So will they have anamality and brutality?
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Grotesque
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It would be beyond dissapointing to not make use of the awesome X-Ray system and include Brutalities yet include these lame ass babalities that no one wanted in a mk game again ever since MK2,i would really start to ask myself what were they thinking considering this and the recent clown fatality (just lol).
Albo
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well the guy doing the live stream got the comple-iality achievement which is doing every type of ality, and he had only done babalities and fatalities so i doubt brutalities are in the game. the same goes for animalities. friendships on the other hand may or may not be in none of us know. babalities were awesoem btw especially noobs!
Grotesque
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After watching a few of them i do agree that they at least put some effort in it, however i absolutely hate them..babalities aren't what made MK2 brilliant, the atmosphere and serious tone that game had was diminished when i saw the first babality even as a kid.Remove all the lame jokes and "humour" this franchise ever implemented (babalities, friendships(a combination of fatality+friendship would be a lot better) trilogy 1000 body parts from a single corpse, floating hands (don't tell me those weren't implemented on purpose)mk4 endings, mokap etc) implement a proper fighting engine and you got a much better game that takes itself and is looked upon by others in a lot more serious fashion.
Whoever thinks babalities should be in this game over brutalities will all the potential they had (x-ray, the graphic engine) is a dumbass.
Albo
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NR aim with making the game was to have a proper fighting game with tournament level gameplay while at the same time be like the classic mks. babalities were part of classic mk and in your opinion you dont like them, but im sure many others feel differently. with brutalities in my opinion they would have been just like a beefed up x-ray and i think they would have got very repetitive after a while. also havign babaliteis in the game do not make it less "serious". if anything they entertain the player more by making them laugh and we already have fatalities and xrays to be shocked and disgusted by. if it enteratains the player more then it is considered a more serious fighting game in my opinion.
Grotesque
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I never said they weren't part of the classic games,(right up until now the majority hated babalities and didnt want them implemented, i dont know where you get this "many others feel differently") i said the game would have been better off including something better and more serious like Brutalities or even Animalities(done properly, not the mk3/mkt shit), i wasn't thinking of a beefed up X-Ray, i was thinking of individual fast-paced multi-sequence X-Rays combined with individual special moves and character specific finishing blows, you can use this awesome graphics engine and x-ray mechanic to do something really awesome yet you choose to have someone turned into a freakin baby ? seriously?! every finisher gets old, no matter how badass it is and as to the "doesnt make it less serious" argument..yea it doesn't get more serious than decapitating or slicing your oponent in half just to turn him into a baby the next fight..please.
Why even have a story with these shitty elements in the game ? might aswell just do baby invaders from netherrealm as the main plot.This is what ruins part of the game for me and what has always stopped people from taking this franchise seriously.
This is obviously my oppinion and you should treat it as such.
mcgriffin
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Friendships and babalities are brilliant because so many people LOVE the gore and seriousness in MK. Finishing moves are supposed to enrage and humiliate your opponent, not give them what they want. So you do a friendship. If the person starts complaining, saying how much they hate friendships and how it ruins the mood and yada yada, you do a babality.
Grotesque
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This game stopped being serious since MK2, terrible fatalities, ridiculous plot, finishers that have nothing to do with the character(scorpion turning into a penguin lol), the video endings, i won't even begin to comment on the 3D games..they looked like freaking wrestling games with MK characters and MK2 is considered to be the best game in the franchise by 90% of the fan base, coincidence ? or did they just do everything right with it ? the way MK was supposed to be.Dark, sinister, gritty, amazing atmosphere and music etc etc we all know what made MK2 so great and it sure as hell wasnt the "brilliant" babalities.
Metal Overlord
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YES!
Friendships along with ''Toasty!'' ARE a part of dark humor that MK has. Besides, most people have a tendency to blame friendships/babalities for why UMK3's atmosphere was noticeably less serious than MK2's. Actually, it was UMK3's cheesy-ass fatalities that diluted the ''seriousness''' of MK, not friendships and babalities. Friendships must work in tandem with serious fatalities, like in MK2 and MK9.
Besides, what's wrong with a little comic relief every now and then? If you don't like friendships for their silliness, then you shouldn't like Johnny Cage, either. Keep in mind that when friendships and the like were excluded to make the series' darker, the series went downhill. Now they're back in the new MK, which is better than ever. Just food for thought, eh? :wink:
mcgriffin
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Your argument doesn't make any sense. You sight MK2 as the one that did everything right, but MK2 has babalities and friendships. The gritty, dark atmosphere is why they work. It's called irony.
Grotesque
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While i agree with the UMK3 part it was still a really fun game and had better gameplay than MK2, but saying the exclusion of babalities and friendships were the reason the series went downhill is just..
The series went downhill because of the terrible switch to 3D, horrible characters popping out of nowhere (MK
A,MK,MK:A),boring and unrewarding gameplay,the thinking that adding shitload of content in a game can compensate for the game's MASSIVE flaws and a LOT of other things.The best comparison i can think of right now is with the GoW series, hell the main character from that is in the latest game.That game has a "don't **** with me" attitude and it works perfectly, that's the approach they should have had ever since MK2 with this game, i'm almost certain it would make a lot more people like and respect the game more.
VictorMefer
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In some sound leaks, the announcer said Brutality, maybe we will still see this one. Animalities were not hinted, not even once, from what I know.
Grotesque
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Read my last line and it makes perfect sense, i know it has them..i said they made the game worse in my opinion and i also said it in an earlier post that all these humour elements diminished the serious tone of the game and made me enjoy it less than i did when i didn't know about them.
Ya know..it's like playing a censored version of GoW with Kratos turnin' em into babies.Seriously..what brilliant mind thought of pairing Baby+Fatality thus resulting in a Babality while putting so much effort in making the game so serious and dark, no offense but you have no idea what irony is lol, if you mean dark humour take the joker in TDK as a perfect example, this isn't dark humour, it's just plain dumb..like making fun of your own product.
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Grotesque
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Yea heard it also a while back, unfortunately the finisher slots for most of the characters were all full with the known finishers so i'm thinking it was just an early concept and they scraped it due to the amount of work they had to put in with the brutalities..oh well at least we have babies.I guess that works too with the younger individuals amongst us.
They also always stated that not every finisher would be listed, even after ppl would have found them. They might be secret enough to not be counted in the achievement. Allthough this is just wishfull thinking. I'm beginning to think they aren't in the game since so much has been found allready. But we'll have to wait and see. Still... Most fatalities are brutal as hell anyway... 
Grotesque
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They also always stated that not every finisher would be listed, even after ppl would have found them. They might be secret enough to not be counted in the achievement. Allthough this is just wishfull thinking. I'm beginning to think they aren't in the game since so much has been found allready. But we'll have to wait and see. Still... Most fatalities are brutal as hell anyway...
I wished they were in aswell but it's confirmed more or less due to that guy completing that achievement, wouldnt make sense to not include brutality in the achievement since it clearly ends in a ALITY
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mcgriffin
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Okay, but you're still making my argument for me. The whole point is that you don't like it. I'll do one on you, and you get pissed. You're not supposed to 'like' them. They aren't supposed to fit in. I love fatalities as much as the next guy, but we all look forward to them. If you really want to get under somebody's skin, turn 'em into a baby.
If you don't want to do one, don't. If you don't want them to be done on you, never lose. ;P That simple.
Grotesque
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This is going nowhere, i was talking from a design PoV only, the only reason i'll get mad if a finisher is done on me is because the actual gameplay is getting delayed lol, i NEVER do a finisher in VS play because of the same reason you never see it in competitive play..sure the casuals who might play this game a few hours per week and dont scout the internet to see the fatalities will do them to see what they're like but after doying em once or twice they wont bother with it either.I appreciate them of course because of the thought and effort put in em (some of them are really badass) but they get old since they'll always stay the same.
I don't appreciate babalities and all the other joke elements because they don't fit the majority of the game(which i love) AT ALL, they're not clever (the mk4 endings are so bad they're funny though) dark humour is something else, like the shang tsung clown fatality although it's so terrible designed it DOES fit the mk series.
I guess people are thinking babality is some kind of brilliant idea they had and not just a random dude on the crapper thinking of diapers and fatalities at the same time and going all "EUREKA!1 BABALITY LOLZ" But yeah..try doying this with the GoW series or any other series that takes itself seriously and doesnt make fun of its own product on purpose..i guarantee you there will be blood lol.
