PC version of Mortal Kombat 9...

People please. Calm down. The game comes out in a week. People aren't making a big deal out of it because it's a 2 year old game. We know it's the first game to come to PC since MK4 but that clearly isn't a big deal to most people out there. Not to mention, it's an Unreal Engine game, it'd be pretty hard to mess it up.

Be patient and it'll be here before you know it. If you insist on reading/watching a review before buying it, wait a couple days after it releases and I'm sure there'll be reviews up. It's been said many times that there are a lot of games that just turn up on Steam on the day of release. This looks like it's gonna be one of them. Sure I'd like it if they made more of a fuss over it, but it doesn't look like they are going to.
 
blesner said:
Dude... Steam rocks.

Valve actually made DRM palatable and...cool. TBH if a game I buy retail does not have Steam activation, it is almost a deal breaker.
I enjoy having all my games on one user friendly client.

Trust me mate, it will grow on you.



I do not think it will come. Checked my billing history and there was no MKAE available for pre order.

Also see that Joe Danger 1+2 is up for sale on Steam never had any pre order option.
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Steam "rocks" is just your opinion, dude. Hate to be an ideology breaker, but honestly I despise this DRM platform and every such idea that existed, ever. Also, where you will not buy a game without Steam - I will not buy one that makes me install this crap.
Also to the other comment out there - > MK9 digital release is a steam exclusive, not the whole game. ( whole game being equal to both digital and retail releases, as to retail might not ( fingers crossed ) require the installation of Steamworks. )
 
Ultramarine said:
Steam "rocks" is just your opinion, dude. Hate to be an ideology breaker, but honestly I despise this DRM platform and every such idea that existed, ever. Also, where you will not buy a game without Steam - I will not buy one that makes me install this crap.
Also to the other comment out there - > MK9 digital release is a steam exclusive, not the whole game. ( whole game being equal to both digital and retail releases, as to retail might not ( fingers crossed ) require the installation of Steamworks. )
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Here's hoping for your sake the retail is also steamworks so you can activate it through Steam.
 
Ultramarine said:
Steam "rocks" is just your opinion, dude. Hate to be an ideology breaker, but honestly I despise this DRM platform and every such idea that existed, ever. Also, where you will not buy a game without Steam - I will not buy one that makes me install this crap.
Also to the other comment out there - > MK9 digital release is a steam exclusive, not the whole game. ( whole game being equal to both digital and retail releases, as to retail might not ( fingers crossed ) require the installation of Steamworks. )
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Correct, just as you think it is cr@p is yours. Some will agree, some will disagree...and blah blah blah
Hated Steam with a passion years ago but I really grew to love it. With the community, deals, Instant game updates, responsiveness, etc, I can not game without it.

Thank your lucky stars, We could of been stuck with GFWL.
 
Ultramarine said:
Steam "rocks" is just your opinion, dude. Hate to be an ideology breaker, but honestly I despise this DRM platform and every such idea that existed, ever. Also, where you will not buy a game without Steam - I will not buy one that makes me install this crap.
Also to the other comment out there - > MK9 digital release is a steam exclusive, not the whole game. ( whole game being equal to both digital and retail releases, as to retail might not ( fingers crossed ) require the installation of Steamworks. )
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It's been well established that the game will implement Steamworks. Why do you even consider that digital will differ from the retail version in that aspect?

I'd prefer to not have to install Steam as well, if I could, but as Blesner pointed out - we could have had GFWL. Now THAT is something you wouldn't want on your PC, ever.

Also, is that you, "toasty"? Hardwarebg forum?
 
ionicle said:
It's been well established that the game will implement Steamworks. Why do you even consider that digital will differ from the retail version in that aspect?

I'd prefer to not have to install Steam as well, if I could, but as Blesner pointed out - we could have had GFWL. Now THAT is something you wouldn't want on your PC, ever.

Also, is that you, "toasty"? Hardwarebg forum?
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Again - wrong. The digital version of the game will implement Steamworks. To be precise, nothing about the 3rd party DRM on the retail version has been revealed yet. I consider it, because i've read all there is on this topic and to say the least - no official information has been leaked on the topic. If it is so, why isnt it confirmed as digital/retail using steamworks ? And why the 1 month difference, if not to promote the steam product for the interested, and then release the "stuff" free product ? That's a speculation, of course- but facts, are facts- no official info on the topic, only the digital one.
Yes, Yes I am. Greetings. Also, I am against GFWL as well. I just dislike Steam even more. I don't want them BOTH on my PC, EVER. I want a clean product - one a fanatic can always bind to his steam, but a customer like me can keep off petty software. Not much to ask, it is now ?
 
I don't get it. The whole point of DRM is to restrict piracy, isn't it? Why would they use it for the digital and not for the retail version?

Regarding facts, news and so on, it's not like we've been bombarded with information so far - no trailer, no publicity, nothing, really. Not just about the retail version - it's like Boon and his WB comrades don't give a rat's ass about us. Which wouldn't be that big of a surprise at all.

Eh, I guess, we'll live, we'll see.
 
DRM hasn't achieved crap. We all know that, it's a proven fact. I'm just saying - ruin your product with crappy software = lose potential customers. Whereas - release a free product for everyone to manage however he likes ( combine him with such software or not is the customer's decision, because... HE GIVES THE MONEY ) and profit.
 
Are we living under a rock? PC gaming for the past 3 years is safe to say that it's digital market only, with steam and its store, it's one of the easiest way to buy games, not to mention that it has great community-social facebook like thing, own forums, achievements and things like that. Basically it's one place for all games on PC.

And now people say I want a clear game? Alright, but you can't deny the fact that steamworks and steam platform makes things much more easier. Finding friends, making lobbies online, making game groups, talking with people through chat/forums - it's like one platform to rule all games. You just buy, and then you're one of the community, you have rights to get new friends, to talk with them, share, play, have fun.

It's much more better than crappy GFWL, that has MESSAGES, and not instant chat, not to mention horrible support, bad servers and etc. Steam is a garden of happy gameplay, because if support cant help you, then community will do always, as it has over 3 million of accounts.

I just want to say that Steam is not DRM, Steam is a program to have best expirience on a PC possible, making it's like your own console with gallery of games.
But that's offtopic, i mean why would you lose all those great features and have game on a disk, that will be easially hacked in multiplayer, since it wont have any VAC and steamworks features?

MK is going to be released in 1 week, no pre orders, shame, but time is now counting in hours, not days :)

Also retail copy will still have CD key that will need to be activated ON STEAM in order to play it, all steamworks games do that.
 
The game will be pirated WITH or WITHOUT STEAM. Also, I dont deny the stuff Steam offers, I just dont think they are worth it. Also, noone can force me to install software with my game that I clearly do not like. Period. Also, your last sentence is incorrect - I can give you plenty of websites, on which the topic of where the retail version will require steam support has been deemed as "not sure yet". Also, Steam is absolutely DRM. Offtopic, a bit, but we are debating info about the end MK9 product anyway
 
Ultramarine said:
DRM hasn't achieved crap. We all know that, it's a proven fact. I'm just saying - ruin your product with crappy software = lose potential customers. Whereas - release a free product for everyone to manage however he likes ( combine him with such software or not is the customer's decision, because... HE GIVES THE MONEY ) and profit.
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The customer gives the money, but it's not the customer that decides that (rofl). And the majority of the customers LIKE Steam and what it has to offer. You do the math.

Noone can force you to install anything you don't want, I'll give you that much, but what are you gonna do if the game's got DRM, and once it's cracked, it just doesn't offer any credible option for multiplayer? Sure, you'll install it, you're gonna play, but the most essential bit will be inaccessible to you: do you really prefer to play the game in such a crippled fashion, instead of benefiting from its full potential?

Question is: is your hatred for DRM and Steam in particular greater than your infatuation with the game we've all been expecting to see on the PC for the past 15 years?
 
Yes, Yes it is. I've bypassed enough of Steam product so far, just to show the devs my thoughts on their product. As long as I give my money on something, I decide what is it going to be. Geez, what are you, borrowing cash from somewhere ? I never said anything about people not liking the platform, its just my view on the topic. What are they losing with a retail version of the game with nothing attached to it ? People who like Steam can always attach the game to Steam later and "benefit" again, so what's the problem ??
 
You're somehow interpreting my statement wrong here. I don't encourage DRMs and Steam, I'm simply stating the obvious - the majority of the customers are what sways the odds in favor of the sort of protection the developer will put in place.

The devs and the publisher just don't care if you, or I, approve of Steam, if the majority of people do. That's it. Your standing on principle will ultimately bring you nothing but the satisfaction that you haven't breached your precious ideals. You're a lone crusader fighting for a lost cause. We don't make the decisions about a game, the ones that bring it to life do. We may choose to support or not support the finished product, but in the grand scheme of things, one potential customer disapproving of a certain aspect of the game is just dust in the wind.
 
A'right. I'm fond of crusaders anyway :). But developers who don't care about their customers don't last long. Also, I will say this once again, i'm not AGAINST STEAM, I'm against FORCING ME to install it. Why lose easy money then ? They can do it free and people can later add it on steam or just buy the digital one? To me it doesn't seem like something hard, but like something that will be crucial on the final decision of me giving my money to them or not.
 
The retail version of MK9 will be Steamworks, I'm 100% sure of that. And if not you'll gain nothing: let's face it, there will be DRM on the disk and you end up in a worse situation than Steam DRM even if it's just a simple disk check.

As for Steam itself: I hated the thing in the Half-Life 2 days, it was nothing more than a bad DRM software at the time but there have been many improvements after that and just like blesner said it really grows on you and you just start to like it. No reason to hate it now, it's a software that has absolutely no negative effect on your machine's performance for example. You are "forced" to install it just like you're "forced" to install your GPU drivers, WinRAR or your firewall software, it's just mandatory these days, one of the bare minimum of softwares a PC gamer has to install in order to have a good experience.

Anyway if you don't want to install it there's GOG as an option but you'll never play Mortal Kombat that way. I love GOG but their library of new games is just not up to par with Steam.
 
That's the one thing that most people who say GoG is an alternative fail to realize. That their selection of newer titles isn't nearly as large as Steam. Of course some people dislike newer titles and would rather just repurchase and replay the same old games over and over. I have a laundry list of old games that I sometimes play but I want new games too and GoG doesn't have very many.

Also, to anyone saying one can just add their non-steam games to steam. That doesn't really do much except use Steam as a launcher and give you the Steam overlay. It doesn't keep track of hours, give achievements, etc. It's not quite at the same level of integration in other words. To me that's just superflous launching.

Also, I wouldn't go so far as to say that Valve or the studios that release games on Steam don't care about the customer. That's projecting stuff onto them that is probably not there. If anything I'd say Valve cares more about PC Gaming and its customers than Microsoft does at this point. Microsoft does everything in its power short of discontinuing Windows to leverage their console business and keep the PC down. Valve on the other hand continuously improve Steam including bringing it to non Windows personal computer platforms such as Linux and Mac. DRM ideology aside most of what they've done was good for the PC platform.
 
ZaxxerDog said:
You are "forced" to install it just like you're "forced" to install your GPU drivers, WinRAR or your firewall software, it's just mandatory these days, one of the bare minimum of softwares a PC gamer has to install in order to have a good experience.
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You can do pretty well without a firewall. I don't have an antivirus app and/or firewall installed and I don't care for those. But I definitely watch my step around the Web, that's for sure, and do manual observation over my machine. It certainly isn't for everyone.
 
That's the one thing that most people who say GoG is an alternative fail to realize. That their selection of newer titles isn't nearly as large as Steam. Of course some people dislike newer titles and would rather just repurchase and replay the same old games over and over. I have a laundry list of old games that I sometimes play but I want new games too and GoG doesn't have very many.
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Yes, that's the sad truth, however it is wise to keep in mind that in terms of freedom and extra content GOG is the best, no question about that. I really appreciate what CD Projekt did with the Witcher series too: if you buy the Witcher games on Steam you can activate your copy on GOG too so you'll get a DRM free copy and a load of extras.
 
@ZaxxxerDog - I like it how you are 100 % sure of something, that isnt yet confirmed by the developers or publishers. :)
PS: What I will gain ? No steamworks on retail = me giving money to high voltage studios. They will gain my money, isnt it what this is all about in the end ? Also the comparison with steam and GPU drivers was waay off and inaccurate.
PPS : Mandatory ? You make me install crappy software - I don't buy your products. This is how it works with me. It will cost them literally nothing to release a steam/gfwl free retail copy of the game and that's what i am counting on, if I am to give my money. It is but a simple request.
 
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