. But witn DLC, just in general, no matter who is pleased, its going to displease another group and visa versa. But what's interesting is how these choices become more accepted after release.
No one would of guessed Bo Rai' Cho. He seems like a wild card among the MK character dlc choices. I think its cool that NRS makes choices out of what people want, and also, what they'd like to do. Because, as its been proven, people come to accept characters they are disappointed with after release. Their popularity only grows. I think they took that in consideration with Bo. Sometimes, people don't know what they want. I saw a lot of backlash on Bo, but more and more, that backlash its reduced with people actually accepting it.
Commander
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There are a slew of people that over-all have a mixed bag of feelings (mostly hate) towards Kombat Pack 2.
Some of them hate Alien, some of them hate Bo Rai Cho and some of them hate Leatherface.
From the MK FB page, when KP2 was announced........
169 people agreed with him
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10 people agreed with him
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As for YouTube people hating on KP2 for the most part this was about 85% of the posts (hating or making fun of KP2), with another 10% being pissed off PC people and another 5% or so being actual praise for KP2...........
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My personal favorite.
Unfortunately, I have to quote all of these too because otherwise someone on this thread will be like "Commander is just making stuff up, and people love KP2." in an effort to try to make me look bad.
These are also likely a mixed bad of casuals and hardcore fans, the same group of fans who make up most of the MK purchases.
Some of them hate Alien, some of them hate Bo Rai Cho and some of them hate Leatherface.
From the MK FB page, when KP2 was announced........
169 people agreed with him
Right below that:
10 people agreed with him
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As for YouTube people hating on KP2 for the most part this was about 85% of the posts (hating or making fun of KP2), with another 10% being pissed off PC people and another 5% or so being actual praise for KP2...........
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My personal favorite.
50% of Mortal Kombat DLC charters are movie charters. What a waste of space.
Unfortunately, I have to quote all of these too because otherwise someone on this thread will be like "Commander is just making stuff up, and people love KP2." in an effort to try to make me look bad.
These are also likely a mixed bad of casuals and hardcore fans, the same group of fans who make up most of the MK purchases.
vetalfox
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Bo Rai Cho and Leather Face are 2 sides of the same issue - not so many die hard MK fans want Bo Rai Cho, no casuals want him, not so many casuals want Leather face (they want Freddy more, by obvious reasons), no die hard MK fans want him. There so many characters who are more accepted by both die hards and casuals, that these choices looks confusing to say the least.
And no, fans do not accept Bo Rai Cho just because they became less vocal, they simply have no interest to talk about him whatsoever.
If anything, people asked for Fujin and Freddy to be included, not these 2
And no, fans do not accept Bo Rai Cho just because they became less vocal, they simply have no interest to talk about him whatsoever.
If anything, people asked for Fujin and Freddy to be included, not these 2
NathanCorsini
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I also doubt we will ever see Drahmin, Motaro or Nitara. For Tremor, no reason, i like him and he could be swapped with Smoke or even Nightwolf without any problem. For Takeda, no, i really hated him. He's too Naruto-ish for my likes, despite too much Scorpion inspired moves.
Noob-Zer013
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[MENTION=5028]Commander[/MENTION]
That wasn't nessesary. I know most people hated KP2.
My point was, that these guests were requested enough to be considered, and obviously were. That's it.
That wasn't nessesary. I know most people hated KP2.
My point was, that these guests were requested enough to be considered, and obviously were. That's it.
NathanCorsini
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I doubt it too, but as you said, it could very much explored.
Commander
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Jason, Predator & Tremor, all highly requested.
Tanya, requested by a vocal minority.
The same goes with KP2.
Cyborgs (Cyrax, Sektor, Smoke) and Alien for DLC, highly requested.
Bo Rai Cho and Leatherface, requested by a vocal minority.
My point was that NRS doesn't always put in highly requested characters for MKX DLC.
Jason, Predator, Alien, Tremor, Tri-Borg = non-risk DLC, since lots of people wanted them.
Leatherface, Tanya, Bo Rai Cho = high-risk DLC, since many don't care for their inclusion or like them.
Tanya, requested by a vocal minority.
The same goes with KP2.
Cyborgs (Cyrax, Sektor, Smoke) and Alien for DLC, highly requested.
Bo Rai Cho and Leatherface, requested by a vocal minority.
My point was that NRS doesn't always put in highly requested characters for MKX DLC.
Jason, Predator, Alien, Tremor, Tri-Borg = non-risk DLC, since lots of people wanted them.
Leatherface, Tanya, Bo Rai Cho = high-risk DLC, since many don't care for their inclusion or like them.
Noob-Zer013
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That's also what I was saying. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes :lol:
I feel NRS should take more risks in my opinion.
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Commander
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As do I. :-D
As much as I don't personally care for Leatherface, I'm happy for those fans that wanted him in and are getting him.
I wish I could say the same for Fujin, but it looks like I'll have to wait longer (2019 or 2020) for any hopes of seeing him in an MK game.
As for Bo:
While I may or may not get him (depending on whether or not he has a more serious variation or not), I hope that he sells well, for the sake of more post-MK3 characters making the main roster or being DLC in future MK games.
Noob-Zer013
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I wasn't really expecting him nor counting on him making it. It didn't even cross my mind. When I saw people requesting him, I thought, "get real". Even when I saw the trailer, I was in a cross of, "not another guest". that quickly turned to "buuuut its fvcking Leatherface." I understand not everyone likes it. But its hilarious to me when people (not you, you're a rare breed) are offended by my satisfaction :lol:
When MK11 gets closer, I'll support Fujin's return as a playable character since he's out of luck now. But he's not the first or only character I'll be requesting.
At first, I wasn't all about Bo Rai' Cho silliness. But after I saw him, and his enhanced attack where he shits on the opponents face WtF? :laugh:
I warmed up to the idea. He looks fun to play as and he's another comical character like Johnny Cage. Johnny was well done I thought. It wasn't completely outlandish to where it ruins the game. So, with keeping that in mind, that gets me excited for Bo. One more comical character won't hurt, in my opinion. I personally wouldn't worry about the variations. His fart/puke focussed variation is probably the only one that fully highlights that aspect of the character.
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Vigilante_FireDragon
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I might play Bo Rai Cho a bit online just for lols and to shit on those who don't like him. I'm glad he's getting love, especially we very much needed post-UMK3 kombatants in the line anyways. I maybe way off on Bo's variation names and, but here it goes:
1)Drunken Master-Gains evasive attacks and empowered Flip Attack. Besides gaining more variant attacks and combo, he also can use a much powerful forward flip attack and gains an drinking special, in which it increases damage up to 3 times per match on any variation-specific combo.
2)Jojutsu-Gains short staff attacks. Universal specials are the same, but gains different attacks and some combo enders utilizing the short staff.
3)Vulgarous-Grants empowered Puke and gains questionable combo enders. The range and stun duration of Puke increases and gains a couple variation-specific combo enders that causes a hard-knockdown or hitstun.
Back on MKXI topic, I hope they introduce a couple of new neutral/evil characters that rival, or are total opposites of the 4 main heroes introduced in X. Sorta like a anti-hero squad formed either in Outworld by Kotal Kahn (with Reptile/Syzoth as the squad watcher) or in the Netherrealm by the newly crowned Dark Emperor Liu Kang (with either Stryker or Kung Lao as the team's overseer).
And also Raiden forming his own hit squad (consisting of both old and new kombatants) to eliminate all those who would and/or will harm Earthrealm (either by outside forces or from within), regardless of any reason.
1)Drunken Master-Gains evasive attacks and empowered Flip Attack. Besides gaining more variant attacks and combo, he also can use a much powerful forward flip attack and gains an drinking special, in which it increases damage up to 3 times per match on any variation-specific combo.
2)Jojutsu-Gains short staff attacks. Universal specials are the same, but gains different attacks and some combo enders utilizing the short staff.
3)Vulgarous-Grants empowered Puke and gains questionable combo enders. The range and stun duration of Puke increases and gains a couple variation-specific combo enders that causes a hard-knockdown or hitstun.
Back on MKXI topic, I hope they introduce a couple of new neutral/evil characters that rival, or are total opposites of the 4 main heroes introduced in X. Sorta like a anti-hero squad formed either in Outworld by Kotal Kahn (with Reptile/Syzoth as the squad watcher) or in the Netherrealm by the newly crowned Dark Emperor Liu Kang (with either Stryker or Kung Lao as the team's overseer).
And also Raiden forming his own hit squad (consisting of both old and new kombatants) to eliminate all those who would and/or will harm Earthrealm (either by outside forces or from within), regardless of any reason.
vetalfox
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New characters:
1) Sorceress, maybe Vorpax looks like - since Tsung and Quan both dead, MK need someone new
2) Oni fighter - scary mask and all the stuff, both Moloch and Drahmin failed short, but theme itself is a good one
3) Vampire lady - make her elegant, sexy, in red and black, not scary (until fatalities anyway) or ugly
4) Great Kung Lao - it's been years of teasing and talking about him in comics and TVs, why not finally make him into a character, he can be corrupted or used on Raiden's side, but he will give more retro and continuation feel for sure
1) Sorceress, maybe Vorpax looks like - since Tsung and Quan both dead, MK need someone new
2) Oni fighter - scary mask and all the stuff, both Moloch and Drahmin failed short, but theme itself is a good one
3) Vampire lady - make her elegant, sexy, in red and black, not scary (until fatalities anyway) or ugly
4) Great Kung Lao - it's been years of teasing and talking about him in comics and TVs, why not finally make him into a character, he can be corrupted or used on Raiden's side, but he will give more retro and continuation feel for sure
nightbreed_16
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The best idea I could come up with is 32-36 characters for the base game and 8 DLC and make them only MK characters. I hope to god Fujin, Sareena, Li Mei and Frost are playable in MK11.
Nasty_Freak
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This would be my perfect roster.
Looks good. It'd be perfect if...
Kabal is replaced with Takeda.
Cyrax is replaced w/ Triborg.
Sheeva is replaced w/ Li Mei.
Motaro is replaced w/ Onaga.
New Characters:
- The female raptor in Reptile's MKXL ending.
- Kano's Son
Plus 4 more...
1. Belladonna (Thrill Kill character who is a revenant in the Netherrealm.)
2. Tormentor (Thrill Kill character who is a revenant in the Netherrealm.)
3. Guest
4. Guest
Xenon
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gameplay: much less emphasis on coin-flippin' 50/50 bullshit, ggpo on release instead of patch, if variations come back then they need a serious rework as it's still pretty much a tier-list flowchart, with clearly superior and useless variations still in game. females shouldn't have smaller hitboxes just because. stop releasing op dlc characters for a quick $$$, only then to nerf them into the ground. the krypt should have something better to offer other than the constant spam of concept art.
ui design: drop the "modern" "simplistic" white on black design. where is the colour?
graphics: they need to switch engines already because good god it looks like shit compared to the games released today...it really, really does. unreal 3 can only be pushed so far. the lack of colour is balls...mortal kombat was never a "dark, realistic, desaturated" game, it was colourful with some realism elements.
fatalities: much more emphasis on detail. right now it's mostly about slicing perfectly, ripping something out effortlessly, and mkx newest edition is blowing a hole in someone. compare this to "here's johnny!" .
brutalities: the more i look at them now, the more they suck. it's basically a mini-fatality with no fancy camera work, and most of them are very repetitive. i'd actually prefer classic-style brutalities, aka beat someone so bad they explode, but maybe with some variations so it wouldn't get boring fast. the current brutalities don't really bring hype in matches either, the kung-lao's ip man brutality got so overused it's simply lame & annoying now. their requirement is pretty lame, if i know the button combination why should i need to run through some checklist in order to pull it off?
friendships: with higher detailed gore, it's obvious a group of small but very vocal professional victims will get offended by it. queue in friendships because they have no friends irl and for some comic relief.
characters: as noted before, there shouldn't be a hitbox advantage just because you play a different gender. fck that. hitboxes need to have standard sizes, but if they really wanna go that route then some of these advantages need to come with disadvantages. i'm fine with new characters added to the roster as nrs demonstrated they know their stuff. as for the characters i'd like to see back: noob saibot, scorpion, tremor, kotal kahn, goro, sektor and jade. speaking of jade, she should keep her muscle tone, proportions and costume from mk9 just to piss sjw's off this time. screw guest characters in dlc.
sound: the effects are top notch as usual, but the music needs more aggression and less "epic orchestra".
ui design: drop the "modern" "simplistic" white on black design. where is the colour?
graphics: they need to switch engines already because good god it looks like shit compared to the games released today...it really, really does. unreal 3 can only be pushed so far. the lack of colour is balls...mortal kombat was never a "dark, realistic, desaturated" game, it was colourful with some realism elements.
fatalities: much more emphasis on detail. right now it's mostly about slicing perfectly, ripping something out effortlessly, and mkx newest edition is blowing a hole in someone. compare this to "here's johnny!" .
brutalities: the more i look at them now, the more they suck. it's basically a mini-fatality with no fancy camera work, and most of them are very repetitive. i'd actually prefer classic-style brutalities, aka beat someone so bad they explode, but maybe with some variations so it wouldn't get boring fast. the current brutalities don't really bring hype in matches either, the kung-lao's ip man brutality got so overused it's simply lame & annoying now. their requirement is pretty lame, if i know the button combination why should i need to run through some checklist in order to pull it off?
friendships: with higher detailed gore, it's obvious a group of small but very vocal professional victims will get offended by it. queue in friendships because they have no friends irl and for some comic relief.
characters: as noted before, there shouldn't be a hitbox advantage just because you play a different gender. fck that. hitboxes need to have standard sizes, but if they really wanna go that route then some of these advantages need to come with disadvantages. i'm fine with new characters added to the roster as nrs demonstrated they know their stuff. as for the characters i'd like to see back: noob saibot, scorpion, tremor, kotal kahn, goro, sektor and jade. speaking of jade, she should keep her muscle tone, proportions and costume from mk9 just to piss sjw's off this time. screw guest characters in dlc.
sound: the effects are top notch as usual, but the music needs more aggression and less "epic orchestra".