what makes the pro players?

What kind of a player are you?

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Dedamn666

Dedamn666

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I dont know what its been like round the rest of the world but over the past few days ive all of a sudden started facing (compared to before) i have faced alot of Shang Tsungs. This only seems to be after another web site ( strictly for pros so i am told) posted an article and a video about how awesome Shang Tsung is and has the potential to be. The same in the UK for Scorpion again since someone won a tournament using him. ( i know scorpions used alot but i hadn't seen many use him for a while). Im not sure but it seems like alot of folk will only play only who the pros deem fit to use for wins, certain trends of characters seem to go around and come around because of some article, video or post on the internet or indeed which character was used to win the last tournament.

It seems like a breed of elitist pseudo pros have been born, aimlessly counting frames and sticking to the tier lists for a win loss record online. In my opinion i think this is pretty pointless if your not playing for prizes or money. I think there's a majority who have sadly forgotten that for most people it is just a game.

Ive also seemed to notice numbers online dwindling some part no doubt due to the fact the game is no longer flavour of the month to some folks, but i honestly think alot of people have been put off by the hugely arrogant and rude attitudes of most mortal kombat players online ( i can be guilty of this at time) and basic rapings of newbies by the closest you can get to a seasoned veteran on the game.

I think its a bit puzzling what makes different players tick, how they find time or motivate themselves to become better than most, whether it be for a in loss record online, tournie etc.

Im not trying to have a go at one group or another but we hear enough on so called noobs and scrubs, spammers etc i think it would be good to hear what people think of the folk who act like pros or actually are pros and some insight from the folk just mentioned
 
I don't like people who follow tier lists strictly. I like people who can stay true to 2 or three characters regardless or buffs or nerfs. Those are the real pros to me and i truly respect them.
 
A pro is some one that studies all aspects of the game and uses the character with the most pros vs cons giving the most opportunity to win hence why we are seeing a lot of kung lao. Another good example is daigo switching from ryu to yun in AE. Also great execution and a sharp mind help.
 
If you use a character only because he's the flavor of the month, you suck. Plain and simple.
 
I'm just one of those who play the damn game for fun. I love MK, but It's just a videogame. I don't even know what category I am (not pro, for sure), not that I care.
I don't care about tier lists
I don't care about winning or losing
I don't care about tourneys

I just enjoy the game :)
 
I'm not a pro, but I guess I'm better than most casuals:

- I'm 625/129 in KOTH.
- My highest streak in a single KOTH room is 47 (currently 45th on the Xbox 360 leaderboards), 60 carried over.
- I'm 420/247 in Ranked and 2,525/672 in 1-on-1 (this is actually closer to 1100+/200+ in Player Match).

That all being said, I personally play to better myself. I mainly focus on four characters (Kano, Quan Chi, Sonya and Stryker), and I'm constantly using my worst (Sonya), even in Ranked. It's not about the win for me, rather the fight itself. Whether I win or lose, I want to learn from it. I also want my opponent to wow me. On the side, I try to give tips to those who don't play very smart (i.e., when they blow their meter on an X-Ray with less than 10% health while I still have over 60% of mine or when they use a breaker on a weak combo despite my having a huge life lead). The problem with the MK community now is that it's torn between casual and hardcore players, and there's plenty of saltiness from both sides.
 
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Jason Shearer said:
I'm not a pro, but I guess I'm better than most casuals:

- I'm 625/129 in KOTH.
- My highest streak in a single KOTH room is 47 (currently 45th on the Xbox 360 leaderboards), 60 carried over.
- I'm 420/247 in Ranked and 2,525/672 in 1-on-1 (this is actually closer to 1100+/200+ in Player Match).

That all being said, I personally play to better myself. I mainly focus on four characters (Kano, Quan Chi, Sonya and Stryker), and I'm constantly using my worst (Sonya), even in Ranked. It's not about the win for me, rather the fight itself. Whether I win or lose, I want to learn from it. I also want my opponent to wow me. On the side, I try to give tips to those who don't play very smart (i.e., when they blow their meter on an X-Ray with less than 10% health while I still have over 60% of mine or when they use a breaker on a weak combo despite my having a huge life lead). The problem with the MK community now is that it's torn between casual and hardcore players, and there's plenty of saltiness from both sides.
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Personally I think stats mean nothing. I have 800 wins and 900 losses yet I've beaten people with far superior stats and rightly so. I'm no slouch, and while my stats reflect an average score I attribute this to actively seekinhg out good players. I accept challenges from anyone but if that person sucks I'll quit after crushing them 2 or 3 times, yet I'll play endless amount of games against a good player, whether I win or lose. Played some guy called Phillys Finest. He has 5000 wins and 800 losses. I've beaten hom quite a lot and I have no idea how his stats are that good. Maybe he trolls in the beginner lobbys.
 
Stats don't mean anything. When have you ever seen me post my record? Never. It's a very good record, but it doesn't mean shit. Numbers, don't help you in a fight.
 
I think a pro is someone that understands the ins and outs of every character to know the best possibilities and do no wasted moves. They may not master every character, but they are able to recognize bnb kombos and more. Oh, and if they are pro they are making some money by playing ;)
 
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Personally I think stats mean nothing. I have 800 wins and 900 losses yet I've beaten people with far superior stats and rightly so. I'm no slouch, and while my stats reflect an average score I attribute this to actively seekinhg out good players. I accept challenges from anyone but if that person sucks I'll quit after crushing them 2 or 3 times, yet I'll play endless amount of games against a good player, whether I win or lose. Played some guy called Phillys Finest. He has 5000 wins and 800 losses. I've beaten hom quite a lot and I have no idea how his stats are that good. Maybe he trolls in the beginner lobbys.
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DCP said:
Stats don't mean anything. When have you ever seen me post my record? Never. It's a very good record, but it doesn't mean shit. Numbers, don't help you in a fight.
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@Flagg: I've played a person or two in Ranked with an insane record like that and I beat them easily as well. I'm not sure what they're doing to get such a record, but there's definitely something shady about it.

@DCP: I've never seen you post your record, but you've never seen me throw a tantrum when people disagree with me, either. ;)

You both completely missed my point. I wasn't insinuating anything by posting mine. In other words, regardless of how seemingly better I am over most players, I don't play to win nor do I play for stats. I play to better my capabilities as a gamer. I'm not a pro, more than a casual, and definitely not an elitist.
 
What makes a pro is time, patience, and dedication!

What sucks is that I'm the kind of player who always picks a fighter purely out of interest, and then finds out they're super low tier fighters based on "professionals", but I still manage to beat a majority of good fighters.

As an example, when I first picked up SSF4 I decided to pick Sakura as my main because I played her a lot in previous games like MvC2 and whatnot, where she was still considered low-tier but I mean hey, if I can get good no one will estimate much and I can ass kicking a little more sweet. I was upset to realize later she was just a weak but fast version of Ryu/Ken, with a VERY LOW stamina ranking.

What this means is no matter how many times I pull off a combo and find a break in my opponents defenses, any fights against Ryu/Ken (the most populous fighters) will turn into a slap fight of me dropping them down to the tip slowly, and then having the tables turn and getting beat down in a matter of seconds by a few shoryukens or low heavies I happened to miss by accident.

I still pursue getting better, because with competitive fighting games, what else would you do?

In tournaments, fighting seems to be just exploiting the bare minimum balancing in the games, like just turtling against someone who doesn't do well against defense, or going in to projectile fights because keeping distance=total pro yo.
 
By your definitioin I'm a "Pro"

By my definition a Pro is someone who has atleast a % chance to win EVO. Which I don't think I'm at yet...

but I do go to tournaments and try to win. I have played 2 local ones and won them both... but that isn't "Pro" status IMO

I need to take games off the top 16 of EVO to feel like a True Pro.

Because Pro in my eyes are the people who are likely to be in the money at major tournaments that actually have alot of cash to give out.


A Pro is someone who isn't afraid to lose during training periods.

A Pro can deal with pressure and think of alternate ways of playing to adapt to a strategy theya re having problems with on the fly.

A Pro Has a giant complex web of paths they know certain scenarios can take. They have probably took 1 move... and tested it against EVERY move their main has to see properties of specific actions to know the best course of action..

Ever notice ALOT of stuff we see that may be "new" tends to be exploited by a great player? I don't mean combos.. I mean tricks/traps/mindgames. this tends to be the case because they are more likely to explore FURTHTER than the average player who plays 3-4 hours a day.

Pros tend to spend about as much time playing MK a day as you would at a job.


Nothing wrong with someone changing their main to a bigger tier character... AS long as it actually DOES help them win. But the problem with these players is... once things are set in stone. And lets say Some mid tier character like Jade becomes top tier.... he'll never be able to catch up to the Jade's that have been sticking to their guns since day one.

There is a limit to how much you can "switch to the most hated character of the season" Before it catches up to you. and you spread out your dedication to too many mains and now you're left behind.

"I think Tom Brady doing his guide and learning EVERY character is probably doing this exact result to him"
 
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I'm the type of guy thats addicted to learning every person. I don't care about winning and losing I just play to try to see if I can pull off a combo or help someone learn the game better. I have played some pros that ripped me to shreds but I have also worked out on some pros myself...I'm just a casual player that loves the game
 
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